Religion and Homosexuality

[shernajwine]

This logic and reason says extra-terrestrial beings could have done it as well.

Not unless you are willing to say that these extra-terrestrial beings are eternal beings. The buck has to stop at something that itself was not created and has the capability to create life "from scratch".

Asserting Yahweh did it is not  ID by definition.

You are correct about that. However, this is why ID is so vehemently rejected as scientific theory because if it is even considered then religion once again has a legitimate place to say God did it. ID says, intelligence did it, and scientists know that when that is accepted as a possibility, there is NO other logical explanation than God.

I personally AM saying it was God. I believe in Intelligent Design and that God is that designer.

The website I link to most often defends God and presents legitimate evidence. You can refuse it all you want. You have a choice to do so. It is just plainly obvious that you are closed minded about considering God to be Creator. That won't stop me from using it to present my side, so get used to it. 

[shernajwine]

Yahweh:

http://www.hisnameisyahweh.org/

Thanks for that Jcribb! Very interesting!

I watched a video awhile back that was talking about the name Yahweh. It is essentially 4 letters in Hebrew Y.H.v.H and in Hebrew is pronounced Yah Hay Vav Hay. Ancient rabbis believed that these letters were essentially the sound of breathing. They believed they were unpronounceable. He raises the question, is God's name the sound of breathing? He talks about how God breathed life into Adam and that same breath is in every human being. How in the bible the word breath is the same word for spirit

He talks about how the first thing a baby must do to make it is breathe? or say the name of God? When you die, you take your last breath? Or when you can no longer say the name of God, you die? When a person who doesn't believe in God is saying "There is no God", do we hear Yad Hay Vav Hay with every breath they take to make that statement?

It's an amazing video. Check it out! 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=REkFU4X5HXs

[jcribb16]

Yahweh:

http://www.hisnameisyahweh.org/

Thanks for that Jcribb! Very interesting!

I watched a video awhile back that was talking about the name Yahweh. It is essentially 4 letters in Hebrew Y.H.v.H and in Hebrew is pronounced Yah Hay Vav Hay. Ancient rabbis believed that these letters were essentially the sound of breathing. They believed they were unpronounceable. He raises the question, is God's name the sound of breathing? He talks about how God breathed life into Adam and that same breath is in every human being. How in the bible the word breath is the same word for spirit

He talks about how the first thing a baby must do to make it is breathe? or say the name of God? When you die, you take your last breath? Or when you can no longer say the name of God, you die? When a person who doesn't believe in God is saying "There is no God", do we hear Yad Hay Vav Hay with every breath they take to make that statement?

It's an amazing video. Check it out! 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=REkFU4X5HXs

Thanks, Sherna!  I have never really heard this before.  It's something to think about!

[Annella]

Yahweh:

http://www.hisnameisyahweh.org/

Thanks for that Jcribb! Very interesting!

I watched a video awhile back that was talking about the name Yahweh. It is essentially 4 letters in Hebrew Y.H.v.H and in Hebrew is pronounced Yah Hay Vav Hay. Ancient rabbis believed that these letters were essentially the sound of breathing. They believed they were unpronounceable. He raises the question, is God's name the sound of breathing? He talks about how God breathed life into Adam and that same breath is in every human being. How in the bible the word breath is the same word for spirit

He talks about how the first thing a baby must do to make it is breathe? or say the name of God? When you die, you take your last breath? Or when you can no longer say the name of God, you die? When a person who doesn't believe in God is saying "There is no God", do we hear Yad Hay Vav Hay with every breath they take to make that statement?

It's an amazing video. Check it out! 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=REkFU4X5HXs

Wow!  I'm going to use this.  Interesting to say the least.

[Falconer02]

The website I link to most often defends God and presents legitimate evidence. You can refuse it all you want. You have a choice to do so. It is just plainly obvious that you are closed minded about considering God to be Creator. That won't stop me from using it to present my side, so get used to it. 

So I'm the one who acknowledges the possibility of a deity or deities....but because I don't believe in your one defined and popular deity among thousands of others, I'm the closed minded one. Okay. Got it.

[SurveyMack10]

The website I link to most often defends God and presents legitimate evidence. You can refuse it all you want. You have a choice to do so. It is just plainly obvious that you are closed minded about considering God to be Creator. That won't stop me from using it to present my side, so get used to it. 

So I'm the one who acknowledges the possibility of a deity or deities....but because I don't believe in your one defined and popular deity among thousands of others, I'm the closed minded one. Okay. Got it.

Absolutely not, considering there is a God would include not bashing Christianity though and regarding it as a possibility.

[SurveyMack10]

I think I understand what you are thinking so I will go into further detail..

At four years old...I would think you are not sexually active or have a preference with sex. You are still innocent and are not thinking in sexual ways. When children start to explore their sexuality, take notice....they will either go for the same sex or opposite and maybe both...since they dont think in terms of sin or people hating gay people, children are very honest.

You will see it and maybe not. If you have children, set up a hidden camera at sleepovers...you might just be surprised. 

honestly even the thought of setting up a camera to watch kids "explore their sexuality" just sounds extremely creepy
secondly, by the time we get to an age where we would EXPLORE our sexuality we know the difference between right and wrong
people dont always explore both and that's a fact
they choose to in some cases however

Well I was five or six when I started to explore my sexuality...I bet you young kids besides me and my girlfriends did it then. It may seem creepy but if you're not a pervert then you wont see anything but your child oh, what if she is being molested or hurt by her friend but too scared to tell. I always think a hidden camera is  good for children not yet teens. Since children don't tell you everything.

wow

[Falconer02]

Absolutely not, considering there is a God would include not bashing Christianity though and regarding it as a possibility.

Look at the thread title and think about why I would "bash christianity". Pretty much it's not necessarily the god, but more of what some of the questional beliefs entail.

wow

.....yyyyeeeaaaahhhh. This is why I don't bother with her.

[SurveyMack10]

I think I understand what you are thinking so I will go into further detail..

At four years old...I would think you are not sexually active or have a preference with sex. You are still innocent and are not thinking in sexual ways. When children start to explore their sexuality, take notice....they will either go for the same sex or opposite and maybe both...since they dont think in terms of sin or people hating gay people, children are very honest.

You will see it and maybe not. If you have children, set up a hidden camera at sleepovers...you might just be surprised. 

honestly even the thought of setting up a camera to watch kids "explore their sexuality" just sounds extremely creepy
secondly, by the time we get to an age where we would EXPLORE our sexuality we know the difference between right and wrong
people dont always explore both and that's a fact
they choose to in some cases however

Well I was five or six when I started to explore my sexuality...I bet you young kids besides me and my girlfriends did it then. It may seem creepy but if you're not a pervert then you wont see anything but your child oh, what if she is being molested or hurt by her friend but too scared to tell. I always think a hidden camera is  good for children not yet teens. Since children don't tell you everything.

wow

My main arguement is if you set up a hidden camera you would see kids getting gay and it isn't a choice thing because they most likely think there is nothing wrong with being gay.

total assumption

[SurveyMack10]

I think I understand what you are thinking so I will go into further detail..

At four years old...I would think you are not sexually active or have a preference with sex. You are still innocent and are not thinking in sexual ways. When children start to explore their sexuality, take notice....they will either go for the same sex or opposite and maybe both...since they dont think in terms of sin or people hating gay people, children are very honest.

You will see it and maybe not. If you have children, set up a hidden camera at sleepovers...you might just be surprised. 

honestly even the thought of setting up a camera to watch kids "explore their sexuality" just sounds extremely creepy
secondly, by the time we get to an age where we would EXPLORE our sexuality we know the difference between right and wrong
people dont always explore both and that's a fact
they choose to in some cases however

Well I was five or six when I started to explore my sexuality...I bet you young kids besides me and my girlfriends did it then. It may seem creepy but if you're not a pervert then you wont see anything but your child oh, what if she is being molested or hurt by her friend but too scared to tell. I always think a hidden camera is  good for children not yet teens. Since children don't tell you everything.

wow

My main arguement is if you set up a hidden camera you would see kids getting gay and it isn't a choice thing because they most likely think there is nothing wrong with being gay.

total assumption

No it is from personal experience.

just because you tried out gay things doesn't mean everyone did, I sure as hell didn't

[Annella]

I think I understand what you are thinking so I will go into further detail..

At four years old...I would think you are not sexually active or have a preference with sex. You are still innocent and are not thinking in sexual ways. When children start to explore their sexuality, take notice....they will either go for the same sex or opposite and maybe both...since they dont think in terms of sin or people hating gay people, children are very honest.

You will see it and maybe not. If you have children, set up a hidden camera at sleepovers...you might just be surprised.  

honestly even the thought of setting up a camera to watch kids "explore their sexuality" just sounds extremely creepy
secondly, by the time we get to an age where we would EXPLORE our sexuality we know the difference between right and wrong
people dont always explore both and that's a fact
they choose to in some cases however

Well I was five or six when I started to explore my sexuality...I bet you young kids besides me and my girlfriends did it then. It may seem creepy but if you're not a pervert then you wont see anything but your child oh, what if she is being molested or hurt by her friend but too scared to tell. I always think a hidden camera is  good for children not yet teens. Since children don't tell you everything.

wow

My main arguement is if you set up a hidden camera you would see kids getting gay and it isn't a choice thing because they most likely think there is nothing wrong with being gay.

total assumption

No it is from personal experience.

just because you tried out gay things doesn't mean everyone did, I sure as hell didn't

Nope, here neither.  Marieelissa, a public forum isn't anywhere to divulge that kind of personal information.  I mean....really.

Time for me to go take a survey if I can qualify.

[SurveyMack10]

just because you tried out gay things doesn't mean everyone did, I sure as hell didn't

I never said everyone did but what I did say is that I didn't choose to be bi, it was natural.

so you're bi?

[SurveyMack10]

Nope, here neither.  Marieelissa, a public forum isn't anywhere to divulge that kind of personal information.  I mean....really.

Time for me to go take a survey if I can qualify.

What that when I was five or six, I liked little girls and would kiss them and we would touch? Anyone with common sense knows what homosexuals do in the bedroom. Or only when someone spells it out for you do you get it? I am not gay but like I said, I was a kid and it was NOT a choice, it was NATURAL.

Do what you got to do, I am just showing you, I was a child and didn't make a LIFESTYLE choice. It was a natural attraction.

Either way I'd like you to know that it was not at ALL normal for me and my friends, boy or girl, to touch one another in that way. Also, it was too much information for you to let me know that. I also find it a bit uncomfortable that you think that is normal, that all kids do it, and that it would be ok to set up a camera to film it.

[SurveyMack10]

just because you tried out gay things doesn't mean everyone did, I sure as hell didn't

I never said everyone did but what I did say is that I didn't choose to be bi, it was natural.

so you're bi?

No but even if I was, who gives a crap, it's not a big deal. There is much worse "crimes" being committed! I am with a Black Guy, Does that make me a bad person? 

Just wondering to try to confirm what point you're trying to make. && no one brought up race but you, so once again naw no need to put words in my mouth. AND once again-- if you wanna talk about other "crimes" get off the homosexuality thread.

[SurveyMack10]

Nope, here neither.  Marieelissa, a public forum isn't anywhere to divulge that kind of personal information.  I mean....really.

Time for me to go take a survey if I can qualify.

What that when I was five or six, I liked little girls and would kiss them and we would touch? Anyone with common sense knows what homosexuals do in the bedroom. Or only when someone spells it out for you do you get it? I am not gay but like I said, I was a kid and it was NOT a choice, it was NATURAL.

Do what you got to do, I am just showing you, I was a child and didn't make a LIFESTYLE choice. It was a natural attraction.

Either way I'd like you to know that it was not at ALL normal for me and my friends, boy or girl, to touch one another in that way. Also, it was too much information for you to let me know that. I also find it a bit uncomfortable that you think that is normal, that all kids do it, and that it would be ok to set up a camera to film it.

Well you seem to think kids don't so I would think you would find nothing going on but them playing board games and eating popcorn 

Oh is that so? I don't think I'll ever be placing a camera to spy on my children. thanks for the advice though!