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Re: I thought this was brilliant
« Reply #30 on: June 24, 2010, 02:01:04 pm »
Most people just don't like the idea of burning their bodies.

Well that's ridiculous -- you will be dead and thus, not be able to feel anything.  Save your poor family some money when you're dead and have yourself go up in flames.  ;)
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Re: I thought this was brilliant
« Reply #31 on: June 24, 2010, 04:25:22 pm »
yay I started another argument! Now how about that crazy little war...
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Re: I thought this was brilliant
« Reply #32 on: June 24, 2010, 05:20:36 pm »
yay I started another argument! Now how about that crazy little war...

Well you'll soon learn that when you have trolls like marie hovering in your threads, it happens.   :crybaby2:
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Re: I thought this was brilliant
« Reply #33 on: June 24, 2010, 06:29:55 pm »
I want to be cremated.  Either be scattered in the ocean or maybe have my ashes made into some sort of reef like structure, so I can be dropped in the ocean and be home to fish.  No one needs to visit me.  It'll be great.

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Re: I thought this was brilliant
« Reply #34 on: June 24, 2010, 06:40:41 pm »
I want to be cremated.  Either be scattered in the ocean or maybe have my ashes made into some sort of reef like structure, so I can be dropped in the ocean and be home to fish.  No one needs to visit me.  It'll be great.

That sounds neat!  :)
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« Reply #35 on: June 24, 2010, 06:48:13 pm »
I want to be cremated.  Either be scattered in the ocean or maybe have my ashes made into some sort of reef like structure, so I can be dropped in the ocean and be home to fish.  No one needs to visit me.  It'll be great.

That sounds neat!  :)




It really is.  It's $3500 I think because they take you out on a boat and drop the condensed ashes into the ocean.  I love the water and it would make use of my remains.  Win-win IMO.  You can also have a plaque put in so family members who dive can visit.   

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Re: I thought this was brilliant
« Reply #36 on: June 24, 2010, 07:22:18 pm »
Another good article from the same site (too long to post in this thread): http://new.exchristian.net/2010/06/dear-christian-i-am-atheist.html
"It is far better to grasp the universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring."
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Re: I thought this was brilliant
« Reply #37 on: June 24, 2010, 10:15:03 pm »
Wha~!?

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« Reply #38 on: June 26, 2010, 11:26:05 am »
Wow! that's deep

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« Reply #39 on: June 29, 2010, 04:24:10 pm »
I want a viking funeral!!!! Of ourse, Im not a viking, but it sounds REALLY COOL! :wave: :wave: :wave: :wave:
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Re: I thought this was brilliant
« Reply #40 on: June 29, 2010, 07:23:30 pm »
Well, you have free will (a gift form God if you believe) the believe that this passage is brilliant.
To believe that this passage is based on facts; to believe that there are no facts that contradict this person's ramblings.
God created 'life, the universe and everything'.
Including man whom he gave free will. Some chose to stay, others turned to their own paths.
But that was their choice, the choice they we given.





As well as burying bodies (not in a cemetery setting) recycles material the earth needs; but it increases the danger of zombie uprisings.
That's why one of my friends works out like crazy--he want's to be the most dangerous and terrifying zombie, ever.

And oh yes! I love jesuschristsuperstore.com!

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Re: I thought this was brilliant
« Reply #41 on: June 30, 2010, 08:32:16 am »
Including man whom he gave free will. Some chose to stay, others turned to their own paths.
But that was their choice, the choice they we given.

I'm tired of this free will excuse.  Believe in me or BURN is not a choice!  That's some Adolf Hitler/Kim Il Sung/Saddam Hussein sh*t right there.

When a person asks a believer why a man was allowed to brutally murder and rape a little girl, what excuse to believers usually give?  "Because god couldn't interrupt the man's free will."  Hellllooo, what about the little girl's "free will"?!  Don't you see that with that excuse, god favors a MURDERER'S free will over an innocent victim's.  Ahem.

Why do you people pray then if you believe in god-given free will?  Because to pray to change the course of events on your behalf is bound to interrupt someone else's free will!!  Why do you think god interferes with the world at all, then, if he's supposed to let us all have our free will??

If you believe in some sort of loophole like, oh, god can interfere if he wants to and still mostly give us all free will...well then I ask you, why does god help someone like you, a cushy American, with the most mundane things in your spoiled life while ignoring starving children and parents in Africa who are FAR BETTER DEVOTED CHRISTIANS in terms of prayer and humility?  Why does god throw us breadcrumbs in terms of solving the world's problems or for laughing matter, reveal himself in bread as a "miracle"?!

These are serious questions you need to ask yourselves, believers.  What's more likely: that there is a god, but he's an incompetent jerk based on what we see in the world today or there is no god, and scientists have already largely discovered what are origins are?
"It is far better to grasp the universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring."
-- Carl Sagan

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Re: I thought this was brilliant
« Reply #42 on: July 02, 2010, 12:39:15 pm »
Another good comment from the original post:

"On the value of life without religion:

When I fully gave up on religion, I came to an almost immediate epiphany. Life is the MOST important thing imaginable. There is only THIS life. This is all there is. Life is short, yesterday is gone forever, and my tomorrows are dwindling fast. There are no do-overs and no ever-afters. This is not depressing, it's uplifting. It makes you want to get off your *bleep* and make the world a better place. It makes you want to enjoy everything to its fullest. Those "small pleasures" in life turn out to be incredible pleasures if you let them. But it's not all just fun and games. It makes you realize that everyone else's life is sacred, too. I mean, how can you sit there while someone else's one life, their ONE SHOT at existence is dominated by pain and suffering? When looking at it like this, you've got to help them. Right? If this life is all you've got, then you're compelled to make the most of it.

Religion belittles life. What is the value of life on the scale of eternity? It's nothing. Life is just a brief holding cell on your way to eternal freedom. What's the point of making a big fuss about it, really? You don't need to help other people, as long as they have Jesus, they'll get their big reward in heaven. And besides, if they were REALLY in trouble God would help them now, right? You don't have to do a damn thing! Just enjoy your small pleasures on earth while you wait for the big cake in the sky. Nothing on earth will ever compare with it. Life sucks compared to eternity in heaven!

On finding your path without religion:

You, and you alone, have the power to choose your path. Let that one sink in for a minute.... There is no cosmic plan for you. There is no possibility of you choosing the WRONG thing. The correct thing is whatever you want it to be. And if you don't like your first choice, you just pick again until you get it right. You can do whatever makes you happy. You don't have to worry about what you're SUPPOSED to be doing. Sometimes you'll fail. You own those failures; no one brought them upon you. But you'll also have success, and you'll own those successes, too. They'll be 100% fully yours, not gifts from god. When you succeed, it will be because of what YOU did. How joyful and empowering will that be? Even if it's the smallest success in the darkest part of life, like not shooting up for 24 hours, you'll have the knowledge that YOU alone accomplished it. You'll have the knowledge that YOU alone have all the power over your own life. You'll be empowered to succeed again and again.

Religion is self-deprecating. Anything you achieve is by the grace of God and all your failures are the result of your sinful nature. Whenever you get through a rough patch, it's because God helped you get through it. You never could've done it on your own. You're too weak. God is your strength. Put your trust in him. Everything happens for a reason and God will put you where he needs you. Listen to your heart and let God guide your path. If you can't hear him it's because you're not close enough to him. It's because you're too sinful. You keep failing because you won't give yourself over to Christ. Get right with God and everything will be fine. You are nothing compared to God. Let Jesus take the wheel. He knows what's best for you. You're just a sinful sheep lost in the wilderness."

~ by jwittenmyer
"It is far better to grasp the universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring."
-- Carl Sagan

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Re: I thought this was brilliant
« Reply #43 on: July 02, 2010, 10:41:49 pm »
People waste time fussing and arguing about religion that they could be using to make this world a better place. I believe there's a power greater than myself, but I don't obsess about it.

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Re: I thought this was brilliant
« Reply #44 on: July 03, 2010, 06:42:30 am »
People waste time fussing and arguing about religion that they could be using to make this world a better place. I believe there's a power greater than myself, but I don't obsess about it.

Is that not the purpose of a forum, to discuss?  Is it not a good thing to help people learn and grow and pull them away from false beliefs?  We NEED to argue against religion, lest we find ourselves in the Dark Ages again.
"It is far better to grasp the universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring."
-- Carl Sagan

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