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debraleesparks

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Re: immigrants
« Reply #30 on: May 06, 2010, 11:51:06 pm »
wow... no actually I applied pretty much just like you did... my social is mine, my dl is mine... fortunatelly for me neither one of you runs this country, there is still laws that protects us.  Funny thing is that people from my country are never in the news about committing crimes.  If you watch the news closely majority of the people there are affluent people.  People who went to school, people who were trained in fields in which they have access to anything.  Not to stereo type but my people are hards workers, we all have jobs, hell my brother is a recruiter for the marines, yes he is serving this great country.  My oldest son wants to also be a marine, my seven 7year wants to be president as you can see we are not here for anything else but to make it just like you.  Yes I may not be legal but just like you, I pay taxes, I am not on government assistance as I believe that as I long as I am able I will work for what I want.  As for ICE they already know about me. lol... so calling them won't do you any good.  ;)
If you pay taxes, work, your brother is a recruit for the marines, you are not on govt assistance than you deserve to be a US citizen. The only people that should not be allowed to come here are the ones who, don't work, don't pay taxes, don't contribute to the U.S. at all, and live off the government.
:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:  I agree!! she is legal, but she doesn't realize it. If she got her s.s. card legally, and she has a child who was born here, she is legal.. We need to keep out the leeches, and terrorists.If she stoll someones s.s. number, then she is a criminal who needs to go to prison, but by the way she talks, I believe she is here legally.

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Re: immigrants
« Reply #31 on: May 07, 2010, 02:44:41 am »
I believe that people should be able to find a way into the United States legally. The new law in Arizona is crazy.

Freepcmoney, why do you think that people trying to find a good life should be killed? I could understand if they come to the US to commit crimes, but MOST of the time, they come here just to work.  I don't see a problem with deporting them if they commit crimes, but at least give people a chance.
I agree with you 100% I do not feel that there is really any need to have to kill people.  What exactly are we tring to prove by killing people? Especially since the majority of the time they are trying to save their lives and the lives of their children by coming to America. I know some people that were illegal immigrants and I find it very sad.  Although, it may be against the law I still find that some are are GENUINELY trying to find a better way of living to help support their families.  So really what is the harm in that?  Yes some countries are trying to hurt America but we are also hurting ourselves.  With all of the crime going on in America alot of it is americans themselves.  Not all of the people in jail are illegal immigrants but Americans themselves!!!  So sorry to say but we are not perfect, we were just fortunate enough to be born here!!!

I said that to solve the problem of  ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION-----The FIRST thing that must be done is to solve the CAUSE of the PROBLEM.------The PRIMARY cause of the problem is people coming across the border between Mexico and the USA. ( Eventhough a few illegals do come in through other means.) How do you stop illegals from committing the CRIME of crossing the border ILLEGALLY???  We could build a fence that would take a long time, BUTT it NEEDS to be done. BUTT while we are waiting on that-----Put the National Guard on the Mexican/USA Border and order them to shoot anyone coming across who does not pass through customs.

DO you people NOT UNDERSTAND that it is a CRIME, It is AGAINST the laws of this GREAT COUNTRY to cross that border illegally?? You are a criminal. If you are shot while crossing, then you are shot in act of committing a crime........We are a nation of laws. After the first one or two were shot, there would not be anymore. The others would GET THE DAMMED MESSAGE AND STAY IN MEXICO. PROBLEM OF ILLEGAL BORDER CROSSING WOULD BE SOLVED!!!!

But NOT TO WORRY----Nobody in Washington DC has enough nuts to kill a fly. They would have to get a committee to study it....

The reason that you are coming here does not negate the LAW. The law is the law
An example-----If you had a loved one who was old and very ill and wanted to die to get out of their pain and misery, and begged you to help them. You gave them an overdose of drugs to help them and they died. YOU ARE GUILTY OF MURDER. The law is the law. Your reaon for breaking it does not change anything,.

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Re: immigrants
« Reply #32 on: May 13, 2010, 11:16:21 am »
There is a passage in the bible that says " if you are free of sin, throw the 1st stone".  Even the president of the United States has never been able to say, he has never braking the law.  If I am braking the law by staying here illegaly, I am paying a lot of money on social security, taxes, medicaid, attorneys fees, immigration fees... Being here illegaly is costly, but since I do have a job and as anyone else here is not just that I have to pay all this but it is also my duty.  My kids will someday serve this country, they all want to grow up and join the marines just like my brother.  See unfortunatelly there is a lot of us, that have been here for years but because of immagration reforms that ultimatelly leave us out of every opportunity we have not been able to get our papers.  Yes I have my own Social and Driver's license, see years ago immigrants were able to get papers, I got mine when I was in high school but they are only to ID who I am, not to say I am legal.  I am still going thru the court motions but it takes years.. You would have to be in my shoes to know how it feels.. But either way, you can say pretty much anything but unless you are any of us, you simply don't know what you are talking about.

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Re: immigrants
« Reply #33 on: May 15, 2010, 11:50:05 am »
I think illegal immigration is something this country needs to get under control. The unique thing about the US's problem compared to that of other countries is that the US shares a large and hard to patrol border with a country that is much worse off.
I understand that illegal immigrants come to the US because they want a better life, but that is why everyone came here, and not everyone did it illegally and made themselves a burden to legal citizens.
While I think the measures taken in Arizona are harsh, I understand what they wanted to achieve and fully agree. Sometimes unfavorable things need to be done to fix a problem.
i think that if immigrats want to come to united states then they need to go thru a year worth of classes to understand our way of living and pass a test in order to get certified to live in the united states

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Re: immigrants
« Reply #34 on: May 15, 2010, 12:46:13 pm »
Freedom ISN'T free........   it costs a buck o' Five.

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Re: immigrants
« Reply #35 on: May 15, 2010, 01:33:37 pm »
Freedom ISN'T free........   it costs a buck o' Five.
lol epic. Team America ftw   8)

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Re: immigrants
« Reply #36 on: May 15, 2010, 05:11:27 pm »
Shoot anybody that crosses the border illegaly  WOW.  Makes me proud to be an American.  I think id much rather have an illegal as a neighbor than an american that thinks like this.  

And good thinking making an 18 year old kid in the National Guard to do the shooting for you. Wouldnt want it to be on your conscience.
« Last Edit: May 16, 2010, 03:22:53 am by muush88 »

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Re: immigrants
« Reply #37 on: May 19, 2010, 05:47:39 pm »
I agree they are illegal is because they don't pay taxes and they use our taxes for medicine and stuff

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Re: immigrants
« Reply #38 on: May 19, 2010, 06:17:52 pm »
There is a passage in the bible that says " if you are free of sin, throw the 1st stone".  Even the president of the United States has never been able to say, he has never braking the law.  If I am braking the law by staying here illegaly, I am paying a lot of money on social security, taxes, medicaid, attorneys fees, immigration fees... Being here illegaly is costly, but since I do have a job and as anyone else here is not just that I have to pay all this but it is also my duty.  My kids will someday serve this country, they all want to grow up and join the marines just like my brother.  See unfortunatelly there is a lot of us, that have been here for years but because of immagration reforms that ultimatelly leave us out of every opportunity we have not been able to get our papers.  Yes I have my own Social and Driver's license, see years ago immigrants were able to get papers, I got mine when I was in high school but they are only to ID who I am, not to say I am legal.  I am still going thru the court motions but it takes years.. You would have to be in my shoes to know how it feels.. But either way, you can say pretty much anything but unless you are any of us, you simply don't know what you are talking about.

I completely understand where you are coming from.  My ex-fiance was here illegally and we met him in high school.  He was here under a visa but it expired and his mother did not have the money to pay for it.  Like you mentioned earlier it takes a very long process to become legalized.  But unfortunately my ex was deported back to venezuela all for something that he did not even do. They were really modest people and I miss them very much.  I myself am an American citizen and do not completely agree with the way this country works. 

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Re: immigrants
« Reply #39 on: May 20, 2010, 02:39:50 pm »
LEGAL IMMIGRANTS yes. ILLEGAL HELL MFING NO!






http://www.facebook.com/pages/Obama-has-committed-TREASON-/122677304419852?ref=nf

Barack Hussein Obama II  has committed treason for allowing his illegal alien aunt to be in this country living on public assistance for 8 YEARS!

ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION = FOREIGN INVASION!
ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT = ENEMY OF THE UNITED STATES


 "whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty of treason and shall suffer death, or shall be imprisoned not less than five years and fined under this title but not less than $10,000; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zeituni_Onyango

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Re: immigrants
« Reply #40 on: May 20, 2010, 02:48:38 pm »
wow I don't even know what to say.  I came to this country illegaly when I was 15.  It was not my decision but my dads, I didn't want to come nor did my sister who was 13, we simply had no choice.  This was more than 22years ago.  At first the language barrier, the diversity of people, the customs was overwhelming and we just wanted to go back, we even tried running away but couldn't get far.  As the days, weeks, months and years went by this became our home. Neither my sister or I have papers yet, its complicated.  It is sad to hear that some people think so little of us immigrants.  Althought I may not be legal, I have always work hard, I have health insurance, I have owned and paid several cars, I am in the process of buying a house.  I have ok credit and don't owe anyone.  I tried to follow the law and try to keep out of trouble.  Most people know of my legal status, I am no ashamed of being an illegal immigrant, but they also know of my integrity.  Being illegal doesn't mean that we are criminals, I would never shoot anyone unless I had a life threatening reason and even then I think I would have a problem.  For anyone to say just shoot as they come accross sounds to me like your saying "use this as an excuse an go trigger happy". That just sounds wrong.

I don't even know what to say....

If you are here ILLEGALLY YOU ARE THE ENEMY OF THE UNITED STATES! GTFO!

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Re: immigrants
« Reply #41 on: May 20, 2010, 03:57:23 pm »


If you are here ILLEGALLY YOU ARE THE ENEMY OF THE UNITED STATES! GTFO!
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Having an aunt here illegally is treason?   :BangHead:   Times square bomber U.S. citizenship, some of his accomplices U.S. citizenship  Timothy Mcvey citizen US Army Veteran,  Sept 11 2001 suicide bombers most or all were here legally. learning how to use our infrastucture against us. So its ok to kill as many americans as you can if you have the correct paperwork.  But to hell with anybody who picks fruit or vegetables or works in the backstretch of any racetrack in america. we complain about they take all the jobs away from us but we dont want to do them anyway.

Treason, sedition mean disloyalty or treachery to one's country or its government. Treason is any attempt to overthrow the government or impair the well-being of a state to which one owes allegiance; the crime of giving aid or comfort to the enemies of one's government.
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Re: immigrants
« Reply #42 on: May 20, 2010, 05:20:46 pm »
I think if the immigrants come here the right way, to be legal, it is ok, BUT when they come here illegally and take our jobs, there needs to be something done. We have a lot of Americans here that don't have jobs, and we need to support our legal citizens FIRST. It is ridiculous that illegal immigrants can come here and find a job when Americans on the street cannot. Something needs to be done about that. I don't know how, but it has to be done before everyone who is here legally lose all their jobs because of illegal immigrants.

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« Reply #43 on: May 20, 2010, 07:37:41 pm »
Illegal immigration is indeed a very hot topic and a topic that causes anger and hate to erupt in many people. Sometimes I catch myself saying something bad about illegal immigrants, but then I take a step back and look at things from a different perspective. We are all in search of a better life in one form or another, just some people do by means of coming to this country illegally. Yes it is wrong and a crime, but people should not lose their lives because of it. The US needs to get up off their lazy asses and do something about it. Action gets things done, complaining about it gets us no where.
I am an immigrant who came to the US 17 years ago LEGALLY in search of a better life. I did everything in my power to make sure I did all the right things to become a citizen. I sacrificed to pay the fees for my applications and citizenship papers when I had very little money to spare. So if someone is here illegally and they want to stay here, they have no excuse.
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Re: immigrants
« Reply #44 on: May 20, 2010, 08:35:41 pm »
TO EVERYONE,

IF YOUR AMERICAN YOU WENT TO HIGH SCHOOL AND TOOK HISTORY, SO YOU HAVE TO KNOW ABOUT A PART OF AMERICA WAS ONCE MEXICO.
 
IF YOU THINK IMMIGRANTS SHOULD BE SHOT THEN... BECAUSE WE ARE ALL IMMIGRANTS IN ONE WAY OR THE OTHER.

IF YOU THINK THAT IMMIGRANTS ARE TAKING JOBS FROM AMERICANS THEN YOU NEED TO LOOK FOR A JOB WHERE HARD WORK IS INVOLVED. THE THE FIRST THEY WOULD HIRE IS AMERICANS AND IF AN AMERICAN DOESN'T HIRE YOU IS BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T SEE POTENTIAL IN YOU FOR THAT TYPE OF JOB. IMMIGRANTS ARE HARD WORKERS THAT ARE BRAVE ENOUGH TO APPLY FOR JOBS YOU GET YOUR HANDS DIRTY  IN WITCH MANY AMERICANS ARE NOT WILLING TO DO.

YES I THINK IMMIGRANTS SHOULD HAVE PAPERS TO BE IN AMERICA, BUT FIRST THEY NEED TO COME TO AMERICA IN ORDER TO APPLY TO BECOME A US CITIZENS AND TO BECOME A CITIZEN ITS NOT THAT EASY OR CHEEP.

EVERYONE WANTS TO COME TO AMERICA AND LIVE A BETTER LIFE AND THAT'S WHAT AMERICA OFFERS EVERYONE.

WHAT MAKES AMERICA TO BE WHAT IT IS, LAND OF THE FREE. ITS NOT JUST AMERICANS IS EVERYONE WHO LIVES IN AMERICA.

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