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MYTHS ABOUT TRINA PROOF TEXTS
« on: June 18, 2010, 12:12:01 am »
OK, I personally renamed trinity, TRINA simply because it's Babylonian in nature.  I'm going to refer the myth answers to Christendom(false Christianity) and fact to the original gospel(true Christianity) All scriptures are from NWT unless stated. PLEASE READ THE WHOLE THING  :'(

Proof text:
Matthew 1:23 reads(KJV)  23Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us.

Myth: The prophet said Jesus will be god on earth.

Fact:  Jesus will be son of the most high

The angel Gabriel told Mary that her son will be the son of the most high(Luke 1:34-35) also Jesus and the holy spirit never say I am god or god the son but repeatedly he says the son of god. The phrase god the son, and god the spirit is found nowhere in the bible, the phrase god the father however is in the bible, also the term son of god appears in the NT alone 1048 times!!!!!

Proof Text
John 1:1-3 reads(NKJV) 1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 He was in the beginning with God. 3 All things were made through Him, and without Him nothing was made that was made.

Myth: Jesus as "the word" was God before he came to earth as God and he created everything and he was uncreated.

Fact: Jesus participated in the creation after his father designed it all.

In Exodus 3:14-16 it says you can't even see the face  of God and live however they saw "the word" in human form!!!!!!!. In Proverbs 8:22-31 you see that God designed everything while the son "wisdom" watched and after he finished the designs(set the foundations) the son(wisdom) became a master worker. It's important to know some bibles such as new international version says "wisdom" was created in Proverbs 8:22,

Proof text
John 20:28 reads(KJV) 28And Thomas answered and said unto him, My LORD and my God.

Myth: Thomas acknowledged that Jesus is the almighty God.

Fact: Thomas acknowledged that Jesus was exalted by the almighty God.

Human kings in God's kingdom back then had the title lord and king and they were often called both in one sentence( 2 Samuel 3:20). Judges are referred to as God's (Psalms 82:1-6). Of course Jesus position is much higher then those men. Jesus at Isaiah 9:6 is prophesied to be a mighty God but not almighty God.  Jesus said that his father is "the only true God"(John 17:3). Jesus also says he goes to "my God and your God"(John 20:17), John sums things up by saying Jesus is the son of god(John 20:31).

Proof text
John 8:58 reads(KJV) 58Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.

Myth: Jesus is the Jehovah of the Hebrew scriptures

Fact: Jesus was merely stating he had a Prehuman existence

The context in verse 57 is age not identity where as Exodus 3:14 was Identity.

Proof text
Acts 20:28 reads(KJV) 28Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood.

Myth: God sacrificed himself for our sins

Fact: God sacrificed his son for our sins

In 1 John 1:7, John 3:16, and Revelation 1:4-6 it is said that the son of god gave his life for our sins and not the father.

Proof text
Philippians 2:5-6(KJV) 5Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus: 6Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:

Myth: Jesus was claiming equality with God and was god in flesh(form)

Fact: Jesus was not claiming equality and wanted his followers to imitate his father's qualities(form)

In the KJ and the DY bible it states that Jesus wanted his followers to think it not robbery but their right to be equal to god!!! This is the same thing Satan wanted for Adam and Eve(Genesis 3:5). It's important to know KJ and DY are the only bibles that claim equality to god in this verse.

Proof text
Colossians 2:9 reads(KJV) 9For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

Myth: Jesus was fully God in human form

Fact: Jesus fully had God's qualities in him

In Colossians 1:19 Jesus has the qualities in him not because he is god in nature but because he gets it from his father. Consider the immediate context of Colossians 2:9, in verse 8 we're warned against being misled by philsophy and traditions of men. It's in Jesus verses 3,6,7 not in the originators of philosophy that the fullness dwells. The fullness doesn't make Christ God almighty because Jesus is seated at the right hand if God in Colossians 3:1

Proof text
 Hebrews 1:8-9(NIV)8 But about the Son he says. "Your throne, O God, will last for ever and ever;a scepter of   justice will be the scepter of your kingdom. 9 You have loved righteousness and hated wickedness;
therefore God, your God, has set you above your companions by anointing you with the oil of joy."

Myth: The father called Jesus or recognizes Jesus as my God and the kingdom is not the father's but his son's

Fact: The father exalted Jesus and gave him the kingdom and the father is God over Jesus

God is speaking in the preceding verses and not the one being addressed. The expression God thy God shows that Jesus is not the most high God/Almighty/father/Jehovah but shows he's a worshiper of that God. That scripture quotes Psalms 45:6-7 in which the human king of Israel was called god, obviously the person doing that didn't think that king was Jehovah God. Also God is the throne and upholder of Christ's kingship Daniel 7:13,14  Luke 1:32

Proof text
John 2:19-22 reads 19  In answer Jesus said to them: “Break down this temple, and in three days I will raise it up.” 20  Therefore the Jews said: “This temple was built in forty-six years, and will you raise it up in three days?” 21  But he was talking about the temple of his body. 22  When, though, he was raised up from the dead, his disciples called to mind that he used to say this; and they believed the Scripture and the saying that Jesus said.

Myth: Jesus resurrected himself

Fact: Jesus didn't resurrect himself independently from the father

In Galatians 1:1 God the father is said to have resurrected Jesus, see also Romans 8:11

Proof text
John 10:30 reads 30  I and the Father are one.”

Myth: Jesus and God are 2 different people and yet are exactly the same person(bah TRINA)

Fact: Jesus and God are one in purpose and deed

If this verse is taken literally there's going to be a lot more then 3 in one godhead John 17:21-22

Proof text
1 John 5:7-8 reads(KJV) 7For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one. 8And there are three that bear witness in earth, the Spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one.

Myth: this is the authentic verse for our trina

Fact: this is THE MOST SATANIC  VERSE FOR THEIR TRINA

Not only does the latter part only appear in 2 bibles (KJ and DY) it's also not in any manuscripts.

Conclusion: Jesus is divine and has a lot of qualities that is his father's but he also has some qualities that isn't his father's such as being anointed, having a title that only is given to angels and those in the first resurrection which is son of god(1 Job 1:6). Jesus also never says I am god, nor does he say I am not god. So from careful study and finding out that Jesus himself never say's he's god, not god and he's clearly not equal to the father, yet he's better then the angels (Hebrews 1:4), then he is THE ARCHANGEL the most powerful and godlike angel possible but still not equal to the father.

Sources: Secret bible encyclopedia
https://watch002.securesites.net/e/contact/submit.htm

 
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