Legalize Marijuana?

[burkee92]

At the same time, legalizing marijuana could help the economy, but I don't have enough info to make a definite statement on that  :-

[bschumacher]

I think it is no more dangerous than alcohol, which has far less medicinal value, is just as dangerous as pot, and is legal. Legalize marijuana, regulate its use just as we do with booze, and tax it. Doing this will hurt the Mexican drug cartels and help people with serious nausea or glaucoma.

[hwilliams591]

well, the difference is, alcohol is LEGAL and It does kill innocent bystanders ALL the time, it also affects people in many ways, like anger, for one. that drunk A**hole takes it out on his/her family, beats his/her children, or drives drunk and kills a whole family.
and your right, sitting next to an alcoholic or someone drinking you wont get the same effects, but it can have an affect on that person sitting next to them. they may start running there mouth to you, start a fight, throw up on you lol... Alcohol takes away your perception, you may not even remember what you did, like punching up on your kids, breaking one of there arms, shoving your pregnant sister into a table and almost making her lose her baby, raping someone, murdering them.... I'm sorry, but the alcohol defense hits a nerve with me. Don't take it personally. I just don't agree.

Your just grabbing for straws now!
It is plainly obvious alcohol is legal.
Were you fail to realize is none of the effects of alcohol is passed on to those around the person drinking.
Marijuana can have the same effects you are decsribing about alcohol.

You are against alcohol but for marijuana? That makes no sense at all. Read up on it alot more that what was posted by those that are for it. You will have a better understanding if you can see both sides.
Everything that has happened from a person under the influence of alcohol has also happed to a person under the influence of marijuana.

I never said alcohol was good, so learn how to read as I'm not defending it at all.

[sflynt]

well, the difference is, alcohol is LEGAL and It does kill innocent bystanders ALL the time, it also affects people in many ways, like anger, for one. that drunk A**hole takes it out on his/her family, beats his/her children, or drives drunk and kills a whole family.
and your right, sitting next to an alcoholic or someone drinking you wont get the same effects, but it can have an affect on that person sitting next to them. they may start running there mouth to you, start a fight, throw up on you lol... Alcohol takes away your perception, you may not even remember what you did, like punching up on your kids, breaking one of there arms, shoving your pregnant sister into a table and almost making her lose her baby, raping someone, murdering them.... I'm sorry, but the alcohol defense hits a nerve with me. Don't take it personally. I just don't agree.

Your just grabbing for straws now!
It is plainly obvious alcohol is legal.
Were you fail to realize is none of the effects of alcohol is passed on to those around the person drinking.
Marijuana can have the same effects you are decsribing about alcohol.

You are against alcohol but for marijuana? That makes no sense at all. Read up on it alot more that what was posted by those that are for it. You will have a better understanding if you can see both sides.
Everything that has happened from a person under the influence of alcohol has also happed to a person under the influence of marijuana.

I never said alcohol was good, so learn how to read as I'm not defending it at all.

oh I gotcha. I'm not grasping for anything. and I can READ just fine, thank you. No need to insult my intelligence.
 What I don't understand, is if they both harm people and as you stated: "Everything that has happened from a person under the influence of alcohol has also happed to a person under the influence of marijuana," then why is one legal and one not?? I personally think that alcohol is worse.(of course thats my opinion) I have known many potheads and many alcoholics in my day, and those alcoholics have harmed more people. If someone wants to drink or smoke pot in there own home, that should be fine. Its never okay to drive under the influence of anything. Just because someone doesn't get drunk by another person drinking doesnt mean it doesnt affect them in some way. I understand what you are saying, by someone smoking weed around other people they'll get high too, but it shouldn't be smoked around other people who don't smoke. Trust me, I understand both sides and I've definitely read all the posts in here.
Hmm... maybe you should go back and read them... I think you missed some stuff.

[502mania]

actually guys, there's not nearly enough thc in second hand marijuana smoke to get you high from breathing it. The smoke you blow out has no thc at all because your body has just absorbed it. the smoke from the joint itself isn't enough for you to get high. the contact buzz theory is plain ridiculus. and if you believe in imaginary contact buzzs
(which only exist in movies) and don't want to inhale it.... leave the room or the house. nobody's gonna put a gun to your head nd make you breathe it. Alcohol is what i pour on a cut so it dosen't get infected. i don't drink except maybe a wine every now and then. i'm not against alcohol, weed's just better:
weed - happy, creative, apprenciation of arts, sometimes sleepy, hungry
alcohol - angry, slurred speech, blurred vision, weak motor skills, pukey, pissy, uncoordinated, oh yea and a hangover in the morning.

[502mania]

Truth is many have been charged with DUI's from smoking marijauna, many have even killed others while driving impaired from marijuana.

So you've fouund deaths by weed that the aerican health association hasen't? please present those case numbers. and i'm sure people have wrecked on marijuana. people wreck sobr all te time. but the truth is.... marijuana onl slightly slows down your time perception, but only mentally, for people with anxiety, like myself, that slows me down just enough to think straight and pay attenion to what i'm doing.

[roguetodd]

well, the difference is, alcohol is LEGAL and It does kill innocent bystanders ALL the time, it also affects people in many ways, like anger, for one. that drunk A**hole takes it out on his/her family, beats his/her children, or drives drunk and kills a whole family.
and your right, sitting next to an alcoholic or someone drinking you wont get the same effects, but it can have an affect on that person sitting next to them. they may start running there mouth to you, start a fight, throw up on you lol... Alcohol takes away your perception, you may not even remember what you did, like punching up on your kids, breaking one of there arms, shoving your pregnant sister into a table and almost making her lose her baby, raping someone, murdering them.... I'm sorry, but the alcohol defense hits a nerve with me. Don't take it personally. I just don't agree.

Your just grabbing for straws now!
It is plainly obvious alcohol is legal.
Were you fail to realize is none of the effects of alcohol is passed on to those around the person drinking.
Marijuana can have the same effects you are decsribing about alcohol.

You are against alcohol but for marijuana? That makes no sense at all. Read up on it alot more that what was posted by those that are for it. You will have a better understanding if you can see both sides.
Everything that has happened from a person under the influence of alcohol has also happed to a person under the influence of marijuana.

I never said alcohol was good, so learn how to read as I'm not defending it at all.

Here I can end this argument now.

Edibles. Have marijuana only be ingested orally. There you go. Stop complaining about contact highs.

actually guys, there's not nearly enough thc in second hand marijuana smoke to get you high from breathing it. The smoke you blow out has no thc at all because your body has just absorbed it. the smoke from the joint itself isn't enough for you to get high. the contact buzz theory is plain ridiculus. and if you believe in imaginary contact buzzs
(which only exist in movies) and don't want to inhale it.... leave the room or the house. nobody's gonna put a gun to your head nd make you breathe it. Alcohol is what i pour on a cut so it dosen't get infected. i don't drink except maybe a wine every now and then. i'm not against alcohol, weed's just better:
weed - happy, creative, apprenciation of arts, sometimes sleepy, hungry
alcohol - angry, slurred speech, blurred vision, weak motor skills, pukey, pissy, uncoordinated, oh yea and a hangover in the morning.

As for this:

There is a % of the THC that does not get absorbed, be it through coughing prematurely, or just not actually inhaling into the lungs. BUT it is such a small amount that you could not get a "contact high" from this just by standing next to someone smoking. You would have to be in a confined space, such as "hotboxing" a car over an extended period of time(I.E 15-30 mins) of them constantly smoking for you to feel anything even slightly.

Truth is many have been charged with DUI's from smoking marijauna, many have even killed others while driving impaired from marijuana.

So you've fouund deaths by weed that the aerican health association hasen't? please present those case numbers. and i'm sure people have wrecked on marijuana. people wreck sobr all te time. but the truth is.... marijuana onl slightly slows down your time perception, but only mentally, for people with anxiety, like myself, that slows me down just enough to think straight and pay attenion to what i'm doing.

My last little tidbit of information:

A study was done that actually proved that SLIGHT amounts of Marijuana ingestion actually made drivers safer than sober people due to them driving at reduced speeds and being more alert(possibly caused by the slight paranoia of someone hitting them from the Marijuana)

NOT THAT I WOULD EVER CONDONE DRIVING UNDER ANY INFLUENCE. it was just a study i found interesting.

[sflynt]

i'm not against alcohol, weed's just better:
weed - happy, creative, apprenciation of arts, sometimes sleepy, hungry
alcohol - angry, slurred speech, blurred vision, weak motor skills, pukey, pissy, uncoordinated, oh yea and a hangover in the morning.

I agree. but I do think that if you hot box someone thats not actually smoking, they will feel the affects of it. but if your smoking on the streets innocent bystanders aren't going to get high off it. unless they want to...

I just don't understand how someone could think marijuana is worse than alcohol, (see below) thats where I kinda went off on a separate trail...lol

It is not any wonder drug. It does not cure cancer!

And it is worst then alcohol as it effects innocent bystanders, anyone around someone smoking might as well be smoking too. And this is something that should not be in public. Anyone that thinks so does not care about the welfare of their family or others...plain and simple.

Medical use is fine if done with others out of harms way.

[502mania]

sounds like hwilliams hasen't done his research.
"it dosen't  cure cancer"
"it's not any wonder plant"

do you know how much this country would benefit from hemp? I used to be illegal NOT to grow it, youcould pay your taxes with it. but corrupt mn got their way to stay rich. it's eople like you, hwilliams, that follow blindly and help them succeed in robbing us of our freedom.

[tee1265]

I don't smoke marijuana, but I feel that they should legalize it.   The government should tax it to help the economy out.  I  know alot of young and old folks that
never really have money, but they manage to come up with money to buy marijuana.

[philozex]

It amazes me to find how many people still by into the propaganda of "Reefer Madness." Or for other "Studies" do by this institution or company.  The only reason there was a law put into place on one of this countries biggest cash crops(and I don't just mean the plant to smoke and get high) was written in a fashion to put a hold on the minorities and promote cotton and tobacco.  Hemp is a wounderous recoarse able to make; fuel, oil, soap, fabric, rope, paper and wood.  There are many more thing how ever I can't think of them at the moment. In some parts it is fine to grow Hemp but the stigma on the plant is to bad and very few people will grow it because of that.

[jordandog]

actually guys, there's not nearly enough thc in second hand marijuana smoke to get you high from breathing it. The smoke you blow out has no thc at all because your body has just absorbed it. the smoke from the joint itself isn't enough for you to get high. the contact buzz theory is plain ridiculus. and if you believe in imaginary contact buzzs
(which only exist in movies) and don't want to inhale it.... leave the room or the house. nobody's gonna put a gun to your head nd make you breathe it.

I am going to call you out right now on this part of your post. The other person may not feel like they have gotten high, but if they are around you long enough and are close enough to smell/breath it, a urine test and/or a blood draw will show a measurable level of THC. Unless you also have a medical degree and are practicing medicine, I don't think you are in a position to argue this one. I am not going to waste my time refuting all the other incorrect things in here, but that one I will. I know of many who have been put in a tough spot after an accident even when they were NOT the person 'purposely' smoking it. Kids who live with adults that smoke around them can and do absorb the THC also. Do you realize, considering the body mass of say a 3 year old, how little smoke it actually requires for them to be affected? Do you have any idea how many kids have been removed from homes by Childrens Services for this very reason ie they tested positive because of parents/adults in the home?

[armychick09h]

i havent read the whole forum but i will. people grow weed without thc all the time.
the plants been around forever whoever smoked it first didnt have thc.
Uhm... the legalized marijuana...Devil's weed as some call that def. has thc. the stories i have heard and the people who have taken. look it up on youtube its shocking that its legal. Where as regular marijuana lesser side effects you are aware of everything. Legalize it? im not sure it'd make less of a commotion. but the thing is will it start legalization of other drugs.  By far this is, compared to Coccaine or heroine or whatever else is there, nothing compared to them. 50/50 on this.

[amyrouse]

I am not going to waste my time refuting all the other incorrect things in here, but that one I will.

I'm actually quite curious about this now, Jordandog...I would actually like to hear the opinion of someone who has experience in medicine.

[sflynt]

 

I am not going to waste my time refuting all the other incorrect things in here, but that one I will.

I'm actually quite curious about this now, Jordandog...I would actually like to hear the opinion of someone who has experience in medicine.

Jordandog, I would actually love to hear it too, please. Especially from someone who has experience in medicine.

I am going to call you out right now on this part of your post. The other person may not feel like they have gotten high, but if they are around you long enough and are close enough to smell/breath it, a urine test and/or a blood draw will show a measurable level of THC. Unless you also have a medical degree and are practicing medicine, I don't think you are in a position to argue this one. I am not going to waste my time refuting all the other incorrect things in here, but that one I will. I know of many who have been put in a tough spot after an accident even when they were NOT the person 'purposely' smoking it. Kids who live with adults that smoke around them can and do absorb the THC also. Do you realize, considering the body mass of say a 3 year old, how little smoke it actually requires for them to be affected? Do you have any idea how many kids have been removed from homes by Childrens Services for this very reason ie they tested positive because of parents/adults in the home?

I don't think its EVER right to do anything like that around children. Whether its drinking, smoking, or anything illegal. Its never right, IMO.