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jordandog

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God did not create the universe, says Hawking
« on: September 03, 2010, 05:21:29 pm »
By Michael Holden – Thu Sep 2, 9:08 am ET
LONDON (Reuters) – God did not create the universe and the "Big Bang" was an inevitable consequence of the laws of physics, the eminent British theoretical physicist Stephen Hawking argues in a new book.

In "The Grand Design," co-authored with U.S. physicist Leonard Mlodinow, Hawking says a new series of theories made a creator of the universe redundant, according to the Times newspaper which published extracts on Thursday.

"Because there is a law such as gravity, the universe can and will create itself from nothing. Spontaneous creation is the reason there is something rather than nothing, why the universe exists, why we exist," Hawking writes.

"It is not necessary to invoke God to light the blue touch paper and set the universe going."

http://tinyurl.com/26pkrmg
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Re: God did not create the universe, says Hawking
« Reply #1 on: September 03, 2010, 05:38:26 pm »
I find Hawking fascinating and his writings thought provoking. Just saw and read this when I got on the computer. Agree or disagree, the man is brilliant IMO.
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Re: God did not create the universe, says Hawking
« Reply #2 on: September 03, 2010, 06:58:14 pm »
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"Because there is a law such as gravity...

Because there is a law....hmmm I wonder where that law came from?

Hawking also claimed we would be attacked by hostile extraterrestrials. Fascinating.
« Last Edit: September 03, 2010, 07:05:22 pm by shernajwine »


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Re: God did not create the universe, says Hawking
« Reply #3 on: September 03, 2010, 08:20:23 pm »
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"Because there is a law such as gravity...

Because there is a law....hmmm I wonder where that law came from?

Hawking also claimed we would be attacked by hostile extraterrestrials. Fascinating.

LOL LOL LOL
« Last Edit: September 03, 2010, 08:22:08 pm by Annella »

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Re: God did not create the universe, says Hawking
« Reply #4 on: September 03, 2010, 08:40:57 pm »
Dude, he can't even walk.  He has no credibility.  He has a degenerative disease that has been getting worse since he was 17. (wiki)
He went on Larry King and said Aliens are coming. In a year he'll come up with some crazy story about a guy being born magically and being killed and rising form the dead.......

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Re: God did not create the universe, says Hawking
« Reply #5 on: September 03, 2010, 11:08:29 pm »
so if the universe created itself, what about the laws of physics? or did the universe just appear and if so how?
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Re: God did not create the universe, says Hawking
« Reply #6 on: September 03, 2010, 11:23:38 pm »
Fascinating! I should check out this book next time I'm out and about.

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Because there is a law....hmmm I wonder where that law came from?

We observed it.

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Hawking also claimed we would be attacked by hostile extraterrestrials. Fascinating.
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He went on Larry King and said Aliens are coming.

Ehhh....I think his point was that we should not look for them because it could pose a threat to our existence if they were more intelligent than us (something we've been prone to doing in our history to eachother and separate species). Obviously just speculation, but he does believe other life is out there. He never said aliens were on their way to destroy us. Remember that overall he was trying to entertain a general audience. He's a cool guy.
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Re: God did not create the universe, says Hawking
« Reply #7 on: September 03, 2010, 11:32:09 pm »
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We observed it.

LOL Well this is the first time I have heard of observation creating laws....interesting.


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Re: God did not create the universe, says Hawking
« Reply #8 on: September 03, 2010, 11:50:21 pm »
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LOL Well this is the first time I have heard of observation creating laws....interesting

Heheheh...it's just the way you worded what I quoted. I saw my opportunity to be a smartass and I took it!

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so if the universe created itself, what about the laws of physics? or did the universe just appear and if so how?

Let's all go ask Hawking! ROAD TRIP! Orrrrr wait...we could just get the book! I know I'll be looking for it. Atleast to skim through it.
« Last Edit: September 04, 2010, 07:57:21 am by Falconer02 »

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Re: God did not create the universe, says Hawking
« Reply #9 on: September 04, 2010, 11:28:16 am »
Dude, he can't even walk.  He has no credibility.

 ??? Are you being serious?  If you are, to that I say dude, you are just some guy on a forum.  It is you who has no credibility.

Hawking is like Einstein.  Get with the program.   :angry7:

Note to jordandog: I know on Yahoo they were trying to phrase it like "Hawking changed his views on God".  Uh, no he didn't.  He's been an atheist for years...
"It is far better to grasp the universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring."
-- Carl Sagan

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Re: God did not create the universe, says Hawking
« Reply #10 on: September 04, 2010, 11:32:07 am »
By Michael Holden – Thu Sep 2, 9:08 am ET
LONDON (Reuters) – God did not create the universe and the "Big Bang" was an inevitable consequence of the laws of physics, the eminent British theoretical physicist Stephen Hawking argues in a new book.

In "The Grand Design," co-authored with U.S. physicist Leonard Mlodinow, Hawking says a new series of theories made a creator of the universe redundant, according to the Times newspaper which published extracts on Thursday.

"Because there is a law such as gravity, the universe can and will create itself from nothing. Spontaneous creation is the reason there is something rather than nothing, why the universe exists, why we exist," Hawking writes.

"It is not necessary to invoke God to light the blue touch paper and set the universe going."

http://tinyurl.com/26pkrmg

Sorry, I just don't buy it.

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Re: God did not create the universe, says Hawking
« Reply #11 on: September 04, 2010, 11:38:38 am »
By Michael Holden – Thu Sep 2, 9:08 am ET
LONDON (Reuters) – God did not create the universe and the "Big Bang" was an inevitable consequence of the laws of physics, the eminent British theoretical physicist Stephen Hawking argues in a new book.

In "The Grand Design," co-authored with U.S. physicist Leonard Mlodinow, Hawking says a new series of theories made a creator of the universe redundant, according to the Times newspaper which published extracts on Thursday.

"Because there is a law such as gravity, the universe can and will create itself from nothing. Spontaneous creation is the reason there is something rather than nothing, why the universe exists, why we exist," Hawking writes.

"It is not necessary to invoke God to light the blue touch paper and set the universe going."

http://tinyurl.com/26pkrmg

Sorry, I just don't buy it.


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Re: God did not create the universe, says Hawking
« Reply #12 on: September 04, 2010, 11:44:49 am »
Hawking is brilliant, but that doesn't mean he's right about everything.  Even Oprah is wrong sometimes.

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Re: God did not create the universe, says Hawking
« Reply #13 on: September 04, 2010, 12:10:29 pm »
The world/universe and how is was created is a mystery and therefore we are always looking for answers..when we do not find an answer we make up stuff like God etc.

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Re: God did not create the universe, says Hawking
« Reply #14 on: September 04, 2010, 12:33:25 pm »
I disagree with Hawking.

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