Um, Why Was "If you believe in God, You're a retard" Locked?

[shernajwine]

Using the beliefs from the bible to try and point out how someone believes something that is nonsense, that's ridiculous coming from someone who believes that we are here because of some chemical reaction in some primordial soup WITH NO EVIDENCE (here we are at that again). Also, the first living organism had to replicate itself somehow. Even if you want to say that RNA replicated itself, at some point you will have a handful of creatures who are reproducing through incest. The belief we all come from a common ancestor is incestuous, the belief we came from soup is no better supported through evidence from science than the bible account of creation!

[jcribb16]

How come everyone ignores this? I guess they can't argue with it....


In the Bible we are Dust...and scientifically we did come from dust.

I say that is pretty good for some desert people 

[Falconer02]

In the Bible we are Dust...and scientifically we did come from dust. I say that is pretty good for some desert people  

Yeah. And women came from a rib! That's pretty good for some desert people too!!!  GO JAYZUZ!1!11!!1!

Using the beliefs from the bible to try and point out how someone believes something that is nonsense, that's ridiculous coming from someone who believes that we are here because of some chemical reaction in some primordial soup WITH NO EVIDENCE (here we are at that again).

Those reactions have successfully been demonstrated in experiments though and therefore there is enough viable evidence to hold it together as a sustained theory. Basic life grew naturally in these experiments. But, of course, the model has holes. For instance we don't have a timescale of 4 billion years to work with, so we don't know how some peices of the puzzle work. Could this be proven false? Sure. But until all the natural evidence is for certain, we can't dismiss it. That's science for ya.

the belief we came from soup is no better supported through evidence from science than the bible account of creation!

Soooo you're taking a proven myth involving dust-man and rib-woman and putting it on the same mantel as natural? Let's do an experiment- Take some dirt and dust, mix it with a human rib, and get back to me with your results. Remember that you have 1 day to prove this proposition-- no beating around the bush with christian "1 day for god = 1 billion years for us" stuff. If you-know-what happens, you've got my undying support for your creationist theory. Involve the supernatural, mythical, delusional, etc. and you automatically have shown there's a massive difference as far as evidence goes.

[queenofnines]

Soooo you're taking a proven myth involving dust-man and rib-woman and putting it on the same mantel as natural? Let's do an experiment- Take some dirt and dust, mix it with a human rib, and get back to me with your results. Remember that you have 1 day to prove this proposition-- no beating around the bush with christian "1 day for god = 1 billion years for us" stuff. If you-know-what happens, you've got my undying support for your creationist theory.

Heh, I love this!  All they are left to say is, "Well no, I could not make a human out of dirt and/or ribs, because I'm not the magician in this story - god is."

And Sherna -- organisms were much simpler back then, so they didn't have the problem of incest like humans do.  Also, life beginning to form happened over a much wider area than just 2 people bumpin' uglies in the neighborhood garden.   

[belleg1]

Yes, Queenie, a head injury does change one's personality. I used to be a really nice person until a woman talking on a cell phone while driving an SUV T-boned my husband and I while we were riding our Harley. My head SMACKED the top of her hood and now I'm a real *bleep* but I STILL BELIEVE IN GOD!!! That will NEVER change, because of GOD OUR FATHER I and my husband are still alive! And as always I will say a prayer for all non-believers. Amen.

[queenofnines]

Yes, Queenie

I am, again, perplexed as to why people use my screenname in this way.  It's so juvenile.

I used to be a really nice person...now I'm a real *bleep* but I STILL BELIEVE IN GOD!!!

Heh - I found this amusing.   

That will NEVER change, because of GOD OUR FATHER I and my husband are still alive!

Did I say a head injury *guarantees* a change of belief in god?  No, no I didn't.  But let me use the example of my grandmother: she's been dead basically for almost 10 years now, even though physically, she's still alive.  This is because of Alzheimer's.  Your "loving" god has allowed her brain to be eaten away to the point that she can't even walk OR talk now.  She's been suffering for 10 freaking years and she's still not dead yet.  It makes me very sad to see her in pictures -- she looks completely lifeless.  It also makes me sad that my still-functional grandfather has had to see his wife of 50+ years go through this and care for her.

She believed in god...when she could remember what the concept of god was, of course.  Now she's just a zombie, and you want to brag about how "god" saved you and your man?  Please.  It's not god, it's just life.  Sometimes you get lucky (as in your case), and sometimes you have to suffer (as in my grandma and many others' case).

And as always I will say a prayer for all non-believers.

No thanks.

[jordandog]

And last but not least we are dust...I don't care if you want to get all dumb up in here but we are dust...acknowledge it....the bible says he created us from dust and science will point out specifics and tell you we are star Dust...but we are dust.

Quit saying God made us from Dirt...because that is retarded...he made us from dust....as soon as you admit it is truth both in religion and science we can address other parts of the bible.

You people can't even get past the 7 days of creation in Genesis.  

Ah, another reference to 'retarded', how nice of you. Yeah, WE really shouldn't "get all dumb up in here', that would insult your vast intelligence of the bible and creation. "We can address other parts of the bible"? Would that be the "very small part" YOU admitted in the last day or 2 that you have read? Such an erudite post coming from you, amazing.

[Lusie]

When it comes down to it isnt dust dirt?

[Falconer02]

Keep trying but I can guarantee you, no one can breath life into anything.

CPR? Lawl. This is the problem with the argument though. You need to reread most of this thread in order to understand it. But I doubt that's gonna happen so I don't know why I, or anyone else, is responding to someone who will never understand anything above elementary school intelligence.

Quit saying God made us from Dirt...because that is retarded...he made us from dust....as soon as you admit it is truth both in religion and science we can address other parts of the bible

...and a rib.

[tzs]

Did I say a head injury *guarantees* a change of belief in god?  No, no I didn't.  But let me use the example of my grandmother: she's been dead basically for almost 10 years now, even though physically, she's still alive.  This is because of Alzheimer's.  Your "loving" god has allowed her brain to be eaten away to the point that she can't even walk OR talk now.  She's been suffering for 10 freaking years and she's still not dead yet.  It makes me very sad to see her in pictures -- she looks completely lifeless.  It also makes me sad that my still-functional grandfather has had to see his wife of 50+ years go through this and care for her.

She believed in god...when she could remember what the concept of god was, of course.  Now she's just a zombie, and you want to brag about how "god" saved you and your man?  Please.  It's not god, it's just life.  Sometimes you get lucky (as in your case), and sometimes you have to suffer (as in my grandma and many others' case).

Because it is a brain....the spirit is different. Her spirit knows who God is and never forgot. Life isn't suppost to be easy...what would the point be? The sweet isn't as sweet without the sour.

I heard going to jail will get you religion REAL QUICK!!! LOL!!!!

[Falconer02]

I would show you proof that you are wrong and make no sense (as usual), but I don't feel the need to do a search. You aren't worth my time, troll. Why the hell am I writing this even?

[queenofnines]

YOU CAN'T CREATE NEW LIFE.

WRONG.  Scientists have been able to create it in the lab.

[ButterflyWings]

to marie's comment umm hun scientists clone things in a lab..Babies are created to be implanted..So really you need to read before you speak..And man you flip flop on religion so much you make my damn head spin..And sorry but you could have picked a better word then retarded that shows your intelligence is fairly low..And lock the topic before I can post man you ruined my day LMAO..

Thanks queens for reopening topic..

Now why is it always a atheist thing when someone may not believe?? Cannot not just be hmm logical thinking or umm searching??

[ButterflyWings]

LMAO SHERYL thats funny thanks I needed a laugh LOL

[jordandog]

Now why is it always a atheist thing when someone may not believe?? Cannot not just be hmm logical thinking or umm searching??

Very good question there, ButterflyWings, and I don't know. It just seems easier to compartmentalize any of us who question, whether we say we ARE atheist or agnostic or don't say it. We also get portrayed as if we don't each have different ways of interpreting or looking at things and I don't agree with that. I don't agree with it because while all Christians believe in the bible, I don't try to lump all sects of christianity into one, they are all different. And I don't lump all believers into christianity, because many are are of different faiths altogether. I'll use amyrouse as an example - she happens to be of the Jewish faith, but anyone who doesn't know that and reads some of her posts automatically labels her as christian. It's akin to saying all scientists are biologists.