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danielleshomework

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you can't always blame the economy
« on: October 22, 2010, 06:18:26 pm »
I'm getting sick of hearing people complain about not having a job in this economy who have never had a strong work ethic before things went down hill. You can't put the blame on politicians, the economy ect, when you are too lazy to hold a job regardless. just sayin.

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Re: you can't always blame the economy
« Reply #1 on: October 23, 2010, 08:00:53 am »
Well, there are plenty of people who DO want to work, and still can't find a job.

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Re: you can't always blame the economy
« Reply #2 on: October 23, 2010, 02:07:51 pm »
Well, there are plenty of people who DO want to work, and still can't find a job.
Agreed, not to mention other areas might have been hit harder by the sad state of our economy than where the OP lives.  I know where I live in Ohio its next to impossible to find a job even the packaging factory here in town that USED to be known all over the county as quick employment has cut back and only hires a select few.  And its entry lvl positions are like the worse job in the county lol very few last more than a few days there they have huge turnover which is why it was known for its quick employment.  My hubby worked there for 3 years in management until he got his current job.  Which was a stroke of luck lol cause he hated the old company.  But our county has been hit pretty hard by the economy not just jobs but funding for programs and road repairs.  Fusion Cash has been a blessing for us though in these hard times.  I know quite a few people in our county that have been on unemployment for over a year now, sure there a few that are milking it for everything they can and aren't really trying to find work but its not easy here especially if you don't have transportation as its a rural area with no public transportation.  I hope things get better in the foreseeable future but its not looking good.

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Re: you can't always blame the economy
« Reply #3 on: October 29, 2010, 05:42:40 pm »
I'm getting sick of hearing people complain about not having a job in this economy who have never had a strong work ethic before things went down hill. You can't put the blame on politicians, the economy ect, when you are too lazy to hold a job regardless. just sayin.
I think the bigger problem is that most simply pay into SS and then forget about planning for their financial future, leaving their entire future fate up to a government that truely doesn't give to shits about any of us.

I remember my Grandmother speaking of the great depression and stating that as far as her household, they couldnt tell any difference. Of course she was very independant and self sufficient but very lacking in cash or tangible assets except her knowledge of how to survive and provide for her family, as well as a hell of a lot of hard work by every family member.

People today mostly live in or very near the city and have no interest in self sufficiency other then being able to get themselves to the shopping center.

I never rely on anyone else, including the government to provide for me and like my Grandmother, I do not have a lot of material wealth, but honestly other then when buying gas for my vehicles, I don't notice the economy.

Perhaps now more people will take the initiative to make their own investments into their futures and actually set goals toward making sure that they can provide for themselves in hard times rather then relying on Uncle Sam to pick up the slack.

It is still legal to opt out of the social security system and invest your for yourself, however, in doing so you must agree to never seek government assistance for your retirment.

If a person, today, doesn't know how to grow a small food plot, which can even be done in containers in apartments ect, and next year, still doesnt know how.......maybe they need a little motivation that hunger can very easily inspire.

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Re: you can't always blame the economy
« Reply #4 on: October 29, 2010, 11:05:40 pm »
Well, there are plenty of people who DO want to work, and still can't find a job.
I agreed with you too... Not to complaint but most of the jobs out there are hard to find and get.  We can't blame economy, then where is that those pls who really search for jobs for real can isn't find one (I don't talk about those who lazy and not go and look for job).  There are people really searching for jobs and find none.

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Re: you can't always blame the economy
« Reply #5 on: October 30, 2010, 08:46:17 pm »
Can't always blame politicians? Nonsense.
Can't blame only politicians? Okay.

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Re: you can't always blame the economy
« Reply #6 on: November 03, 2010, 07:55:18 pm »
plenty of people need to work....what needs to happen is people need to commit to re-booting and learning a new career.....traininag and colleges are packed....put the training needs to be geared towards the right industries....

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Re: you can't always blame the economy
« Reply #7 on: November 04, 2010, 07:21:29 am »
Thank the Unions.

If pensions and contracts wern't so high and being forced to be bailed out by taxpayers, there'd be more jobs. Why do you think most manufacturing jobs moved out of the country?

Lets just do this hypothetically... If I own a company I can either A: pay union wages and pensions and a high tax rate to create something that has EPA regulations about over it as well as high taxes on the product created or B: pay one flat tax on all of my employees out of the country.

Yeah, I'm going to select B and unfortunatly that's what most companies did. No companies = no jobs.

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Re: you can't always blame the economy
« Reply #8 on: November 04, 2010, 11:37:23 am »
you do still have credited people in this country with degress beyond belife with jobs but still come up short , its just one of things with life

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Re: you can't always blame the economy
« Reply #9 on: November 05, 2010, 06:32:29 am »
I've been reading a lot about econmics lately, and while I'm not an expert by any means, I am seeing a few trends.

College degrees for the past few years have been steadily increasing. Meaning the cost people pay for them continue to go up and yet the jobs that people get salaries are not going up. However; it's such a double edged sword, you can't seem to find a decent job unless A: you have a degree or B: you have some sort of in, like military service, or a security clearance or something that puts you into a specialized niche.

With subsidies and "financial aid" that puts people into debt much beyond what it would require a person to pay for such degree, it's going to become another bubble (college educations that is) that looks like it might burst, much like the housing market. Sally Mae can't continue to afford to provide education and the burst will happen and education costs will drop, like a rock.

I'm not saying this will happen, but I think it potentially could. Also, you don't see people now a days going to say a technical education, say an apprenticeship type program and then go and work in the trade. I think that too is hurting the economy and job market far more than anything else.

So yes, I think in these cases, you can blame the government. A broken window doesn't provide more work and a ditch digger's ditch needs to be filled. Stimulus doesn't work since you're creating money out of thin air and putting such thin air money back into an industry that can't support itself. Spending made up money doesn't work which is why we're still in the same economic situation. Inflation is going to kill us in the long run, why do you think groceries are continually going up in prices.

What I've found to really open my eyes are things like "The Road to Serfdom" by Hayek and other things from Mises. You can read them online for free btw. They really opened me up to other theroys of economics.

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