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502mania

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Re: 9/11
« Reply #30 on: September 19, 2010, 03:47:47 pm »
I see it like this, If the government had no prior knowledge, nor had anything to do with it, then why lie, why dodge questions? Not only that, but we should have expected retalitation after bombing them for no reason over the years BEFORE 9/11.
Aly, There is too much evidece of explosives, like molten steel at the bottom of the towers, days after the attack. jet fuel dosen't burn that hot.

queenofnines, explain how so many exposives were planted in BOTH towers without ANYONE getting caught.
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Re: 9/11
« Reply #31 on: September 19, 2010, 03:52:57 pm »
I thought terrorists had explosives on the plane and on them!?!
first, that theory indicates that it wasn't a commercial plane, second even if that were true (which it probably is), what about the explosions through out the tower all the way down? there were even signs of explosives near the basement. explain those
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« Reply #32 on: September 19, 2010, 04:14:47 pm »
Sorry, but I don't buy into the whole (as queen put it) 'wacko conspiracy' theories either. If that's the way your mind tends to run, then you can find a conspiracy around every corner, for every thing that happens. I think some folks on here have been watching a little too much Jessie Ventura - there's a great mind at work - and watching/reading too many great Hollywood subplots from wannabe famous writers and film directors.

As for the your stuff in the Pentagon, 502mania, come on, really? There were over 50+ eyewitnesses who testified about seeing the plane hit the Pentagon and many of them were close enough to identify it as an American Airlines craft. In the minutes after it occured, you think these people were all rounded up and told to lie? You have:
*numerous eyewitness accounts of an American Airlines passenger plane crashing into the Pentagon
*phone calls from passengers on American Airlines flight 77 reporting that it had been hijacked- did they fake that?
*eyewitness accounts of airplane parts scattered on the ground
*the bodies of airline passengers still strapped in their seats found at the Pentagon crash site
*photographs of airplane parts
*the remains of bodies recovered at the Pentagon crash site positively identified as matching those of the passengers and crew on American Airlines flight 77

You mentioned explosions on different floors of the buildings. There are those things called gas lines, electrical conduits/boxes, etc., and they all tend to have an explosive effect under the right conditions. There is this funny thing called build-up from various gasses that are given off by things as simple as copier toner and an entire list of other chemicals found in any office complex that will explode under the right conditions. We aren't talking about some little one story office here either, so think about that. Do you know how intricate and extensive the detection systems for security were in those towers? They were some companies in those buildings that basically ran the entire economy, so don't you think there was protection against breeches of any kind?

I just spoke with my dad, cause he is really smart...I asked if the world trade center was a conspiracy and he said it is possible the president knew about it and let it happen because he wanted to go to war with Iraq and war creates jobs and it's all about money, money, money

If your dad is so smart, he would also know that *bleep* Cheney and 2 groups he was/is asscoiated with have been talking of and planning the overthrow of Saddam Hussein and war on Iraq since 1996. Do some checking into these groups, IASPS and PNAC, and find out the huge influence they had on Bush and going to war. Have him check Cheney's buddies out while he is at it, because they all belonged to one or both of those groups. I don't care how much people hate/dislike Bush. Can anyone honestly believe he knew about 9/11 and just sat back and let it happen?
And again, YOU claimed YOU knew about it before it happened, but didn't say a word either. Let's not forget that. Maybe you're part of this 'conspiracy' and have blood on your hands too - ever think about that? :P
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Re: 9/11
« Reply #33 on: September 19, 2010, 04:20:47 pm »
lol at your response to marie, jordan, but actually some people said it was a military plane, some said it was AA. but if it REALLY was a plane, why not release the footage? and why was there no skid marks on the grass? are you saying the plane flew EXACTLY and PERCISELY at the ground and the wall of the spot it hit? not a scratch on the lawn, an no spots of breakage by wings. just a hole.
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« Reply #34 on: September 19, 2010, 04:26:03 pm »
What got me when watching that special of combined 9/11 footage it was the recordings they played where people in the buildings were calling 911 and the 911 operators were telling them not to try to leave the building but to stay where they were and wait for firefighters....these people were hanging out windows trying to get fresh air and call for help.  I just cant see why they would tell them to stay and wait when the sirens were going off telling them to evacuate.  Anyone that works in a high rise goes through drills for evacuation why would u stop and say wait a min I am going to call 911 and see what they tell us to do first before we try to run like hell down the stairs.  If this footage that I watched was indeed real.  Doesn't that make the person in charge whoever told 911 operators to tell people in the building that somewhat responsible for some of the deaths?  Call me crazy but if I knew a plane had just crashed into the building I was in or even just a fire in the building.  I wouldn't take the time to call 911 to ask what to do  I would call to report a fire.. then get the heck outta there anyway I could find.
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« Reply #35 on: September 19, 2010, 04:31:51 pm »
lol at your response to marie, jordan, but actually some people said it was a military plane, some said it was AA. but if it REALLY was a plane, why not release the footage? and why was there no skid marks on the grass? are you saying the plane flew EXACTLY and PERCISELY at the ground and the wall of the spot it hit? not a scratch on the lawn, an no spots of breakage by wings. just a hole.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UVhhu5OjMf8

You can see the plane hit in the first 3 seconds. This was on the news. Watch it.
I believe 502 is referring to the pentagon incident Marie not the planes hitting the WTC

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« Reply #36 on: September 19, 2010, 04:52:24 pm »
lol at your response to marie, jordan, but actually some people said it was a military plane, some said it was AA. but if it REALLY was a plane, why not release the footage? and why was there no skid marks on the grass? are you saying the plane flew EXACTLY and PERCISELY at the ground and the wall of the spot it hit? not a scratch on the lawn, an no spots of breakage by wings. just a hole.

I am going to venture a guess that you have not actually read or seen too much on this other than what has been put out there by the French conspiracy theorist Thierry Meyssan. His book and theories are the basis for 99% of all the other people's theories on this that exist on the web and/or in books, articles, interviews, etc. and he has been shown to be a fraud, even by his own government and ours. They have actually asked this guy to back off. I am trying right now to find you something on the Pentagon and the actual damage that occured because it is much more than what was seen in the photos because they were taken from so far away. I'll post what I find as soon as I find it - that made sense.... :P
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« Reply #37 on: September 19, 2010, 05:01:05 pm »
This is NOT the one I was trying to find, but it gives an excellent description and photo of the damage and also explains why it wasn't more extensive. They also mention Meyssan and his 'debunked' theory I wrote about. If you look at the photo, you'll see how much more than just the outside of the Pentagon incurred damage.

http://www.snopes.com/rumors/pentagon.asp
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« Reply #38 on: September 19, 2010, 05:05:07 pm »
Did you ever see the jumpers?

That is really freakin poor taste to put that up! :angry7: Do you get off on this stuff? That is beyond thoughtless.
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« Reply #39 on: September 19, 2010, 05:11:50 pm »
And clearly you see the trade center falling from top to bottom, not bottom to top.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Epo8Zv5xA24&feature=related
As the WTC falls from "top to bottom" it explodes "from top to bottom". there are small explosions going down one by one. and i highly doubt that a jet feul fire made it collapse. i would be the first in history.
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« Reply #40 on: September 19, 2010, 05:13:51 pm »
And clearly you see the trade center falling from top to bottom, not bottom to top.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Epo8Zv5xA24&feature=related
also, marie that video skips several frames. and you can see (befor it starts skipping frames) a small explosion onthe building as it "collapses from a fire"
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« Reply #41 on: September 19, 2010, 05:17:57 pm »
lol at your response to marie, jordan, but actually some people said it was a military plane, some said it was AA. but if it REALLY was a plane, why not release the footage? and why was there no skid marks on the grass? are you saying the plane flew EXACTLY and PERCISELY at the ground and the wall of the spot it hit? not a scratch on the lawn, an no spots of breakage by wings. just a hole.
I am going to venture a guess that you have not actually read or seen too much on this other than what has been put out there by the French conspiracy theorist Thierry Meyssan. His book and theories are the basis for 99% of all the other people's theories on this that exist on the web and/or in books, articles, interviews, etc. and he has been shown to be a fraud, even by his own government and ours. They have actually asked this guy to back off. I am trying right now to find you something on the Pentagon and the actual damage that occured because it is much more than what was seen in the photos because they were taken from so far away. I'll post what I find as soon as I find it - that made sense.... :P
actually im not familiar even with the name.
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« Reply #42 on: September 19, 2010, 05:20:09 pm »
Did you ever see the jumpers?
That is really freakin poor taste to put that up! :angry7: Do you get off on this stuff? That is beyond thoughtless.
STFU...
Why do you keep saying "shut the *bleep* up"? this isn't a childish argument. can we please be civil here?
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« Reply #43 on: September 19, 2010, 05:21:13 pm »
You may not know HIS name, but did you miss this that I also wrote re Meyssan:
His book and theories are the basis for 99% of all the other people's theories on this that exist on the web and/or in books, articles, interviews, etc.
You are entitled to your own opinion, but you are not entitled to your own facts.

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« Reply #44 on: September 19, 2010, 05:27:30 pm »
You may not know HIS name, but did you miss this that I also wrote re Meyssan:
His book and theories are the basis for 99% of all the other people's theories on this that exist on the web and/or in books, articles, interviews, etc.
If it's all a wacko conspiracy theory, then why has our government lied an refused to show footage of the pentagon. they took the footage from normal people for no reason. why take the footage if there's nothing to hide?
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