Jesus God or a god: The christian debate to end all christian debates read rules

[teflonfanatic]

1. Umm your first pic is false, I don't pray or bow down to statues.

2. The weather man(not saying Noah was) told you that a hurricane was coming is that a myth?

3. Every animal species was not in walking distance if it was it wouldn't have taken decades for him to do this.

4. Ok now the first half is true especially since Churchianity doesn't believe Jesus ever stopped living in ANY form, and they also telepathically(as you putit) talk to Jesus even though the scriptures never tell you to pray to him in fact Jesus tells you to pray to the father(Matthew 6:9). However there's zero evidence that the tree was magical so your assertion is false, So satan 1uped modern day ventrilogists(yeah I mispelled it) big deal. As for Eve being a rib woman(God 1uped cloning?) I rather believe that then a woman randomly becoming human from animals.

[Falconer02]

2. The weather man(not saying Noah was) told you that a hurricane was coming is that a myth?

No. But if some dude told you he was 900 years old and the entire world was about to flood with 40 days of rainfall and that he built a massive boat to hold (only) 2 of every animal on earth and that all the evil people will be washed away and then your kids and all the animals will have to repopulate the earth via massive lines of incest...if you believed that guy...yikesssss. Shy a few bricks.

I wish I could find it, but I read an article stating that if that amount of rainfall would have poured onto the world in that short of a time, the carbon monoxide would kill everything (including Noah) way before people would have drowned.

3. Every animal species was not in walking distance if it was it wouldn't have taken decades for him to do this.

Dude...the story is bogus.

they also telepathically(as you putit) talk to Jesus even though the scriptures never tell you to pray to him in fact Jesus tells you to pray to the father(Matthew 6:9).

It's still telepathy.

However there's zero evidence that the tree was magical so your assertion is false, So satan 1uped modern day ventrilogists(yeah I mispelled it) big deal. As for Eve being a rib woman(God 1uped cloning?)

There's zero evidence of the story being true either. Ya got a mixed up chain of events of how the world was formed, a talking demon-snake, dirt man, rib woman, a god who has horrible reasoning skills, and an evil stupid trap. There's truckloads of magic in that story! Truckloads!

As for Eve being a rib woman(God 1uped cloning?) I rather believe that then a woman randomly becoming human from animals.

Humans ARE animals.  

[prtee33]

I'm just having fun posting funny pictures. There are dozens and dozens of them poking fun at such a silly subject.

[teflonfanatic]

2. The weather man(not saying Noah was) told you that a hurricane was coming is that a myth?

No. But if some dude told you he was 900 years old and the entire world was about to flood with 40 days of rainfall and that he built a massive boat to hold (only) 2 of every animal on earth and that all the evil people will be washed away and then your kids and all the animals will have to repopulate the earth via massive lines of incest...if you believed that guy...yikesssss. Shy a few bricks.

I wish I could find it, but I read an article stating that if that amount of rainfall would have poured onto the world in that short of a time, the carbon monoxide would kill everything (including Noah) way before people would have drowned.

3. Every animal species was not in walking distance if it was it wouldn't have taken decades for him to do this.

Dude...the story is bogus.

they also telepathically(as you putit) talk to Jesus even though the scriptures never tell you to pray to him in fact Jesus tells you to pray to the father(Matthew 6:9).

It's still telepathy.

However there's zero evidence that the tree was magical so your assertion is false, So satan 1uped modern day ventrilogists(yeah I mispelled it) big deal. As for Eve being a rib woman(God 1uped cloning?)

There's zero evidence of the story being true either. Ya got a mixed up chain of events of how the world was formed, a talking demon-snake, dirt man, rib woman, a god who has horrible reasoning skills, and an evil stupid trap. There's truckloads of magic in that story! Truckloads!

As for Eve being a rib woman(God 1uped cloning?) I rather believe that then a woman randomly becoming human from animals.

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Humans ARE animals.  

1. Still beats random humans forming from animals at least I know my line.
2. Red herring I was commenting on the persons post about Noah getting every animal in walking distance not the validity of the account.
3. What's wrong with telepathy?
4. Talking demon snake got me there I don't have a reason to believe that other then the document says so. As for the first man being made from  dirt why won't you believe we decompose into dirt?  As for Eve it's called cloning when you take a part of a human being and make another human being we don't call conception cloning due to the amount of time it takes to bring the baby in the world and they not 100% like their paents etc.

[Falconer02]

1. Still beats random humans forming from animals at least I know my line.

Evolution (especially human evolution) has been proven though. The fossil record is obviously incomplete (and technically it will always be incomplete in my book), but there's ample proof of it happening. Your line of thinking has been tossed out long long ago by the scientific community because it's mythology. This really comes down to one person believing the undeniable evidence and the other believing in a kid's fantasy story and trying to mix that story with the undeniable evidence.

2. Red herring I was commenting on the persons post about Noah getting every animal in walking distance not the validity of the account.

I must have misunderstood what you meant, but the story still stands as a bogus myth.

3. What's wrong with telepathy?

It's fake. And it's dispicable to go around saying that one has magic powers that others don't possess. One exclaiming they can talk to a deity might as well go join the ranks of other fakes like Uri Geller. Leave it in the realms of science fiction and fantasy (x-men, star wars, etc.)

. Talking demon snake got me there I don't have a reason to believe that other then the document says so. As for the first man being made from  dirt why won't you believe we decompose into dirt?  As for Eve it's called cloning when you take a part of a human being and make another human being we don't call conception cloning due to the amount of time it takes to bring the baby in the world and they not 100% like their paents etc.

Well with this reasoning I'm surprised that you don;t say babies come from farms because we grow them in the fields. You got this weird interpretation of the circle of life. And if the bible god used an entire rib to create Eve, he's a pretty crappy scientist considering all he should have needed was a few blood cells (if that). If I were a kind and loving god, I would have just done it with my magical powers-- asking absolutely nothing in return. That's what good and kind people do. But a rib? Wth? Seriously, a rib? And if the biblegod used Adam's blood to create Eve, ya got yerself some good ol-fashioned incest goin' on! HYUK! Toss all of this in with the talking snake and you got yourself another obvious myth. I'm surprised you're not seeing this from the get-go.

[prtee33]

I watched this movie last night. Very realistic look on Christianity.

This YouTube link unfortunately does not have the bonus extended interviews that were part of the DVD I downloaded.

The God Who Wasn't There

http://youtu.be/MFsmmMTMCHU

[gaylasue]

It freaks me out at how much hatred atheists have for their ancestors history. They hate their ancestors so much that they regard their history as uneducated and fake.

Religious myths are very much like Chuck Norris movies. If you have half a brain and think for a moment about the plausibility of the plot, you’ll never be able to enjoy it. Adam and Eve and Noah's Ark aren't history. They're ancient myths. Everything I quoted from you is massively wrong on so many levels. Educated people know this. If you respond to this, please take consideration on both the ludicrous stories and how reality actually works.

Too bad you don't use half the brain the Lord blessed you with.  You seem to be possessed with something.

[jordandog]

It freaks me out at how much hatred atheists have for their ancestors history. They hate their ancestors so much that they regard their history as uneducated and fake.

Religious myths are very much like Chuck Norris movies. If you have half a brain and think for a moment about the plausibility of the plot, you’ll never be able to enjoy it. Adam and Eve and Noah's Ark aren't history. They're ancient myths. Everything I quoted from you is massively wrong on so many levels. Educated people know this. If you respond to this, please take consideration on both the ludicrous stories and how reality actually works.

Too bad you don't use half the brain the Lord blessed you with.  You seem to be possessed with something.

You happen to be insulting someone who is both extremely intelligent and very open to new ideas. Just because his ideas do NOT fit in with your's and he doesn't live his life waiting to die (so that he can go on to live in some fictitious world), you imply he is 'possessed'? If only you could grasp the fact that those of us who do not believe as you do are not evil, have compassion for all of mankind and not just fellow christians, and contribute great things to the society we all live in, you just might get your nose back into joint and make a plausible attempt at some common sense when it comes to questioning all the fantastical stories in your Bible.

You are another one on here that doesn't have the capability (like jcribb, shernajwine, and a few others) to carry on a conversation that just might be productive if you would get out of your 'biblical box thinking'. This is the type of holier-than-thou, full of holes thinking that leads nowhere. You cut people off just because they don't follow your god. I have read 99% of everything (from a religious point of view) you have posted here at FC and to listen to you, it seems as if all the other world religions who do not believe in Christ are doomed and beneath you. That is plain old dyed in the wool BS. Atheists and agnostics do not have "hate for their ancestors history". We just happen to look at the actual ancestors we do have ie real people.

[Falconer02]

lol thank you very much, Jdog. But I know for a fact that there isn't a spot for any reasoning with this one. I mean she thinks I'm possessed and that her god cured her brain abnormality. Need I say more? And now she tries to offend people that take her beliefs on just like any good christian would do.   So the best thing to do is just take pity- let sleeping dogs lie and go with the comedic flow they're naively introducing.

Too bad you don't use half the brain the Lord blessed you with.  You seem to be possessed with something.

Oh yes. I have them all, christ-like figure. I'm possessed by spirits, ghosts, djinns, and demons and...uhhh....Ooga booga BOOOO!

[walksalone11]

AHEMM.......

[Falconer02]

AHEMM.....

What? You're evil too? I'm possessed by evil demons, man! Gaylasue is like the supernatural Sherlock Holmes! Get the holy water and phone book! We're gonna need an exorcist!

[jcribb16]

respectfully disagree.  The Bible is God's Word written by men God chose to deliver His Word on paper (probably more like scrolls back then).  What happened is an accurate recording of history as it happened.  I would love to be able to go to Israel and other countries and see the remains of buildings, archaeology digs, and places marked that back the history of His Word.

"It truly boggles my mind that a big percentage of people in the year 2001 in the U.S. of A., one of, if not the most socially advanced country in the world, believe in a goofy book that was written by people that lived thousands of years ago. It really just completely freaks me out when I think about it. They lived in a time when the world was flat, and the earth was the center of the universe. They wrote a book, said it was the word of God, and two thousand years later people are still buying their bull.

That is one incredible human accomplishment.

The fact that a book filled with stories too dumb to make it into an episode of Xena Princess Warrior continues to be used as the guide for human behavior after all this time is truly mind boggling.

We as a society, if we are going to accept the concepts of organized religion realize that we must put aside normal, natural, human skepticism and questioning in order for ANY of it to make ANY sense whatsoever. Now how did they cover their *bleep* on that one? How do they get you to NOT think, and NOT question? They get you with one simple word: FAITH.

Now if that ain’t a hoot and a half, I don’t know what is. They actually got rational, intelligent people to put aside THINKING and LOGIC just by saying you have to have faith.

And silly as it is, people bought it, and continue to buy it, hook line and sinker. The fact that these stories take in SO many people is what’s really disturbing to me. Simple, dumb, ridiculous stories that only a little kid should be able to believe.

Like Noah and the Ark, for instance.

Now, please… with any knowledge of science whatsoever and a grade school grasp of the food chain, how the hell could you buy into that one? If you put 2 of each animal on a boat for 40 days, all you would have at the end is a couple stuffed crocodiles and a few nervous hippos and rhinos. Animals EAT other animals.

And even if they did put off eating for 40 days, what the hell are they going to eat when they get off the boat?

It’s such a simple puzzle that it’s actually quite confusing to me that people still believe it. It was designed to trick the people of 2,000 years ago, and yet today with all of our science and wisdom it’s still accepted by a frightening number of people.

Want even dumber? How about Adam and Eve.

Two people were created by God, these two people screwed, and their kids screwed each other, and that’s where we came from. Life was supposed to be perfect, pure and holy, but then that Eve chick went and ate the fruit that God said not to eat, so now we’re screwed up forever.

Now, if that isn’t the most retarded thing I’ve ever heard in all my life, I really don’t know what is. Yet, there’s many intelligent people with important jobs and kids, that take that story as a fact."

- Joe Rogan

Your resource makes good points.  And even I admit at times that those things that happened back then are hard to understand.  All I know, is that deep down, I believe the Bible is God's Word, that the Bible is perfect, that I have chosen to be a child of God through faith, and that one day God Himself, will explain and clarify a lot of questions that I have, as well as other Christians I know that have questions, too.

That being said, it's not for me to ridicule anyone, or try and intimidate others into believing as I do.  I can present what I believe but I also believe that I should have the courtesy to listen to opposite viewpoints, too.  We may not agree with what or who we believe in, and that's fine!  I take some of the opposite viewpoints and delve into them as a challenge to find answers to them.  Some I agree with and some I don't.  If anything, it helps me to research more deeply into my beliefs, why I believe in a God that some people question or try to disprove, and to be able to see both sides of the coin, so-to-speak!

[jordandog]

lol thank you very much, Jdog. But I know for a fact that there isn't a spot for any reasoning with this one. I mean she thinks I'm possessed and that her god cured her brain abnormality. Need I say more? And now she tries to offend people that take her beliefs on just like any good christian would do.   So the best thing to do is just take pity- let sleeping dogs lie and go with the comedic flow they're naively introducing.

You're welcome and yes, I DO realize she is not capable of reasoning. That just hit me wrong. I also saw the 'curing of the brain' and had a whole reply typed out as to wasting 9+ years of my life to go into medicine to treat people like her when in reality (according to Garp and gaylasue ), I did none of the grueling work, God did - and just 'gave' it to me. Pfftt...

[amyrouse]

It freaks me out at how much hatred atheists have for their ancestors history. They hate their ancestors so much that they regard their history as uneducated and fake.

I have ancestors that owned slaves.  I believe wholeheartedly that they were ignorant on that aspect.  Is this wrong?

[teflonfanatic]

It freaks me out at how much hatred atheists have for their ancestors history. They hate their ancestors so much that they regard their history as uneducated and fake.

I have ancestors that owned slaves.  I believe wholeheartedly that they were ignorant on that aspect.  Is this wrong?

Atheists are not ignorant when it comes to that believe me, it's one of their favorite arguments alongside incest.

3. What's wrong with telepathy?

It's fake. And it's dispicable to go around saying that one has magic powers that others don't possess. One exclaiming they can talk to a deity might as well go join the ranks of other fakes like Uri Geller. Leave it in the realms of science fiction and fantasy (x-men, star wars, etc.) Quote from Falconor

I heard that your precious science is making this possible via machines.