This is why there is a God

[Lusie]

Sometimes it does not hurt to actually listen to another persons point of view. With you though it is hard to tell because I have seen you switch back and forth between a god and no god issues. I am not doubting you in your opinion of him and to most he is there. I have come to trust in myself and those around me. I know everything happens for a reason. I am the one that can get myself a job I am the one that can get myself a place to live I am the one that gets my food. And for most of the things I receive from all of this I thank the animals and the plants that had to give their lives for me to be able to survive. You may say that HE is the reason they are here but I believe more in Evolution.

[jordandog]

all Science is doing is giving you an understanding of how God did it and what God did and what things he used

It's statements such as this one that show how absolutely out of the league you really are as far as actual intelligence and rational thinking. Please, do NOT come back with your "I have an IQ of 174" foolishness.

[Lusie]

all Science is doing is giving you an understanding of how God did it and what God did and what things he used

It's statements such as this one that show how absolutely out of the league you really are as far as actual intelligence and rational thinking. Please, do NOT come back with your "I have an IQ of 174" foolishness.

You have to wonder what other believers would say...I mean if it was retarded to believe in God, why do so many do it?

Hun please quit putting words in our mouths. Jor never said it was retarded. Just trying to say maybe you should research something before you say it.

[Lusie]

Actually was not that far off the topic. But I will leave you be as long as you leave me and my opinions be. To you there is a certain G.. To me there is another. I just do not have faith in the pict that you linked that it was the act of HIM. That is what we were all discussing.

[queenofnines]

I see you're trying to suck all the beauty out of life again.

No she isnt she never said there was not any beauty. She only stated what Science has proven.

Thank you, Lusie!  It is in my opinion that viewing this life as "the doormat where you wipe your feet before getting to your real life" (a.k.a. heaven) is what REALLY sucks all the beauty of of life.

That and having Heavenly Father wave his magic wand 7 times to create everything instead of our rich, shared heritage through evolution.

[queenofnines]

I mean if it was retarded to believe in God, why do so many do it?

"Strength in numbers" means nothing.  "Strength in numbers" has been wrong many times in the past.

[queenofnines]

Well you guys sure seem to have all the answers...

Actually, it is the religious that claim to have all the answers ("god did it").  Whatever scientists can't yet explain - god did it.  Like that answers anything... 

so then you could also understand and scientifically have an answer to why people believe in God or choose to believe in God and it has nothing to do with how intelligent or unintelligent someone is.

It's quite simple: remember that most of today's religions got started before cars, before electricity, before the Internet, before modern medicine...and back then it was quite commonplace to invent god(s) for the events our ancestors couldn't explain.  People used to fervently believe in gods that threw lightning, but those gods are dead now.  Why?  Because we know now how lightning actually works!

Also, religion is like a mind virus.  Most people are pretty sucky at dealing with their own mortality, and religions offers the perfect (albeit false) distraction.  Wondering why other animals don't have gods or worry about the afterlife?  It's because their brains haven't evolved to the degree of awareness that we have yet.

Our advanced intelligence got to the point that we realized, "This life is all I have??  I don't want that!  That can't be right!!  Let me just say there's this happy place you go after you die; yeah, that sounds good!"

Based on NO.EVIDENCE.WHATSOEVER.

[jordandog]

Well you guys sure seem to have all the answers...

Actually, it is the religious that claim to have all the answers ("god did it").  Whatever scientists can't yet explain - god did it.  Like that answers anything... 

so then you could also understand and scientifically have an answer to why people believe in God or choose to believe in God and it has nothing to do with how intelligent or unintelligent someone is.

It's quite simple: remember that most of today's religions got started before cars, before electricity, before the Internet, before modern medicine...and back then it was quite commonplace to invent god(s) for the events our ancestors couldn't explain.  People used to fervently believe in gods that threw lightning, but those gods are dead now.  Why?  Because we know now how lightning actually works!

Also, religion is like a mind virus.  Most people are pretty sucky at dealing with their own mortality, and religions offers the perfect (albeit false) distraction.  Wondering why other animals don't have gods or worry about the afterlife?  It's because their brains haven't evolved to the degree of awareness that we have yet.

Our advanced intelligence got to the point that we realized, "This life is all I have??  I don't want that!  That can't be right!!  Let me just say there's this happy place you go after you die; yeah, that sounds good!"

Based on NO.EVIDENCE.WHATSOEVER.

Good post, queen. This from you:"Whatever scientists can't yet explain - god did it."
That is a great example of the God of the gaps argument in use.
a) There is a gap in understanding of or being able to explain some aspect of the natural or scientific world.
So they move on to:
b) Then that proves the cause and explanation must be supernatural ie from god.

Lusie, thanks for saying what you did. I did not, never have, and never will say someone who believes in god is 'retarded'. I noticed though there is now a new thread on that.

[sflynt]

I personally don't think this cat having "cat" on it means that there is a God. Just like I don't believe seeing Jesus' face on a potato chip means it was God's doing. Its just coincidence.  I do think this was pretty cool though

[oonamas]

What kind of two bit magician do you think your god is?! LMAO. A cat - with patterns in it's fur - that kind of looks like it says cat! That is probably the weakest and most irrelevant argument anyone has ever made for the existence of god. Congratulations. The kitten is adorable tho! It sure put a smile on this atheists face. The world really is a beautiful place.

P.S. Brush up on statistics and then consider how many kittens have been born. And photographed. Refer to lolcats if necessary. Laugh heartily. At yourself.