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The FBI and witnesses tell the Associated Press that Mexican security forces chased away U.S. agents at gunpoint after a Border Patrol officer shot and killed a 15-year-old Mexican boy on the banks of the Rio Grande. The FBI said the boy was among a group throwing rocks as agents on the U.S. side of the border detained suspected illegal immigrants.

U.S. officials said the unidentified agent was defending himself Monday evening near the Paso Del Norte bridge, across the border from Ciudad Juarez. He fired several times, striking Sergio Adrián Hernandez Guereca once in his face, the FBI said. Hernandez will be buried tomorrow.

A 16-year-old relative told AP that not long after Hernandez was shot, Mexican federal agents arrived and pointed their guns at the U.S. agents as they waded into the mud, threatening to kill them if they crossed the border. The Americans retreated.

A U.S. official said video shows the Border Patrol agent did not enter Mexico.

AP offers other developments:

• Arturo Sandoval, a spokesman for the Chihuahua state Attorney General's office, said a spent .40-caliber shell casing was found near the body — raising the question of whether the fatal shot was fired inside Mexico, although he did not explicitly make that allegation. That would violate the rules for Border Patrol agents, who are supposed to stay on the U.S. side of the border.

• A U.S. official said the video also shows what seem to be four Mexican law enforcement officers driving to the edge of the dry but muddy bed of the Rio Grande, walking across to the U.S. side, picking up an undetermined object and returning to Mexico near the area where the boy's body was. Like their U.S. counterparts, Mexican law officers are not authorized to cross the border without permission.

The agent has been assigned to desk duty pending the outcome of the investigation, which the FBI is heading.

Mexican President Felipe Calderon said his government "will use all resources available to protect the rights of Mexican migrants."

Less than two weeks ago, Mexican migrant Anastasio Hernandez, 32, died after a Customs and Border Protection officer shocked him with a stun gun at the San Ysidro border crossing that separates San Diego and Tijuana, Mexico. The San Diego medical examiner's office ruled that death a homicide.

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Re: Mexican police chased away U.S. border agents after teen slain
« Reply #1 on: June 09, 2010, 09:50:57 pm »
Wow! I am at a loss for words :(
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Re: Mexican police chased away U.S. border agents after teen slain
« Reply #2 on: June 09, 2010, 10:35:02 pm »
This guy shot a child for THROWING ROCKS????? The officer who did it should be in JAIL, not on desk duty!!!!!

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Re: Mexican police chased away U.S. border agents after teen slain
« Reply #3 on: June 14, 2010, 09:51:25 am »
i believe that's not the way they should have handled it but they should have taken the boy in to custody because he is an illegal immigrant making an illegal act. but that was definitely wrong of them to kill anyone let alone a child.

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Re: Mexican police chased away U.S. border agents after teen slain
« Reply #4 on: June 14, 2010, 03:18:29 pm »
i believe that's not the way they should have handled it but they should have taken the boy in to custody because he is an illegal immigrant making an illegal act. but that was definitely wrong of them to kill anyone let alone a child.
The boy was on the Mexican side of the border...that would have been kid napping and crossing internation borders in the commission of a felony.

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Re: Mexican police chased away U.S. border agents after teen slain
« Reply #5 on: June 14, 2010, 04:05:54 pm »
i believe that's not the way they should have handled it but they should have taken the boy in to custody because he is an illegal immigrant making an illegal act. but that was definitely wrong of them to kill anyone let alone a child.
The boy was on the Mexican side of the border...that would have been kid napping and crossing internation borders in the commission of a felony.

Dos'nt say definitivley  on what side of the border the kid was on. But it dosnt matter where the kid was you dont go shooting kids, rock throwing (If he was throwing rocks) dosnt constitute the use of deadly force. This  is why the Arizona law is not going to work. some cops will be so gung ho rounding up the illegals, somebody will get shot reaching for his wallet in the  glove compartment.

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Re: Mexican police chased away U.S. border agents after teen slain
« Reply #6 on: June 14, 2010, 08:36:39 pm »
i believe that's not the way they should have handled it but they should have taken the boy in to custody because he is an illegal immigrant making an illegal act. but that was definitely wrong of them to kill anyone let alone a child.
The boy was on the Mexican side of the border...that would have been kid napping and crossing internation borders in the commission of a felony.

Dos'nt say definitivley  on what side of the border the kid was on. But it dosnt matter where the kid was you dont go shooting kids, rock throwing (If he was throwing rocks) dosnt constitute the use of deadly force. This  is why the Arizona law is not going to work. some cops will be so gung ho rounding up the illegals, somebody will get shot reaching for his wallet in the  glove compartment.
I didn't post about it but the day after the shooting a witness came forward with video footage they took that clearly showed the boy was on the Mexican side of the border when he was shot. The footage was shown on CNN.

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Re: Mexican police chased away U.S. border agents after teen slain
« Reply #7 on: June 15, 2010, 04:58:53 am »
This is really sketchy so far-Although I find it hard to believe that someone would shoot a kid for throwing rocks, I know there's a lot of sicko jerk-offs out there who would.  I'll have to look this story up.  How sad for the boy and his family.  It scares me to think that agents like that think they have the authority to just SHOOT someone that is doing something they don't like!!!! 

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Re: Mexican police chased away U.S. border agents after teen slain
« Reply #8 on: June 15, 2010, 11:23:35 am »
I will say it could have been handled alittle differently. Has nothing to do with the AZ law not working as IT IS WORKING already.

There are many factors that are left out which makes this one sided.
It is not like the kid was chucking pebbles at the feet of the border patrol.
Law Enforcement Officials have the right to defend themselfs from bodily harm which is what the kid was attemping.
Again I don't think the kid should have been killed. But he shouldn't have be throwing rocks!

There was obviously some igorance from chucking rocks at a law enforcement official and he sadly paid the ultimate price.

Sad a life was taken.

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Re: Mexican police chased away U.S. border agents after teen slain
« Reply #9 on: June 15, 2010, 04:07:06 pm »
Why the hell are these people (Mexicans) at the Border anyways? Don't they have anything else to do but start trouble?
Note to self.....take a deep breath and dont lose it on this poor clueless girl.

Number 1. as I have stated over and over, the imaginary line that you call the border cut right through the center of communities in some instances dividing families. I wont even bother asking you what you would do if someone told you that you would no longer be allowed to visit your family members except by explicit permission that may take several years to be granted......or not.

No Indian people were allowed to vote back in the day that the border was invented so had no say in the matter.
Even if they did, the lands of Mexico comes right up to the fence at the border, so......any Mexican can come right up to the fence legally and rightfully any time they like. What were you doing moving about your community this week? Huh????

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Re: Mexican police chased away U.S. border agents after teen slain
« Reply #10 on: June 15, 2010, 11:03:49 pm »
LOL...this is not about not being able to see his family that lives on the other side of the border. LOL
It was about a kid with little to no intelligence throwing rocks at Law Officals!

AND, this is not a new law as I have said over and over. It has been somewhat enforced at the borders forever. Why do you think they are jumping fences, digging tunnels and smuggling themselves into Arizona. They don't just walk through the border!

The Border Patrol was doing their job and the very few with little to no intelligence that are against this law, "that has been around forever", want to protest. For what???? I'm pretty sure they don't even know.

So far everyone that are against the AZ law is pretty ignorant to it. Some might have a gripe but are making themselves look foolish thinking AZ is the evil behind it.

Now you can sugar coat the story any way you want but facts are the kid was killed because of stupidity, the Border Patrol Officer and mostly HIS!

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Re: Mexican police chased away U.S. border agents after teen slain
« Reply #11 on: June 16, 2010, 05:23:33 pm »
maybe you should reread the conversation between me and walksalone because you don't understand what was being said. I know what the story is about and I was just asking why the hell Mexicans like to stand around the border starting trouble as if they have nothing better to do. He then replied that the border cuts through communities and they need to get permission to see family. If the border cuts through communities wouldn't that mean some communities are now on American Soil? And if they are still in Mexico why do they need Americas permission?

If you are responding to me there is alot you don't understand! I live in AZ and know what is going on. His response to you is misleading as that is not what the protest was about. From your post you should really look into things alittle more before you post as you have a tendency to show your *bleep* more than you think and it is not a pretty site.

If you wanted to know these people like walksalone don't agree with the AZ Law even though it was established years ago. AZ Law just allows local law officials to enforce it instead of federal officials.
So they are turning over every rock they can to try to protest this law. Really it is making them look very foolish.

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Re: Mexican police chased away U.S. border agents after teen slain
« Reply #12 on: June 16, 2010, 08:01:01 pm »
Seeings how there is a mass exodus of brown skinned people from Arizona, I would like to welcome any and all of my brothers and sisters to my current home state of New Mexico. We have many different cultures here living harmoniously with one another.

My business trip to Phoenix in September has been canceled.

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Re: Mexican police chased away U.S. border agents after teen slain
« Reply #13 on: June 16, 2010, 08:05:21 pm »
I live in the town where this border patrol agent was stationed and the stories coming out of this are all over the place!  There are multiple videos and everyone has a different story yada yada yada.  No one really knows what happened except the people that were there at the exact time.  It has also been said that the slain boy had already had 3 arrests for human trafficing so who knows.

I'm definitely not saying it was acceptable for the border patrol agent to have shot the 15 year old but let he who has no sin cast the first stone and I for one am not casting stones...ignore the irony in that statement as it relates to this story!

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Re: Mexican police chased away U.S. border agents after teen slain
« Reply #14 on: June 28, 2010, 12:18:24 pm »
No pun intended but that's overkill.

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