I do NOT believe in god

[queenofnines]

You're trying to throw the Bible at us in desperation, not realizing that most atheists have read it many times over and the Bible itself is the very reason many of us stop believing.  Sure, there are some good parts in there like "love your neighbor" and such, but there are many more atrocities and contradictions than "good stuff".  It's obvious to any critical thinker that the Bible was written by scared, primitive, Bronze Age men and therefore should not be regarded as anything but a work of fiction.

[Falconer02]

qeostugei'" (theostugeis)- God haters.

Let me just stop you right here-- how are you convincing an atheist that they hate god when they don't even believe that your god exists? You cannot hate a being that does not exist-- you can only hate what people have said about this fake being. With that said, what's the word for "Hatred for people who develop gods"? Around the table, that would make much more sense.

The proof of this hatred of God is both the false religions and cults that create gods to man's own liking

Through any other different-religions viewpoint, Christianity can be this.

I'm just stealing a quote from a user on that site that pretty much sums up what any "Evil Intelligent" person thinks of this whole thing-- A depraved mind is one that goes to such extremes that it cannot or will not recognize other thoughts excepts his/her own. That includes extreme stands on religion. It causes the person to ignore things like common sense and rational thought. It is incapable of growth or thought.

Apparently the guy who wrote this is a Lutheran Pastor too. He takes a very naive stance on issues. With that said, here's another quote--
"But it sure is proven that you can learn to hate people by actively not trying to get to know them."

[teflonfanatic]

It's said that people still believe in hellfire no disrespect marieelissa but the world hell never appears in the bible!!!! Sheol, Hades do though.

[teflonfanatic]

Hell is mentioned in my bible

That's because the translators but the word hell where Sheol(hebrew) and Hades(Greek) is supposed to be. As for hellfire the Greek word for that is Gehenna. None of these words have the Greek meaning for hell so essentially if you take out the Greek meaning for hell you get common grave of mankind.

[tzs]

Sounds to me that people will try so hard to prove that Santa or the Easter Bunny doesn't exist or wait...No just God.

People want to believe and they have the right to do so, get over it.

If I want to believe that the sky is purple or that rain is glitter falling on me than I am free to do so.

Why do you try to throw out all this Science crap and blah, blah, blah.

People will believe because they want to.

I'M NOT AFRAID OF DEATH AND IF THERE IS NO GOD IT AINT GONNA BE LIKE OH NO! I'm used to life and bad things happening, I just chalk up the non existance of God as one of them if it was proven.

Yep, I am ignorant and damn proud of it....Can't nobody break my style, Can't nobody slow me down, Oh no, I gots to keep on moving.

Have fun burning in Hell you blasphemers. There is a line to draw.

Not ONE PERSON on this planet is NOT affraid of death!  I don't care what you believe in !!! You've probably been to a funeral before, have you seen someone dying in the hospital before? Have you ever been inside of a morgue? When you have those experiences- then you can tell me that you aren't afraid to die. Staring death in the face is one thing, staring death in the face of life is another.......

Oh yea- You wouldn't be able to use that PC of yours without science. No cell phones, no texting, no tweeting, no internet, no telophones, no tv, ect. Without science, you wouldnt be able to go to a hospital and get treatment for an illness. Without Science, people with cancer would be suffering.  Without science, there would be no vaccines, no antibiotics, no way to figure out genetic conditions, If you wear makeup-no science-no makeup! Without science, No car to drive, no safe food to eat, no keeping cats as pets, because no one would know if they are domesticated, or feral, or have rabies-Oh yea, no antivenom for snake bites, no safe drinking water. Without science (CDC) how would you deal with an outbreak? No Organic anything, No going green, no alternative fuel, no flu vaccines,  no testing food for salminella, no answer to any questions in this world.

You see, marriellisa, this is where your ignorance lies. There are many different types of sciences and study that help all of us do things in this world, and to say "Why do you try to throw out all this Science crap and blah, blah, blah" is stupid.

Yes, you can believe what you want to, its your choice. But as sure as you can blow your nose, science is a big part of it!

[queenofnines]

Sounds to me that people will try so hard to prove that Santa or the Easter Bunny doesn't exist or wait...No just God.

Um, the problem with this is that people KNOW Santa and the Easter Bunny are made up; not so with god.  Most people do not know the history, origins, and arguments against their god; they're simply brainwashed into the feel-good dogma and that's that.

People will believe because they want to.

Yes, that is one of the main reasons holding people back from seeing the most obvious points against their feeble faith.

I'M NOT AFRAID OF DEATH AND IF THERE IS NO GOD IT AINT GONNA BE LIKE OH NO! I'm used to life and bad things happening, I just chalk up the non existance of God as one of them if it was proven.

The problem with this is, you will not "realize" there's not a god...you'll just be dead!!  People like you are living their lives with this false sham of "death insurance"...sure, it might make you "feel better" while you're alive, but there's no way to cash in when it matters most.  You'll still end up just like this here atheist: dead.  If more people could stop and think and realize their death insurance is a fraud, you can bet they would no longer "feel better" in regards to fairytale empty promises.  No, they'll have to GROW UP and instead live their life to the fullest now because this life is all they get.

Yep, I am ignorant and damn proud of it....

Oh, man - that is sad.  And definitely not something to be proud of.

Have fun burning in Hell you blasphemers.

Um, I thought you didn't believe in the Christian god?  So why are you speaking of hell??  To you I say have fun wasting your life on pipe dreams!!  That is real "hell"...

Not ONE PERSON on this planet is NOT affraid of death!

Well, there are varying degrees of said fear and some people are on the very low spectrum of fear.  In general, though, it is built into our genes to survive at all costs, so they are the real things to blame for said fear.  Also our consciousness of ourselves, unlike any other animal, plays a HUGE role.

The only thing I personally think that sucks about death is that some people die way too young or of horrible, painful deaths.  In general, though, while the thought of not existing may be "weird", it's really NOT so scary when you consider you have already been dead for 14.5 BILLION years leading up to your birth!!!  Dying will be like that moment when you lose consciousness at sleep at night, or being "put to sleep" during surgery.  I've been put to sleep to get my wisdom teeth pulled and it's pretty freaky when I can't even recall the moment I passed out.  Well, that is what death is going to be like, and then you're gone and will no longer be able to feel or think, so any fear about it will also stop existing as well.  Death sucks way more for the people you leave behind then it will for you when you die.

Oh yea- You wouldn't be able to use that PC of yours without science. No cell phones, no texting, no tweeting, no internet, no telophones, no tv, ect. Without science, you wouldnt be able to go to a hospital and get treatment for an illness. Without Science, people with cancer would be suffering.  Without science, there would be no vaccines, no antibiotics, no way to figure out genetic conditions, If you wear makeup-no science-no makeup! Without science, No car to drive, no safe food to eat, no keeping cats as pets, because no one would know if they are domesticated, or feral, or have rabies-Oh yea, no antivenom for snake bites, no safe drinking water. Without science (CDC) how would you deal with an outbreak? No Organic anything, No going green, no alternative fuel, no flu vaccines,  no testing food for salminella, no answer to any questions in this world.

EXACTLY.  Why do people trust science for pretty much EVERYTHING that's good in their life, but when it comes to what these same scientists have found regarding the origins of our world and bodies, people stick their fingers in their ears and deny it??  

Because they're scared of being a pointless, MORTAL, blip on the cosmological timespan.  Sorry, just because you all don't like the truth doesn't make it not true.

[Falconer02]

I'm not sure how many people have seen this, but I'll post it. Carl Sagan wrote this. It has somewhat of a tie-in to what people are saying here.



“Look again at that dot. That’s here. That’s home. That’s us. On it everyone you love, everyone you know, everyone you ever heard of, every human being who ever was, lived out their lives. The aggregate of our joy and suffering, thousands of confident religions, ideologies, and economic doctrines, every hunter and forager, every hero and coward, every creator and destroyer of civilization, every king and peasant, every young couple in love, every mother and father, hopeful child, inventor and explorer, every teacher of morals, every corrupt politician, every “superstar,” every “supreme leader”, every saint and sinner in the history of our species lived there-on a mote of dust suspended in a sunbeam.

The Earth is a very small stage in a vast cosmic arena. Think of the rivers of blood spilled by all those generals and emperors so that, in glory and triumph, they could become the momentary masters of a fraction of a dot. Think of the endless cruelties visited by the inhabitants of one corner of this pixel on the scarcely distinguishable inhabitants of some other corner, how frequent their misunderstandings, how eager they are to kill one another, how fervent their hatreds.

Our posturings, our imagined self-importance, the delusion that we have some privileged position in the Universe, are challenged by this point of pale light. Our planet is a lonely speck in the great enveloping cosmic dark. In our obscurity, in all this vastness, there is no hint that help will come from elsewhere to save us from ourselves.

The Earth is the only world known so far to harbor life. There is nowhere else, at least in the near future, to which our species could migrate. Visit, yes. Settle, not yet. Like it or not, for the moment the Earth is where we make our stand.

It has been said that astronomy is a humbling and character-building experience. There is perhaps no better demonstration of the folly of human conceits than this distant image of our tiny world. To me, it underscores our responsibility to deal more kindly with one another, and to preserve and cherish the pale blue dot, the only home we’ve ever known.”

[Kymberli0529]

Didn't realize this was still going.  Sad that it has gotten so far away from my intended meaning but glad to see it still gets people talking.   

[bricksfell]

wow

[jordandog]

Then WHY do you always talk about how 'crappy' your life is and cannot wait for it to be over? You have tangible proof of something better?  I think you ought to make your outlook on life here better, or stop complaining about it being so bad. It is what you make it.....

[Falconer02]

You can roll your eyes all you want, but I don't need to prove myself to anyone.

Your postings are pointless then.

[Falconer02]

Humans?

Must...resist...arguing....with...troll....

[queenofnines]

Life isn't better than Heaven, and that is why I can't wait for it to be over. I know I will go to Heaven when I die.
My outlook on life is fine, but compared to Heaven...well life is not so great.

So why don't you just, uh, kill yourself?  Oh wait!  That's against god's "rules"!  

In reality, most of "your kind" (to use your beloved phrase) would be too scared to off themselves, lest THEY BE WRONG about the whole afterlife thing.  As I mentioned before, "your kind" LOVES to take advantage of modern medical SCIENCE when they get in a car accident or get cancer.  Why try to prolong this crappy life, eh?  If god doesn't want you to die, you won't.  So why do you actively take advantage of medical science in these situations?  Only those crazy Christian Scientist people have got it right...they refuse medical care and look, their kids die and get to be with Jesus quicker!

I don't know why believers assume heaven is going to be some orgasm-inducing, Disneyland, acid trip "just for them".  The only thing the Bible says about it, actually, is that you'll be worshiping god forever.  It is not "worshiping god" to play golf with someone on the clouds, sorry.  So 24/7 church service and hymns, never-ending...god being such an insecure child, I'd expect nothing else, would you?

Also...get ready for a lobotomy of some sort.  You'll first need a heavenly lobotomy to "forget" all of those loved ones/friends who didn't quite make the cut into heaven and are burning forever...your second lobotomy will occur regularly, whenever you get bored out of your skull from all that worshiping/having to live forever.  Don't ask how you'll get a lobotomy in the first place without a physical brain (because you're DEAD)...it's magic!   

[jordandog]

Oh wow, I just figured out I am 'one of your kind' Falconer!  Resisting one of 'the other kind', who endlessly mucks up boards and discussions, can be almost impossible. It's bad when new people come on here and start thinking the place is full of head cases like a certain someone, when there are actually a lot of very sane and helpful people here. I say that from my own recent experience when I joined and started reading through the Forums. So 'our kind' must hold our ground and continue making reasonable posts and putting plausible ideas out there. If we don't, the delusions might become real! 

[muush88]

My kind just wants to know  (coz im ignorant when it comes to religion) is all you have to do is believe in god to get to heaven? you dont have to show any kind of compassion for other people? And why Marieelissa do you donate food and clothes to the church if you hate people?   Wouldnt you just throw it away?

I will be glad to burn in hell if they let you in heaven. Heaven dosnt sound all that wonderful reading your posts