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walksalone11

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Happy Columbus Day????
« on: October 10, 2010, 06:00:50 pm »
In 1500, Columbus wrote to a friend:

"A hundred castellanoes (a Spanish coin) are as easily obtained for a woman as for a farm, and it is very general and there are plenty of dealers who go about looking for girls; those from nine to ten (years old) are now in demand."

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A substantial amount of the money used by Queen Isabella to finance the explorations of Columbus came from the seizure and sale of properties owned by Spanish Jews and Muslims. On March 30, 1492, she issued an edict demanding that Jews either convert to Catholicism, leave the country, or be executed.


http://www.danielnpaul.com/ChristopherColumbus.html

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Re: Happy Columbus Day????
« Reply #1 on: October 10, 2010, 06:06:08 pm »
Excerpted from the book Indians are Us
(Common Courage Press, 1994)
by Ward Churchill




It has been contended by those who would celebrate Columbus that
accusations concerning his perpetration of genocide are distortive
"revisions" of history. Whatever the process unleashed by his
"discovery" of the "New World," it is said, the discoverer
himself cannot be blamed. Whatever his defects and offenses, they are
surpassed by the luster of his achievements; however "tragic" or
"unfortunate" certain dimensions of his legacy may be, they are
more than offset by the benefits even for the victims of the resulting
blossoming of a "superior civilization" in the
Americas.



http://www.mit.edu/~thistle/v9/9.11/1columbus.html

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Re: Happy Columbus Day????
« Reply #3 on: October 10, 2010, 06:16:06 pm »

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Re: Happy Columbus Day????
« Reply #4 on: October 10, 2010, 06:16:56 pm »
Most of us were all taught of Christopher Columbus yet if you go by more than just what the school text books say, this is nothing to celebrate in fact it is yet the total opposite. 

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Re: Happy Columbus Day????
« Reply #6 on: October 10, 2010, 08:06:12 pm »
Wow!  I learn something new every day.  Thanks


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Re: Happy Columbus Day????
« Reply #8 on: October 14, 2010, 06:51:00 am »
Does anyone really "celebrate" this day anyway?  It's an excuse not to work or go to school.  Kind of like Saint Patrick's Day was supposed to be a Catholic holiday, then became a celebration of Irishness, and now everyone celebrates it and uses it as an excuse to get blitzed. 

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« Reply #9 on: October 14, 2010, 01:09:41 pm »
My convictions are such; everyone has the right to celebrate any thing they wish and in what ever legal fashion they choose. My beef is with the way that history has been mis-represented, propagandized and filled with lies of omission in very blatant dis-honest ways. I feel very strongly that we owe it to our youth to educate them with truths, not out and out lies, then equip them with tolerance for others who may think, act and look different then they do. That way they can be better informed and morally resposible citizens then what is the norm at present.

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Re: Happy Columbus Day????
« Reply #10 on: October 14, 2010, 01:11:36 pm »
My convictions are such; everyone has the right to celebrate any thing they wish and in what ever legal fashion they choose. My beef is with the way that history has been mis-represented, propagandized and filled with lies of omission in very blatant dis-honest ways. I feel very strongly that we owe it to our youth to educate them with truths, not out and out lies, then equip them with tolerance for others who may think, act and look different then they do. That way they can be better informed and morally resposible citizens then what is the norm at present.

This is one of the best things I have read on this forum!  Thank you, walks, for putting it this way.  Its short, blunt, and beautiful.   :thumbsup:



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Re: Happy Columbus Day????
« Reply #11 on: October 15, 2010, 07:06:26 am »
My convictions are such; everyone has the right to celebrate any thing they wish and in what ever legal fashion they choose. My beef is with the way that history has been mis-represented, propagandized and filled with lies of omission in very blatant dis-honest ways. I feel very strongly that we owe it to our youth to educate them with truths, not out and out lies, then equip them with tolerance for others who may think, act and look different then they do. That way they can be better informed and morally resposible citizens then what is the norm at present.

Fair enough.  I still remember a friend in HS saying to me "how can we celebrate Columbus Day after what he did to our people?" Our people being the native Puerto Ricans.

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Re: Happy Columbus Day????
« Reply #12 on: October 17, 2010, 12:18:18 pm »
My convictions are such; everyone has the right to celebrate any thing they wish and in what ever legal fashion they choose. My beef is with the way that history has been mis-represented, propagandized and filled with lies of omission in very blatant dis-honest ways. I feel very strongly that we owe it to our youth to educate them with truths, not out and out lies, then equip them with tolerance for others who may think, act and look different then they do. That way they can be better informed and morally resposible citizens then what is the norm at present.

Fair enough.  I still remember a friend in HS saying to me "how can we celebrate Columbus Day after what he did to our people?" Our people being the native Puerto Ricans.
Taino, no?
I didn't know we were cuzzins FC. Awesome!

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Re: Happy Columbus Day????
« Reply #13 on: October 17, 2010, 12:59:39 pm »
My convictions are such; everyone has the right to celebrate any thing they wish and in what ever legal fashion they choose. My beef is with the way that history has been mis-represented, propagandized and filled with lies of omission in very blatant dis-honest ways. I feel very strongly that we owe it to our youth to educate them with truths, not out and out lies, then equip them with tolerance for others who may think, act and look different then they do. That way they can be better informed and morally resposible citizens then what is the norm at present.

Fair enough.  I still remember a friend in HS saying to me "how can we celebrate Columbus Day after what he did to our people?" Our people being the native Puerto Ricans.
Taino, no?

I didn't know we were cuzzins FC. Awesome!

We might be. lol  I honestly can't say for sure as some of my relatives died very young and nothing is known about them, not even names... I am trying to find out though.

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