The Official God Thread - To Discuss God and Seek Answers

[jcribb16]

Quote from queenofnines:
We did not come from apes.  We share a common ancestor - as does all life on Earth.  We split off into different species and evolved at different rates, adapting to our unique environments.  Does that make sense now??

Would you please clarify how you say we split off into different species? I totally get the "biological classification" and "taxonomic rank" so I know the line-up on that.  And if we supposedly all started off from 1 organism, then who made the organism in the first place? It sure didn't just appear without a deity of some kind creating it.

[Cuppycake]

Quote from queenofnines:
We did not come from apes.  We share a common ancestor - as does all life on Earth.  We split off into different species and evolved at different rates, adapting to our unique environments.  Does that make sense now??

Would you please clarify how you say we split off into different species? I totally get the "biological classification" and "taxonomic rank" so I know the line-up on that.  And if we supposedly all started off from 1 organism, then who made the organism in the first place? It sure didn't just appear without a deity of some kind creating it.

[jcribb16]

Quote from queenofnines:
We did not come from apes.  We share a common ancestor - as does all life on Earth.  We split off into different species and evolved at different rates, adapting to our unique environments.  Does that make sense now??

Would you please clarify how you say we split off into different species? I totally get the "biological classification" and "taxonomic rank" so I know the line-up on that.  And if we supposedly all started off from 1 organism, then who made the organism in the first place? It sure didn't just appear without a deity of some kind creating it.

You've got that right!!!!!

[teflonfanatic]

You're scared of hell aren't you?

Not in the slightest.

Well you should be but why do you keep bringing hell up? Who are you trying to convince, Us or yourself?

Why do you all keep ignoring it?  It's a horrible aspect of your religion, and you know it!

Ok, I think I understand her a little better now. Other then the hypocritical synagogue of Satan she grew up at she needs three things.


Someone to show her and teach her the validity of the bile stones and all.

2. To tell her why the malediction(slavary, wars etc) was needed and then tell her how the blessings(rewards) overshadow it all.

3.  Show her according to the bible that hell is just the common grave of mankind, people get resurrected out of hell.

I'll work on the third one you guys(the christians) work on the first too ok??!!! 

[queenofnines]

Ok, I think I understand her a little better now. Other then the hypocritical synagogue of Satan she grew up at she needs three things.

Are you referring to me?  If so, your reply looks quite wacky as I wasn't raised in ANY religion.

Someone to show her and teach her the validity of the bile stones and all.

The Bible is too riddled with contradictions, logical fallacies, scientific inconsistencies, man-made adaptions, anonymity, plagiarism, human barbarism, etc. to be classified anywhere near the category of "valid".

To tell her why the malediction(slavary, wars etc) was needed

Yes, because that's THE BEST an all-powerful creator of the universe could do!

Show her according to the bible that hell is just the common grave of mankind, people get resurrected out of hell.

So you're saying I only have to suffer for 9485723618821879210 years before heavenly father forgives me?  Aw, what a sweetheart.

[Falconer02]

Ok, I think I understand her a little better now. Other then the hypocritical synagogue of Satan she grew up at she needs three things.


Someone to show her and teach her the validity of the bile stones and all.

2. To tell her why the malediction(slavary, wars etc) was needed and then tell her how the blessings(rewards) overshadow it all.

3.  Show her according to the bible that hell is just the common grave of mankind, people get resurrected out of hell.

I'll work on the third one you guys(the christians) work on the first too ok??!!!

*sigh* 

[teflonfanatic]

Ok, I think I understand her a little better now. Other then the hypocritical synagogue of Satan she grew up at she needs three things.

Are you referring to me?  If so, your reply looks quite wacky as I wasn't raised in ANY religion.

Someone to show her and teach her the validity of the bile stones and all.

The Bible is too riddled with contradictions, logical fallacies, scientific inconsistencies, man-made adaptions, anonymity, plagiarism, human barbarism, etc. to be classified anywhere near the category of "valid".

To tell her why the malediction(slavary, wars etc) was needed

Yes, because that's THE BEST an all-powerful creator of the universe could do!

Show her according to the bible that hell is just the common grave of mankind, people get resurrected out of hell.

So you're saying I only have to suffer for 9485723618821879210 years before heavenly father forgives me?  Aw, what a sweetheart.

No you don't suffer that's actually not true you just sleep for all eternity, no burning in hellfire or anything like that, unless you turn to god, then you can live forever.

Ask one question at a time(be a sarcastic and condescending as you want) but ask one question none thless and i'll answer it the best I can^_^

[armychick09h]

i understand religion is a hot topic. But to get nasty in a debate. instead of being open with ones opinion.
If someone doesnt believe in hell and you do, to sit there and say they will rot in it, what will that accomplish?
to show your nasty side?
i admit i do it too,by doing it too i mean get heated and try to pursuade a person to my beliefs.
but not once do i sit there and get nasty with that person.
and if its not being nasty, maybe put it in a better way or explain it to where people know its not meant to be nasty.
Forums cant show emotions.

but it is interesting hearing everyones side on God. 

[armychick09h]

If someone doesnt believe in hell and you do, to sit there and say they will rot in it, what will that accomplish?
to show your nasty side

I never said they would rot in hell but I said if they don't believe in God they will rot in the ground, it's the truth...ask any atheist what happens to their body when they die! They will say rot in the ground or burn in flames i.e. cremation.

im sorry i misintrepret that. But i'm not saying just tht in general. but alot of religion topics people become so nasty with each other and i dont understand why if it is here for others. And i looked at the athiest approach once. I dont think athiest dont believe in nothing. Just not God. Cause everyone needs to believe in something.it keeps us going. I may not believe in the Christian God. But i believe in something.

[bschumacher]

Atheist, Muslim, Methodist, or Catholic, it doesn't matter. A decent person respects others' beliefs, unless those beliefs involve burning Tipeeing on someone's  holy book, blowing up people, stoning women, burning crosses, picketing funerals, or other destructive acts. Rabbi Michael Lerner (Tikkun), Rev. Jim Wallis (Sojourners), and that moderate Muslim Imam who is trying to build in God. They are all highly intelligent, rational men who are forces for good in our country. They certainly aren't "retards."

[sflynt]

Some people just don't know how to debate, it was a common complaint of mine when I first came in here, that people can't discuss or debate anything without name calling or being mean about it..I wish I could debate and discuss but unless some intelligent opposition comes on here then I don't see that happening.

Really? hmm...interesting...

Dumb...
Great minds think alike...so um...y'all are dumb, if you can't see where I am coming from.

[jordandog]

I wish I could debate and discuss but unless some intelligent opposition comes on here then I don't see that happening.

If you are the odd man out in D&D, and usually the only one who is, then I honestly do NOT think it's a matter of no intelligent people being here - you know that too, marie. You have been told before that you do contribute at times, you do make good/valid points at times, but you get way off track when you let your emotions start running your thinking. We all let our emotions enter into it because they are a part of us, especially with certain topics, but emotions are NOT the basis of our thoughts and opinions. There is a huge difference when anyone 'debates' on a strictly emotional level - then it is no longer a debate or discussion, it's a 'personal platform' to preach and dictate from. That doesn't work for you or anyone else.

[jcribb16]

I wish I could debate and discuss but unless some intelligent opposition comes on here then I don't see that happening.

If you are the odd man out in D&D, and usually the only one who is, then I honestly do NOT think it's a matter of no intelligent people being here - you know that too, marie. You have been told before that you do contribute at times, you do make good/valid points at times, but you get way off track when you let your emotions start running your thinking. We all let our emotions enter into it because they are a part of us, especially with certain topics, but emotions are NOT the basis of our thoughts and opinions. There is a huge difference when anyone 'debates' on a strictly emotional level - then it is no longer a debate or discussion, it's a 'personal platform' to preach and dictate from. That doesn't work for you or anyone else.

Well put, jordandog!  I can honestly say it has happened to me when I get the rebuttals given back to me as mean or mocked, etc.  People can be nice and level-headed for awhile, then after that, here comes the "emotional level" and things really get off track because of the "preaching," etc.  I should just back off and cool down, and I usually do.  It takes a lot to rile me.  But recently it was like I just couldn't cool down without putting my two cents back at them.  I'm very glad the situation finally calmed down. I enjoy debating, not being put down and trying to "screech" at each other!

[Cuppycake]

i understand religion is a hot topic. But to get nasty in a debate. instead of being open with ones opinion.
If someone doesnt believe in hell and you do, to sit there and say they will rot in it, what will that accomplish?
to show your nasty side?
i admit i do it too,by doing it too i mean get heated and try to pursuade a person to my beliefs.
but not once do i sit there and get nasty with that person.
and if its not being nasty, maybe put it in a better way or explain it to where people know its not meant to be nasty.
Forums cant show emotions.

but it is interesting hearing everyones side on God. 

She has mental issues and demands attention. Talking to her only makes her worse.

[queenofnines]

Cuppycake, your Halloween-themed avatar is adorable!