The Official God Thread - To Discuss God and Seek Answers

[amyrouse]

This irritates me somewhat...so let's break it down...

The tetragrammaton: Y H V H

Adonai vowels:  A O A

Add them together: Y A H O V A H

Sound it out now...Yahovah...Jahovah...gee...that's difficult to place...does it mean that this is g-d's name?

Tell me more about how I'm wrong about the vowels, teflon...  

[armychick09h]

The no vowels in hebrew arguement is fallacious. You could say that about every word in the hebrew language.  As for heaven being limited revelation states that only 144,000 will be apart of the first resurrection(A.K.A as firstfruits)
Revelation 14:1-4.

 "what will happen to the rest and how will God sort them out. What if their are more then that number? will he just pick the ones who have sinned less? Could someone clarified this for me. Cause as far as the Jehova witnesses told me is even if i repent i will more then likely never make it to heaven because of all my sins and for not letting god into my life sooner. i was told this i believe when i was ten and answered my door because i had only been to church for about a year.

1. They're will not be more then 144,000 (Revelation 14:1-4), it's the individuals choice to determine whether your part of that group or not. People who are of the 144,000 are not to boast about it, and the JW's don't scold people that claim it. For the JW that told you that i'm srry, the truth is it's your choice. 


2. The rest will be on earth, it's true there's no phrase in the bible that says paradise earth, however they are prophecies that only occurs on earth.

"Evildoers themselves will be cut off, but those hoping in Jehovah are the ones that will possess the earth."—Psalm 37:9

There will come to be plenty of grain on the earth; on the top of the mountains there will be an overflow Psalm 72:16)

Happy are the mild-tempered ones, since they will inherit the earth( Matthew 5:5)

The sheep and goats parable helps to undertand how he will srt them out, witht the help of his son.

Hope this helps.

thanks

[amyrouse]

The no vowels in hebrew arguement is fallacious. You could say that about every word in the hebrew language.  As for heaven being limited revelation states that only 144,000 will be apart of the first resurrection(A.K.A as firstfruits)
Revelation 14:1-4.

 "what will happen to the rest and how will God sort them out. What if their are more then that number? will he just pick the ones who have sinned less? Could someone clarified this for me. Cause as far as the Jehova witnesses told me is even if i repent i will more then likely never make it to heaven because of all my sins and for not letting god into my life sooner. i was told this i believe when i was ten and answered my door because i had only been to church for about a year.

1. They're will not be more then 144,000 (Revelation 14:1-4), it's the individuals choice to determine whether your part of that group or not. People who are of the 144,000 are not to boast about it, and the JW's don't scold people that claim it. For the JW that told you that i'm srry, the truth is it's your choice. 


2. The rest will be on earth, it's true there's no phrase in the bible that says paradise earth, however they are prophecies that only occurs on earth.

"Evildoers themselves will be cut off, but those hoping in Jehovah are the ones that will possess the earth."—Psalm 37:9

There will come to be plenty of grain on the earth; on the top of the mountains there will be an overflow Psalm 72:16)

Happy are the mild-tempered ones, since they will inherit the earth( Matthew 5:5)

The sheep and goats parable helps to undertand how he will srt them out, witht the help of his son.

Hope this helps.

thanks

Oh, dear...I hope you've read the posts since this one...

[armychick09h]

yes i have. he told me the number i could not remember and a bit. am i going with all he says no but he still answered a bit

[Cuppycake]

they continue to say that the things that happened in the bible are not factual- I believe they happened, and that is all the proof I need.

You will fall victim to many a scam in your life with an attitude like that.  Skepticism is healthy and is the default position.

I would rather believe that the supreme being (God) created me , than to believe the ridiculous notion that we came from apes.

So you'd rather believe in "what feels good" at all costs in lieu of the actual truth?  Well at least you're honest in that regard.  You're in good company...the main reason so many people can't let go of their unfounded beliefs is because they're terrified of a reality without them.

I would rather believe that if I live for God that he will give me a reward of being in heaven with him forever than believe that I will come back as a bug or flower.

Hmm, a lot more people believe in actual death than reincarnation.  Why didn't you address that?  You're sentence should read:

I would rather believe that if I live for God that he will give me a reward of being in heaven with him forever than believe that this life is it; when you die, you are actually dead.

I would rather believe that God created this beautiful earth and all of the wonders of creation than believe it just somehow showed up on its own- why wouldn't you?

Why are the good things of the world any less good without a god?  Actually, they are infinitely more precious BECAUSE they didn't appear by magic and BECAUSE they won't last forever.

I am very glad there are sane people like you in this world. ♥

[queenofnines]

I am very glad there are sane people like you in this world. ♥

Aw, thanks!  Right back at ya, Cuppycake!   

[Cuppycake]

I am very glad there are sane people like you in this world. ♥

Aw, thanks!  Right back at ya, Cuppycake!   

Yep you guys should be so proud of yourselves.

Your mom.

[worthberthava17]

To believe in God is something that takes a lot of  not. Not living like you might die ever day, not believing man and woman were made evil. Not believing that you have to be better then the other person. Believeing in God is also beliveing in you.

[jordandog]

Just as the groceries fill the pantry, so does the cat fill the litter box
Just as the dirty laundry fills the washer, so do the wet clothes fill the dryer
Just as the car runs out of gas, so does the bank account run out of money
Just as the berries grow on bushes, so does the bird who eats them poop on your clean car

[queenofnines]

if something happens after we die then there is a God BUT you have to die first, for the truth to be revealed.

That's a very high price to pay, dontcha think?

[AmyTrivitt]

I think you have to know who you are. Get to know the monster that lives in your soul, dive deep into your soul and explore it.

I read all of you quotes and I have to stop you. Only you on here want everyone to treat you with respect with your religion, yet you belittle everyone else's. You have to give respect to earn it.

[walksalone11]

I think you have to know who you are. Get to know the monster that lives in your soul, dive deep into your soul and explore it.

I read all of you quotes and I have to stop you. Only you on here want everyone to treat you with respect with your religion, yet you belittle everyone else's. You have to give respect to earn it.

Naaaa she just demands to be seen and gets off on getting rises out of everyone.

[Alyia72]

I think you have to know who you are. Get to know the monster that lives in your soul, dive deep into your soul and explore it.

I read all of you quotes and I have to stop you. Only you on here want everyone to treat you with respect with your religion, yet you belittle everyone else's. You have to give respect to earn it.

Naaaa she just demands to be seen and gets off on getting rises out of everyone.

Not true, I hate disorder! I like things to be harmonious. I don't demand to be seen. I am just in here having discussions like everyone else, granted I post a lot more but yeah.

Yep..that's why you make dozens of topics and lock them immediately so no one can discuss or disagree.  I totally agree with Amy that you have to give respect to earn it and the sooner you start respecting other peoples opinions and beliefs no matter if they share yours or not you will see that you will get respect in return. Somehow at this time I doubt that will happen though as it sure appears your just out to get attention.

[ljNana]

Isn't it absolutely amazing that there are 39 pages to this discussion so far?  That tells you something about God. There are many many people who want to know if there really is a God. Many of the people who respond with critical remarks about those who do  believe, are some of those who want there to be a God.  My wild and crazy brother who died at 50 because of his lifestyle always put people down who said there was a God. He just couldn't understand why people could believe something they couldn't see. He wanted to know so badly, that in the last few months of his life, he accepted Jesus. He saw his thoughts about life changing. He's in heaven now, praise God!

[queenofnines]

Isn't it absolutely amazing that there are 39 pages to this discussion so far?

Isn't it absolutely amazing that there are and have been literally THOUSANDS of different gods?  All of them invisible!  And not one with any proof!

It can be a long, drawn-out process trying to get people to see sense...the fact that religion is argued so much is proof that god is not fact.

Many of the people who respond with critical remarks about those who do  believe, are some of those who want there to be a God.

Uh, no.  Don't you know that the majority of atheists/agnostics/etc. used to be devoted believers themselves???

My wild and crazy brother who died at 50 because of his lifestyle always put people down who said there was a God. He just couldn't understand why people could believe something they couldn't see. He wanted to know so badly, that in the last few months of his life, he accepted Jesus. He saw his thoughts about life changing. He's in heaven now, praise God!

How dare you say your brother died *because* he spoke of reason in the face of delusion.  Again, most atheists have real experience believing in a god, SO WE KNOW EXACTLY WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT with this mindset of god belief.

As for your brother, he probably caved under the pressure of knowing he was dying when he chose to accept your pal Jesus.  That is all.