Whoa, whoa there, my fellow US citizens...this country was not, I repeat
NOT founded as a Christian nation...
Go here:
http://www.archives.gov/exhibits/charters/constitution_transcript.html and really read the constitution. Mention of religion? Article VI where it says:
The Senators and Representatives before mentioned, and the Members of the several State Legislatures, and all executive and judicial Officers, both of the United States and of the several States, shall be bound by Oath or Affirmation, to support this Constitution; but no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States. Here is the original oath of office administered to George Washington:
I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States. http://memory.loc.gov/ammem/pihtml/pioaths.htmlThen, not again until the First Amendment.
In fact, in Article IV, Section 4, it reads:
The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government, and shall protect each of them against Invasion; and on Application of the Legislature, or of the Executive (when the Legislature cannot be convened), against domestic Violence. What is meant by a Republican form of Government? Check this out, by my man Plato
http://classics.mit.edu/Plato/republic.html So, how can we explain "In G-d we trust" and "One Nation, Under g-d"?
In 1942, there was an Act of Congress establishing the pledge of Allegiance. Twelve years later, in 1954 "under g-d" was added. "In G-d we Trust" became the national motto in, surprise surprise, 1956. Something important to remember about this time period in our history is that during this time, there was something going on called the Cold War and the scare tactics of a man named Joseph McCarthy.
The most important thing to remember, though, about our country's origins is the fact that the colonists came here looking for religious freedom. So, why would men that were concerned with being able to worship their faith freely try to impose upon this new country of theirs a religious dogma? Our founding fathers were men who had religious faith; however, they were very careful to say "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof, or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances." American citizens can worship any way they want to, as long as they are peaceable about it. This is why there are no laws making protests outside abortion clinics illegal and why the KKK can have rallies...yes, religious groups are behind those, too.
...and thank you, Jordandog and queenofnines for your your statements on the other topics in this thread.
...uh, and incidentally, I'm one of g-d's children, too. In fact, I'm one of g-d's chosen people. I'm also the one that brought up the topic in the first place (after Jordandog) of why would g-d deliver a warning instead of removing one of g-d's children from harm. I'm sure any parent would intervene on behalf of their child
should they have the opportunity and ability to do so....and it still sounds like a bunch of victim blaming going on here in this thread.
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