Fallout of Hate Is Spreading Across America from 9/11 Site

[Falconer02]

I don't care, you are rude and uncouth along with some others!! I am human but I am pyschic but that doesn't make me better than anyone, of course I will hold myself higher than all other people. I would never talk down to myself or say mean things to myself.

Shutup, troll. Go back to Professor X or something.

wow. you honestly have zero reputation on this forum because of posts like these. that was judgement in itself, at least others on this forum don't try to claim to be anything but human while you hold yourself above us with your psychic abilities.

Hey Survey-- Like I told Alyia earlier, don't bother arguing with this village idiot. She derails threads with unnecessary drama. Your best bet is to just hit "ignore" under her name like I just did and don't take that off. You have no idea how many people I've told this to in the past. I'm just trying to save you a headache.

Falconer, you know, you are absolutely right.  Maybe the media has begun to wake up a bit about him.  It's supposed to be news fairly, anyway, isn't it?  Thank you for making me delve more into this!.  P.S.  I just noticed you've reached your 1000th post and beyond!! That's super!

Hey thanks for pointing that out, man! I didn't even notice! And yeah, Obama is getting negative publicity and his approval rating is slowly going down. I don't agree with him on many things, but from what I've heard, he wants to actually start pulling out of the middle east very soon so I predict his rating will go up a bit. If this is true, I imagine this will happen around election time  But, as Teddy Roosevelt said, it's completely american to criticize you president; standing by without questioning is treasonous.

...And my innernats is down so I can't post much for a while.

[Falconer02]

It's about time they wake up and expose him unamerican ideals for what they are, unamerican, and quit tiptoeing around him just because him becoming president is controversial.

Ehh...I can kind of agree with you here. A lot of people voted for him for superficial reasons. But if you're referring to things such as healthcare reform as being unamerican, my hands are tied. A lot of people point to it being socialist, which I can see, but something really needed to be done about it. I've learned this from experience (700$ to talk to a doctor for 5 minutes? wtf!?). Desperate times call for desperate measures! I really hope this isn't a permanent thing for this country; I think the smart approach would to have it take full effect, which in turn will force the insurance companies to lower their prices and customer-background standards, and then slowly remove the reform once there's good competition between those companies. Of course this is just speculation but hey, it could work.

[mynevaeh]

Wow this was a very informative and insightful post.  Thanks for posting ~ I would have to agree that the world is taking a terrible turn.

[jordandog]

This project is being moved to another location after a Florida Pastor threatened to burn Korans on 9/11.

No, that is not correct. This is from one hour ago:
The Guardian2010-09-09

ANTONIO GONZALEZ Associated Press Writer= GAINESVILLE, Fla. (AP) — A Florida imam says that no deal has been reached to move the site of a mosque at the site of ground zero in exchange for a Florida minister to call off plans to burn Qurans. Imam Muhammad Musri tells The Associated Press that what he offered was a meeting among the Rev. Terry Jones, the New York imam planning the Islamic center and himself to talk about the mosque location. Musri is president of the Islamic Society of Central Florida. He says he told Jones that he does not believe the mosque should not be there and would do everything in his power to make sure it is moved

[tantricia44]

I don't think so. 13 is not old enough to reason with difficult adult subjects such as what this forum is about. You can't even do surveys unless you are 18yrs old. Check out the rules please. You are barely a preteen & too young to discuss these types of issues. Don't try to grow up so fast. Youth will gone fast enough. Just enjoy being a kid.

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[tantricia44]

@tantricia44:

I don't think so. 13 is not old enough to reason with difficult adult subjects such as what this forum is about. You can't even do surveys unless you are 18yrs old. Check out the rules please. You are barely a preteen & too young to discuss these types of issues. Don't try to grow up so fast. Youth will gone fast enough. Just enjoy being a kid.

Maybe I misunderstood this and you were not talking to marieelissa about HER age, but she is 28 years old, not 13. If you were just reiterating the TOS, my bad, but it sounds as if you think SHE is that young.

It doesn't matter how old she is. She has a mind of child. Look at her what she says. I feel like, I'm conversing with my 5year old niece!

[tantricia44]

Most of the media is so behind Obama, they refuse to show anything wrong with him, that's why.  That's what is also strange.  If it was Bush, or anyone else like Bush, they would be digging up the dirt and putting it out there.  I'm just seeing the overall picture of what's unfolding for the future of the U.S., and it's a shame that many people can't see that. This is truly a serious situation.

I've seen plenty of dirt on Obama in the media. Especially after the oil spill. And it's not limited to Fox News either! Who would have known!?

Oh and Alyia72-- don't respond to Marie. She's the forum troll. I'm trying to save you a headache; don't waste your time like most of us have with her. She's crazy and not worth it.

I agree with falconer02. She has a mental age of a 13 year old. Not mature yet for such serious discussions.

[tantricia44]

It's about time they wake up and expose him unamerican ideals for what they are, unamerican, and quit tiptoeing around him just because him becoming president is controversial.

Ehh...I can kind of agree with you here. A lot of people voted for him for superficial reasons. But if you're referring to things such as healthcare reform as being unamerican, my hands are tied. A lot of people point to it being socialist, which I can see, but something really needed to be done about it. I've learned this from experience (700$ to talk to a doctor for 5 minutes? wtf!?). Desperate times call for desperate measures! I really hope this isn't a permanent thing for this country; I think the smart approach would to have it take full effect, which in turn will force the insurance companies to lower their prices and customer-background standards, and then slowly remove the reform once there's good competition between those companies. Of course this is just speculation but hey, it could work.

How is Obama unamerican?Whether or not you voted for him,nobody can turn around what others have done to america decades & decades ago in a year or2. What r you talking about tip toeing around him? The media has been dumping on him since he became president! Everyone has negative opinions on what he's doing but everytime he try's to fix something, everyone &/or republicans are bitching about it! What do you want from him? It seems like he has to be better than all the other president's be4 him. Why, b/c he's nether black nor white? Why does he have to be perfect when all others had dark secrets in their closets during their presidency? If your bitching about what he has or has not done shut up because I don't see you contributing in the solutions. We are just a bunch of spoiled brat Americans that r crying b/c Daddy didn't get us what we wanted yet. Quit belly aching,get off your asses & support your president. Even if you didn't vote for he, he is still your president.

[SurveyMack10]

There are some bad christians on this forum...they make God look bad!!! 

wow. you honestly have zero reputation on this forum because of posts like these. that was judgement in itself, at least others on this forum don't try to claim to be anything but human while you hold yourself above us with your psychic abilities.

I don't care, you are rude and uncouth along with some others!! I am human but I am pyschic but that doesn't make me better than anyone, of course I will hold myself higher than all other people. I would never talk down to myself or say mean things to myself.

Does it take a psychic to realize that you just contradicted yourself? "that doesn't make me better than anyone...of course I hold myself higher than all other people" Read through what you say before you post it, it'll save you a lotta embarrassment.

[SurveyMack10]

It's about time they wake up and expose him unamerican ideals for what they are, unamerican, and quit tiptoeing around him just because him becoming president is controversial.

Ehh...I can kind of agree with you here. A lot of people voted for him for superficial reasons. But if you're referring to things such as healthcare reform as being unamerican, my hands are tied. A lot of people point to it being socialist, which I can see, but something really needed to be done about it. I've learned this from experience (700$ to talk to a doctor for 5 minutes? wtf!?). Desperate times call for desperate measures! I really hope this isn't a permanent thing for this country; I think the smart approach would to have it take full effect, which in turn will force the insurance companies to lower their prices and customer-background standards, and then slowly remove the reform once there's good competition between those companies. Of course this is just speculation but hey, it could work.

I'm not saying there didn't need to be a change...but his idea is a socialist one. Also, IDK why we would model our healthcare reform after plans of countries that come HERE because theirs doesn't work...

[SurveyMack10]

It's about time they wake up and expose him unamerican ideals for what they are, unamerican, and quit tiptoeing around him just because him becoming president is controversial.

Ehh...I can kind of agree with you here. A lot of people voted for him for superficial reasons. But if you're referring to things such as healthcare reform as being unamerican, my hands are tied. A lot of people point to it being socialist, which I can see, but something really needed to be done about it. I've learned this from experience (700$ to talk to a doctor for 5 minutes? wtf!?). Desperate times call for desperate measures! I really hope this isn't a permanent thing for this country; I think the smart approach would to have it take full effect, which in turn will force the insurance companies to lower their prices and customer-background standards, and then slowly remove the reform once there's good competition between those companies. Of course this is just speculation but hey, it could work.

How is Obama unamerican?Whether or not you voted for him,nobody can turn around what others have done to america decades & decades ago in a year or2. What r you talking about tip toeing around him? The media has been dumping on him since he became president! Everyone has negative opinions on what he's doing but everytime he try's to fix something, everyone &/or republicans are bitching about it! What do you want from him? It seems like he has to be better than all the other president's be4 him. Why, b/c he's nether black nor white? Why does he have to be perfect when all others had dark secrets in their closets during their presidency? If your bitching about what he has or has not done shut up because I don't see you contributing in the solutions. We are just a bunch of spoiled brat Americans that r crying b/c Daddy didn't get us what we wanted yet. Quit belly aching,get off your asses & support your president. Even if you didn't vote for he, he is still your president.

1st of all, lose the attitude. If you don't like my opinion you can address it in an adult manner.
2nd of all, I don't support almost all of his policies. I couldn't care less what race he is. In fact, he's not even fully black. People just make a big deal about it because he appears to be fully black. Don't try and make my come off as being shallow in my political beliefs when that is certainly not the case.
3rd, if Bush or any other President hadn't produced a birth certificate, had terrorist ties, or even had a fraction of the shady past Obama does it would be ALL OVER the news. The media hated on Bush so much, but Obama comes into office while we are in trillions of dollars of debt(not his fault) and begins SPENDING MORE MONEY. I disagree with that.
4th, many of his policies reflect socialism. Redistribution of wealth, he supports it. That is absurd and ABSOLUTELY unamerican. I don't think the government should be bailing out so many businesses either, because once they give money(that we don't have) to those businesses they get a say in how the business is ran(money is power), and that is another aspect of socialism.
5th, I never said he had to be perfect, I simply don't agree with him. I guess since I don't agree with you I should "shut up" though right? nice tough with the shut up by the way, really made you seem to have a valid point to make (sarcasm)

[tantricia44]

It's about time they wake up and expose him unamerican ideals for what they are, unamerican, and quit tiptoeing around him just because him becoming president is controversial.

Ehh...I can kind of agree with you here. A lot of people voted for him for superficial reasons. But if you're referring to things such as healthcare reform as being unamerican, my hands are tied. A lot of people point to it being socialist, which I can see, but something really needed to be done about it. I've learned this from experience (700$ to talk to a doctor for 5 minutes? wtf!?). Desperate times call for desperate measures! I really hope this isn't a permanent thing for this country; I think the smart approach would to have it take full effect, which in turn will force the insurance companies to lower their prices and customer-background standards, and then slowly remove the reform once there's good competition between those companies. Of course this is just speculation but hey, it could work.

How is Obama unamerican?Whether or not you voted for him,nobody can turn around what others have done to america decades & decades ago in a year or2. What r you talking about tip toeing around him? The media has been dumping on him since he became president! Everyone has negative opinions on what he's doing but everytime he try's to fix something, everyone &/or republicans are bitching about it! What do you want from him? It seems like he has to be better than all the other president's be4 him. Why, b/c he's nether black nor white? Why does he have to be perfect when all others had dark secrets in their closets during their presidency? If your bitching about what he has or has not done shut up because I don't see you contributing in the solutions. We are just a bunch of spoiled brat Americans that r crying b/c Daddy didn't get us what we wanted yet. Quit belly aching,get off your asses & support your president. Even if you didn't vote for he, he is still your president.

1st of all, lose the attitude. If you don't like my opinion you can address it in an adult manner.
2nd of all, I don't support almost all of his policies. I couldn't care less what race he is. In fact, he's not even fully black. People just make a big deal about it because he appears to be fully black. Don't try and make my come off as being shallow in my political beliefs when that is certainly not the case.
3rd, if Bush or any other President hadn't produced a birth certificate, had terrorist ties, or even had a fraction of the shady past Obama does it would be ALL OVER the news. The media hated on Bush so much, but Obama comes into office while we are in trillions of dollars of debt(not his fault) and begins SPENDING MORE MONEY. I disagree with that.
4th, many of his policies reflect socialism. Redistribution of wealth, he supports it. That is absurd and ABSOLUTELY unamerican. I don't think the government should be bailing out so many businesses either, because once they give money(that we don't have) to those businesses they get a say in how the business is ran(money is power), and that is another aspect of socialism.
5th, I never said he had to be perfect, I simply don't agree with him. I guess since I don't agree with you I should "shut up" though right? nice tough with the shut up by the way, really made you seem to have a valid point to make (sarcasm)

1. What do you care about my attitude? You don't know me & that's the way I express myself. 2. If you are not seeing both sides of the coin, then yes your politics is shallow. 3. enlighten me, what shady past does obama have? Look into your history books at all the crooked things past presidents had gotten away with & obama would look like an angelic alter boy. 4. America was looking so good economically until Bush#2 came into office.  Bush is part of the reason why we are in that trillion dollar debt. He took us into a war that we didn't need to be in & obama is just sweeping up the mess. Bush Allowed tax breaks to his rich friends & supporters. Obama had to spend more money to a) get the wall street back in the black & b) continue to fund a war that he didn't agree with in the first place. c) Also, had to use monies for other issues like the oil spill. I understand that you don't want wall street to get any monies to save the banks but you don't understand that if they all went out, everything would have been frozen. Money makes the world go round & we would have been in a depression! Obama may be the president but he has to deal with other states of government that usually block all of his ideas. A lot of the stuff he had done was not because he wanted it, it because of the agreement from all state of government. In short, he's had to compromise what he really wanted to happen & thus it always seem to come out short. 5. You've got to be totally nuts if you're saying obama is a socialist. He is totally opposite to that description. Again, one of his policies was to cut the tax breaks to the rich & give the middle class & the poor a change. The problem is that Obama has Republicans opposing every effort for this change. The republicans don't want change they just want to gain more seats in the house so that they can take over again. But remember every time a republican takes office the economy crashes due to their greed to be richer & keep the middle class & poor in the bottom. Take a look in your history & you'll see the the cyclic up & down cycles of the economy & I bet you that When a republican is in the white house the economy is in shits-ville. Usually destroying the good economy the previous president had up held. 6. No, to me it seems like they expect more from him than any of the other presidents before him. Like he has to be perfect to be accepted & I don't think it's right or fair. 7. I wasn't directly speaking to you alone to shut up! I was referring to all that want to *bleep* about what the president is doing or not doing but sit & do nothing to help solve problems. 8. This issue is not black & white & straight forward. There are a lot of gray areas & that's what makes it difficult for the president to get what policies you want to come true. His hands are usually tied due to disagreements between houses. If he had his way, we wouldn't call him president, we'd call him king & we would get what we want w/no barriers. Oh ya, if you're getting your news from Fox, I urge you to stop. That's the brainwashing station!!!!

[tantricia44]

I don't think so. 13 is not old enough to reason with difficult adult subjects such as what this forum is about. You can't even do surveys unless you are 18yrs old. Check out the rules please. You are barely a preteen & too young to discuss these types of issues. Don't try to grow up so fast. Youth will gone fast enough. Just enjoy being a kid.

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How do we know that you actually got adult permission? Anyway, I still think you're too young for this link.

I don't give a what about what you think...How do you know I didn't get adult permission? Get back to your room until you can play nice.

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[Falconer02]

Heyyyy now let's all play nice! This is just an argument after all. No need to get too personal!

I'm not saying there didn't need to be a change...but his idea is a socialist one. Also, IDK why we would model our healthcare reform after plans of countries that come HERE because theirs doesn't work...

I agree that it is socialist in nature but I wouldn't label him as all-out socialist just because of one contraversial issue. And yeah! I admit that this plan could damage us even more! The only thing I'm saying is that something needed to be done, and given that the republicans idea to give every person a 5,000$ deductable would be pointless in my eyes because just talking to a doctor for less than 5 minutes at an ER costs over 700$. Imagine what a surgery would cost for an uninsured person. Not to get too personal, but this is a major reason I haven't had surgery on my shoulder because I dislocated it and shredded the cartalidge ring.

As far as other countries healthcare goes, which ones are you referring to? I would speculate that a majority of uninsured people order their meds from Canada since they're a lot cheaper. Im on a small dosage of lamictal and it costs OVER 500$ for a 2 months supply from any pharmacy around me. If I order it from Canada, it's between 1-200$. So all that I'm saying is that our current system is completely broken. I'm curious of your own insight though-- if there is a better plan, what do you think it would be? What do you think that would work? I'm not trying to put you on the spot or anything; I don't know of any other viable plan myself.

How is Obama unamerican?

Pretty much because of my first sentence responding to Macks post.

[jcribb16]

Just because he is our president doesn't mean I have to like him or support his policies.  I don't like where he appears to be leading our country, be it socialist, or otherwise.  And since I vote in these elections, I have the right to complain, support, like, or not like.  Also, just because any person is our president doesn't mean that he/she is the right one for this country.  If we were to go socialist, are you saying you will still support him just because he is our president?  NOT ME!!!!!