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Re: I do NOT believe in god
« Reply #300 on: March 06, 2010, 12:29:28 pm »
THE ONLY THING I HAVE TO SAY IS IF THERE IS A GOD AND NO ONE HAS EVER SEE HIM HOW DO YOU KNOW WHAT HE LOOKS LIKE.

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Re: I do NOT believe in god
« Reply #301 on: March 06, 2010, 12:31:54 pm »
The big bang theory is not true

In regards to your little picture: we are not claiming that "there was nothing and nothing happened to nothing"; in the beginning of the universe as we know it, all of the chemical elements necessary for life were contained within a very small space, and due to a reaction, it eventually led to everything we have now.  Do we know if those chemical elements "always" existed?  No.  Do we know why there was a reaction, this wonderful accident that is life?  No, but sh*t happens, it's not that hard to grasp.  To have a great deal of it figured out going back 14 billion years is pretty good by my book.  Sorry if that much science and time span isn't good enough for you!
"It is far better to grasp the universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring."
-- Carl Sagan

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Re: I do NOT believe in god
« Reply #302 on: March 06, 2010, 04:50:48 pm »
In regards to your little picture: we are not claiming that "there was nothing and nothing happened to nothing"; in the beginning of the universe as we know it, all of the chemical elements necessary for life were contained within a very small space, and due to a reaction, it eventually led to everything we have now.  Do we know if those chemical elements "always" existed?  No.  Do we know why there was a reaction, this wonderful accident that is life?  No, but sh*t happens, it's not that hard to grasp.  To have a great deal of it figured out going back 14 billion years is pretty good by my book.  Sorry if that much science and time span isn't good enough for you!
And tell me where this matter came from? How did that get here? What is your explanation to that?
And this big giant explosion just happend and it created a world with a sun and moon to keep it perfectly livable.....lol yeah right. That is crazy. And who is to say that God didn't have anything to do with that big bang? Maybe God created that big unexplanable reaction. This world was not a big accident.  Your defense is going to be "And yeah God creating the world makes so much more sense hahahahhahaha....." But I guess you just don't realize how illogical your little theories are.

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Re: I do NOT believe in god
« Reply #303 on: March 06, 2010, 08:10:59 pm »
guys this is just simple
let the people believe on what they want. its there choice
you force people to believe or not to believe its just wrong
if you believe in those categories back up your facts

what you believe in its important to you and your faith don't let others try to pull you out of it just because on what they see and hear the bad things. be prideful but don't try to boast it just have an open mind to others and be considerate.

lets have an good debate don't try to label on just "Christians" try to discuss in all religious aspects

not a mod here but these are some of the things that should be said. you guys are just focusing on one point and now you guys are pushing people around with there faith.


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Re: I do NOT believe in god
« Reply #304 on: March 06, 2010, 08:43:34 pm »


I would guess the matter didn't come from anywhere and simply existed just like God didn't get created or come from anywhere but simply exists.
Tell me this...Where did God come from? How did he get there? What created him. oh and by the way, I believe in God.

I knew someone would bring this up. God has just always existed. He has just always been here and always will be. Atheists just seem to always think they have some kind of logical explanation to eveything.. So I want their opinion. I want to know where they think the matter came from.

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Re: I do NOT believe in god
« Reply #305 on: March 06, 2010, 08:44:45 pm »
"Not looking forward to it" is different than "fearing" it.  Eloi Eloi Lama Sabachthani translated is, "My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?

Now you're just splitting hairs. I don't know what kind of robot you think Jesus was but let me assure you he was very much a man who displayed a broad range of human emotions throughout his recorded life-- from compassion to rage, and from assurance to dread. You're attempting to dehumanize a man I hold in high regard here, and it's pretty insulting to say the least. I understand you have this idea of Jesus as some otherworldly being, but even your own doctrine preaches that before his resurrection he was merely mortal and subject to all of our faults and shortcomings. To claim a man-- any man, deified or otherwise-- would not feel fear while tortured is just preposterous.


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Re: I do NOT believe in god
« Reply #306 on: March 06, 2010, 08:47:36 pm »
guys this is just simple
let the people believe on what they want. its there choice
you force people to believe or not to believe its just wrong
if you believe in those categories back up your facts
what you believe in its important to you and your faith don't let others try to pull you out of it just because on what they see and hear the bad things. be prideful but don't try to boast it just have an open mind to others and be considerate.
lets have an good debate don't try to label on just "Christians" try to discuss in all religious aspects
not a mod here but these are some of the things that should be said. you guys are just focusing on one point and now you guys are pushing people around with there faith.
That's what I said at first. Lol but these people just don't get it. I mean seriously what harm is religion doing anyway? It's like they think they are helping others by convincing other people to not be Christian.. kinda strange.

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Re: I do NOT believe in god
« Reply #307 on: March 06, 2010, 08:48:42 pm »
That's what I said at first. Lol but these people just don't get it. I mean seriously what harm is religion doing anyway? It's like they think they are helping others by convincing other people to not be Christian.. kinda strange.

Surely I'm not included in "these people"?  :angel12:
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Re: I do NOT believe in god
« Reply #308 on: March 06, 2010, 09:03:48 pm »
I just hate when a church stands up for the pastor (priest or any other higher up) when they have committed such awful sins, sins that they preach to followers about everyday. I'd have so much more respect for the church stepping forward and admitting that the pastor-the one everyone trusted- had f-ed up. I just have NO tolerance in a church, or those who claim to be "saved", but who refuse to report sexual or any kind of abuse for the sake that the church or faith's name look bad. I'm all about to each their own, and I've never cared about or based friendships off of what others believe-hey whatever gets you through life and keeps you happy. But, the whole reason this topic gets to me sometimes are the Christians (not all Christians) who preach to others about what they HAVE to do to get accepted into the gates of Heaven-when they are judging those who don't believe and claim they are going to hell or will be stuck in purgatory because some pastor or priest didn't throw some water that was "holy" on you before you died and now you will be sent to hell w/fire and demons and Satan will poke you w/his pitch fork...*bleep* there are gonna be a LOT of people in this hell place--think about it, if what they claim is true more than half the WORLD will be in hell. I'm gonna stop now because i don't usually get this into the God topic.
p.s. i was a victim of this so called faith who was supposed to love and protect God's children-so i have strong feelings of those who lie for the sake
p.s.s this was my first post and my first forum or community board thing i've ever been on...EVER. This is pretty cool

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Re: I do NOT believe in god
« Reply #309 on: March 06, 2010, 09:10:09 pm »
That's

Surely I'm not included in "these people"?  :angel12:





Lol actually I was not referring to you at all.

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Re: I do NOT believe in god
« Reply #310 on: March 06, 2010, 09:17:41 pm »
I just hate when a church stands up for the pastor (priest or any other higher up) when they have committed such awful sins, sins that they preach to followers about everyday. I'd have so much more respect for the church stepping forward and admitting that the pastor-the one everyone trusted- had f-ed up.

I totally agree. If a preist or pastor messes up he should be kicked out of the church. They should not cover up for his mistakes. That's almost as wrong as the things that he has done. This is probably another reason I don't go to church.
« Last Edit: March 06, 2010, 09:35:59 pm by laceybriglia »

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Re: I do NOT believe in god
« Reply #311 on: March 06, 2010, 09:53:28 pm »
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And tell me where this matter came from? How did that get here? What is your explanation to that?
And this big giant explosion just happend and it created a world with a sun and moon to keep it perfectly livable.....lol yeah right. That is crazy.

You do understand people thought the world was flat for most of mankinds history (among other theories). Those people were incapable of figuring it out due to lack of a geometrical understanding and...well...no rockets! People also thought angels created rainbows. Just because they didn't understand then that the world was round or had discovered how the visible spectrum works does not mean they were right about it being flat or angels making the colors. The same can be said about your reasoning here-- you're just taking the simple path and going with the flow because it's the only easy explanation mankind has right now and won't budge from to research other theories in depth.

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And who is to say that God didn't have anything to do with that big bang? Maybe God created that big unexplanable reaction. This world was not a big accident.  Your defense is going to be "And yeah God creating the world makes so much more sense hahahahhahaha....." But I guess you just don't realize how illogical your little theories are.

What you have constantly failed to do is post proof that god did these things. But if he did, he did a slipshod job engineering it. Excuse me for sounding rude but all you have shown is a very narrow-minded point of view quoting creationist sites and thinking that our world is the essence of perfection. Perfect to whom? Us? Or the universe? It is far from for our species. Even though it benefits us, we are slaves to nature too. We have the threat of climate problems constantly. Desertification can destroy massive amounts of land creating massive famine. Plate tectonics make mankinds achievements extremely fragile. Species of animals are always going endangered upsetting the balance of things. We constantly fight the evolution of insects building up tolerances for our insecticides to save our crops. Age-oriented, the earth is in a constant red-alert state due to the threat of asteroid bombardment coming in from between Mars and Jupiter. This is just the tip of the iceburg.

So maybe god did. Maybe god didn't. We have watched planets and stars form from matter and explode into matter. All of these are spectacular sights. But I wouldn't call these things accidents. It's the nature of our universe-- it's how it has always been therefore there's nothing abnormal about it. Like I was trying to state above, who knows what else we'll find out (there).

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For Him to be fearful would have told Believers that "fear" is alright and it isn't, as fear is one of Satan's tools.

I fear people with this mindset running rampant in our government. Is that just realistic or is it satan screwing with me?

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Re: I do NOT believe in god
« Reply #312 on: March 06, 2010, 10:09:36 pm »
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What you have constantly failed to do is post proof that god did these things.
And how exactly have I failed? Of course there is no definite proof God did these thing but what I have been doing is stating the reasons I believe God has created this earth. There is also no definite proof of the big bang theory. I honestly don't care if you believe God, or the big bang created this earth... I mean that is you're opinion.
But I believe God has created this world. I am not narrow minded I've actually looked into the big bang theory and so many other theories and religions. Christianity is the only thing that makes sense to me.


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Re: I do NOT believe in god
« Reply #314 on: March 06, 2010, 10:49:35 pm »
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And how exactly have I failed? Of course there is no definite proof God did these thing but what I have been doing is stating the reasons I believe God has created this earth. There is also no definite proof of the big bang theory. I honestly don't care if you believe God, or the big bang created this earth... I mean that is you're opinion. But I believe God has created this world. I am not narrow minded I've actually looked into the big bang theory and so many other theories and religions. Christianity is the only thing that makes sense to me.

Could you explain the big bang theory accompanied with explanations from scientists that you can refute with the existence of god? Also, could you send me the names of the science books you used in your studying? College courses? Do me a favor and don't use any creationist websites for this one as that easily taints and destroys the argument. I'm just curious to know the education of your opinion. The reason I ask this is because you use 'Christianity' and 'makes sense' in the same sentence.

"I think the world is round. I'm not completely sure, but I'm open to hearing your argument on why it's not."
"I think the world is flat. It makes sense to me. You're illogical with your little 'theory' lololol"
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