dosen't the story of jesus sound like hercules??

[502mania]

You think Hercules is the only vague link to the story of Jesus? I'll respond in length to this thread later unless someone beats me to it.

there are numerous similar, i just chose hercules because, i thought more people would know about him than any other

[dell9031]

 

[freepcmoney]

him being half man half god and all. christianity seems like a big pile of stolen beliefs ofom other religons anyone agree??

You WILL FIND OUT-----come JUDGEMENT DAY.

[502mania]

him being half man half god and all. christianity seems like a big pile of stolen beliefs ofom other religons anyone agree??

You WILL FIND OUT-----come JUDGEMENT DAY.

there is NO true religion. there is one god. and i've said this before. he's not making a list and checking it twice for who accepted christ. And if he did. tell me this -the native americans weren't christain, they never heard of jesus. did god make them suffer for eternity for not knowing? and if so then you're saying he is a demon

[Falconer02]

You WILL FIND OUT-----come JUDGEMENT DAY.

Did anyone else immediately get a picture of Arnold as the Terminator in their head?

there is NO true religion. there is one god. and i've said this before. he's not making a list and checking it twice for who accepted christ. And if he did. tell me this -the native americans weren't christain, they never heard of jesus. did god make them suffer for eternity for not knowing? and if so then you're saying he is a demon

You seem to define god though. And yes, the Christian god Yahweh is a very evil deity despite what the worshipers say. I could go into it if you wish-- right after I make a post about the original post.

[Sabrinia]

um maybe just died for millions of people and hercules help me so kinda

[shernajwine]

was Jesus Christ just a CopyCat Savior Myth?

If you are interested in the TRUTH click the link. 

http://www.christian-thinktank.com/copycatwho1.html

[Falconer02]

was Jesus Christ just a CopyCat Savior Myth?

If you are interested in the TRUTH click the link.

Skimmed it. Typical creationist work-arounds. Take advantage of potential flaws in stories that don't fit Jesus' tale, capitalize on those and then unlink them and use those as cannon-fodder, and then preach about the love the Christ figure gave by saying the things that did and do not happen. To anyone who is skeptical of the supernatural claims of this mythical character, here is a breakdown of the mythical paradigm (Lord Raglan's hero pattern)-

1. Hero's mother is a royal virgin;
2. His father is a king, and
3. Often a near relative of his mother, but
4. The circumstances of his conception are unusual, and
5. He is also reputed to be the son of a god.
6. At birth an attempt is made, usually by his father or his maternal grand father to kill him, but
7. he is spirited away, and
8. Reared by foster -parents in a far country.
9. We are told nothing of his childhood, but
10. On reaching manhood he returns or goes to his future Kingdom.
11. After a victory over the king and/or a giant, dragon, or wild beast,
12. He marries a princess, often the daughter of his predecessor and
13. And becomes king.
14. For a time he reigns uneventfully and
15. Prescribes laws, but
16. Later he loses favor with the gods and/or his subjects, and
17. Is driven from the throne and city, after which
18. He meets with a mysterious death,
19. Often at the top of a hill,
20. His children, if any do not succeed him.
21. His body is not buried, but nevertheless
22. He has one or more holy sepulchres.


Now obviously this isn't a perfect fit for Jesus' tale, but many elements fit so well that they are inarguable. Many characters throughout history (many of them far before Christianity) use this set and many of the aspects in them are given different emotions and meanings, but overall this pattern is still at the foundation. The coolest thing is that you see this story structure even used today.

"When we say that Jesus was produced without sexual union, was crucified and died, and rose again, and ascended to heaven, we propound nothing new or different from what you believe regarging those who you call the sons of Jupiter"
- Justin Martyr, Church Father

But for more information of problems with the myth, check out this video- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Od2aRld-jvo (special thanks to Queenofnines for posting it in another thread).

[shernajwine]

Skimmed it. Typical creationist work-arounds

Typical atheistic/agnostic statement. Use the word creationist as an insult and cloud the issue materialistic philosophy.

[Falconer02]

Typical atheistic/agnostic statement. Use the word creationist as an insult and cloud the issue materialistic philosophy.

Clouding the supernatural (the impossible) with logic does not make sense-- reality removes the fog. It works the other way.

[502mania]

You WILL FIND OUT-----come JUDGEMENT DAY.

Did anyone else immediately get a picture of Arnold as the Terminator in their head?

lol. that's exactly what i saw when i read that. But i believe at one time. a messiah may have came to earth. i believe all the hero stories originate from his or vice-versa. or maybe every religion just has a messiah/profit that they follow the teachings of.

[shernajwine]

Typical atheistic/agnostic statement. Use the word creationist as an insult and cloud the issue materialistic philosophy.

Clouding the supernatural (the impossible) with logic does not make sense-- reality removes the fog. It works the other way.

Claiming that the supernatural is the impossible is materialistic philosophy not fact.

[502mania]

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Claiming that the supernatural is the impossible is materialistic philosophy not fact.
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i definately agree with this. not everything without explanation is impossible

[queenofnines]

<<Today's "God" is just as imaginary as were the historical gods. The fact that millions of people worship a god is meaningless.

The "God" and the "Jesus" that Christians worship today are actually amalgams formed out of ancient pagan gods. The idea of a "virgin birth", "burial in a rock tomb", "resurrection after 3 days" and "eating of body and drinking of blood" had nothing to do with Jesus. All of the rituals in Christianity are completely man-made. Christianity is a snow ball that rolled over a dozen pagan religions. As the snowball grew, it freely attached pagan rituals in order to be more palatable to converts. You can find accounts like these in popular literature:

-- "The vestiges of pagan religion in Christian symbology are undeniable. Egyptian sun disks became the halos of Catholic saints. Pictograms of Isis nursing her miraculously conceived son Horus became the blueprint for our modern images of the Virgin Mary nursing Baby Jesus. And virtually all the elements of the Catholic ritual - the miter, the altar, the doxology, and communion, the act of "God-eating" - were taken directly from earlier pagan mystery religions."

-- "Nothing in Christianity is original. The pre-Christian God Mithras - called the Son of God and the Light of the World - was born on December 25, died, was buried in a rock tomb, and then resurrected in three days. By the way, December 25 is also the birthday or Osiris, Adonis, and Dionysus. The newborn Krishna was presented with gold, frankincense, and myrrh. Even Christianity's weekly holy day was stolen from the pagans.>>

http://www.godisimaginary.com/i3.htm

[queenofnines]

10 Reasons why Superman is better than Jesus

I’ve made a comparative list so that I can definitively prove that the last son of Krypton is superior to the King of Kings in almost every way.

1) Superman has saved the planet for destruction numerous times. Jesus has threatened to return and bring upon the end of the earth with him, but so far is a f**king “no-show”.

2) Jesus performed a few miracles, but Superman can shoot laser beams out of his eyes, he can fly, is indestructible, and can see through everything except lead. In one movie he turned back time. How awesome is that?

3) Jesus may have died for your sins, but Superman died to protect us from an intergalactic killing machine called Doomsday.

4) When Jesus died, he was resurrected 3 days later and then abruptly left, telling his disciples he’d be back within their lifetimes (an obvious lie). Superman died, was in stasis for a while, and emerged with long glorious 90’s hair. Unlike Jesus, however, Superman stuck around and has been busy keeping the world safe from evil.

5) Although not a God, Superman still risks his life all the time trying to combat super villains. Jesus, on the other hand, is apparently all powerful, and yet refuses to do something as basic as healing amputees.

6) Superman can move mountains. Jesus claims praying to him will accomplish the same feat, but no noticeable effects from prayer have ever been measured.

7) Superman is an expert in dozens of languages, and is an accomplished journalist. Jesus never left any writings, or evidence of any of his works.

8 ) Superman hooked up with the insanely hot Lois Lane, while the only women that showed any interest in Jesus were all prostitutes.

9) Jesus said “But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me” (Luke 19:27). Superman, on the other hand, has a strict code of conduct that forbids him to kill anyone.

10) If you fell out of your apartment window and cried for help, Superman would try and save you. Not only will Jesus not even bother to save you; he will send you to hell for all eternity if you don’t believe in him.

BY http://www.thegoodatheist.net/2009/06/superman-better-than-jesus/