I do NOT believe in god

[queenofnines]

Where exactly in the Bible  are these "boatload of verses" you're talking about?

Kill People Who Don't Listen to Priests

"Anyone arrogant enough to reject the verdict of the judge or of the priest who represents the LORD your God must be put to death." (Deuteronomy 17:12 NLT)

Kill Witches

"You should not let a sorceress live." (Exodus 22:17 NAB)

Kill Homosexuals
"If a man lies with a male as with a women, both of them shall be put to death for their abominable deed; they have forfeited their lives." (Leviticus 20:13 NAB)
 
Kill Fortunetellers

"A man or a woman who acts as a medium or fortuneteller shall be put to death by stoning; they have no one but themselves to blame for their death." (Leviticus 20:27 NAB)

Death for Hitting Dad

"Whoever strikes his father or mother shall be put to death." (Exodus 21:15 NAB)

Death for Cursing Parents

    1) If one curses his father or mother, his lamp will go out at the coming of darkness.  (Proverbs 20:20 NAB)

    2) All who curse their father or mother must be put to death.  They are guilty of a capital offense.  (Leviticus 20:9 NLT)

Death for Adultery

"If a man commits adultery with another man's wife, both the man and the woman must be put to death." (Leviticus 20:10 NLT)

Death for Fornication

"A priest's daughter who loses her honor by committing fornication and thereby dishonors her father also, shall be burned to death." (Leviticus 21:9 NAB)

Kill Nonbelievers

"They entered into a covenant to seek the Lord, the God of their fathers, with all their heart and soul; and everyone who would not seek the Lord, the God of Israel, was to be put to death, whether small or great, whether man or woman." (2 Chronicles 15:12-13 NAB)

Kill False Prophets

"If a man still prophesies, his parents, father and mother, shall say to him, "You shall not live, because you have spoken a lie in the name of the Lord."  When he prophesies, his parents, father and mother, shall thrust him through." (Zechariah 13:3 NAB)

Kill Women Who Are Not Virgins On Their Wedding Night

"But if this charge is true (that she wasn't a virgin on her wedding night), and evidence of the girls virginity is not found, they shall bring the girl to the entrance of her fathers house and there her townsman shall stone her to death, because she committed a crime against Israel by her unchasteness in her father's house.  Thus shall you purge the evil from your midst." (Deuteronomy  22:20-21 NAB)

Kill People for Working on the Sabbath

"The LORD then gave these further instructions to Moses: 'Tell the people of Israel to keep my Sabbath day, for the Sabbath is a sign of the covenant between me and you forever.  It helps you to remember that I am the LORD, who makes you holy.  Yes, keep the Sabbath day, for it is holy.  Anyone who desecrates it must die; anyone who works on that day will be cut off from the community.  Work six days only, but the seventh day must be a day of total rest.  I repeat: Because the LORD considers it a holy day, anyone who works on the Sabbath must be put to death." (Exodus 31:12-15 NLT)

Kill Bratty Children

"From there Elisha went up to Bethel.  While he was on his way, some small boys came out of the city and jeered at him.  "Go up baldhead," they shouted, "go up baldhead!"  The prophet turned and saw them, and he cursed them in the name of the Lord.  Then two shebears came out of the woods and tore forty two of the children to pieces." (2 Kings 2:23-24 NAB)

Kill Sons of Sinners

"Make ready to slaughter his sons for the guilt of their fathers; Lest they rise and posses the earth, and fill the breadth of the world with tyrants." (Isaiah 14:21 NAB)


...These are just a few of the MANY examples of god wanting death for people who disobey. 

I don't understand how believers can read this stuff plain as day and make excuses for it.  Saying "that was meant for a different time" is not true because Jesus said you are not to take away any word from the law!  And anyway, that kind of *bleep* should not be in a "holy" book, spoken by a "loving, just" god under ANY circumstances.  And if you are in the camp that thinks such horrible verses are just metaphors or something, you are extremely ignorant.  I thought you saw the Bible as an "instructions for life" and history book, no?

[angel379227]

Saying "that was meant for a different time" is not true because Jesus said you are not to take away any word from the law!

I may be mistaken, but I don't believe there's any scriptural evidence that Jesus himself ever said this. I wouldn't mind being proven wrong though.

[queenofnines]

The difference between Believers & non-Believers is that the non-Believers sin because that is what they are supposed to do---they don't need to make an effort not to.  Believers have been delivered from sin----they can and do still sin but they do it because they WANT to...not because they have to or they don't know any better. Being a Believer doesn't mean "life is all cushy now because God is looking out for you"...Believers don't fear death because to leave the earth is simply to go be with Jesus, which is where they yearn to be anyway.

It sounds like you are claiming that people who do not subscribe to god are without morals.  Let me say that many things you would label as "sin" are not bad at all.  The only things that are bad are activities that directly, physically harm another person's life/well-being (read: not your own life, as that's your choice).  And that is because you are endangering the only life another person will ever get.  It is your right to do whatever you please to your own life, but not to another person's.

As for believers not fearing death....that is a lie!  Tell me, then, why a Christian is in panic mode, desperate for the services of an ambulance, hospital, and DOCTORS when disaster strikes?  They are using earthly means to try to keep themselves around a little longer.  If it really wasn't "their time to go", god willing, then it should not be such a rush and desperation to utilize the same resources that atheists have available to them to not die.  What are you guys so worried about?  Why try to fight to stay in this world, which is pretty sh*tty compared to heaven, right?  Because "god's not done with you yet"?  Aren't you kind of deciding that by using outside means to keep yourself alive?

[queenofnines]

Saying "that was meant for a different time" is not true because Jesus said you are not to take away any word from the law!

I may be mistaken, but I don't believe there's any scriptural evidence that Jesus himself ever said this. I wouldn't mind being proven wrong though.

"For truly, I say to you, till heaven and earth pass away, not an iota, not a dot, will pass the law until all is accomplished.  Whoever then relaxes one of the least of these commandments and teaches men so, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but he who does them and teaches them shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven." (Jesus in Matthew 5:18-19 RSV)

"It is easier for Heaven and Earth to pass away than for the smallest part of the letter of the law to become invalid." (Luke 16:17 NAB)

"Do not think that I have come to abolish the law or the prophets.  I have come not to abolish but to fulfill.  Amen, I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not the smallest part or the smallest part of a letter will pass from the law, until all things have taken place." (Matthew 5:17 NAB)

"All scripture is inspired by God and is useful for teaching, for refutation, for correction, and for training in righteousness..." (2 Timothy 3:16 NAB)

"Know this first of all, that there is no prophecy of scripture that is a matter of personal interpretation, for no prophecy ever came through human will; but rather human beings moved by the holy Spirit spoke under the influence of God." (2 Peter 20-21 NAB)

Just a few. 

[queenofnines]

Anyway I'm curious now exactly why are you so sure Christianity is completely false? I mean seriously I've heard everything and nothing has made me give up my faith.

I'm sure you mean "everything" in the sense of this forum, correct?  Because a few solid sentences here and there aren't going to phase you.  It might get you thinking a few years down the line, but while you are in the midst of a steel-trap mind for Christianity, not even the most convincing proofs are going to alter a person who is stubborn to change.

It would turn into a novel if I were to list all of the many reasons I know there is not a god (at least not the Christian god).  There would be a mountain of logic, evidence, rational proofs, and common sense, and not a single one would matter until you're ready to hear them.  You have to have the courage to dare to accept that everything you thought you knew and we're so convinced of and so desperately hopeful for could be wrong. Until you can truly admit that the alternative could be possible, you will continue to make excuses and shut yourself out to all logic and reason.

[angel379227]

"For truly, I say to you, till heaven and earth pass away, not an iota, not a dot, will pass the law until all is accomplished.  Whoever then relaxes one of the least of these commandments and teaches men so, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but he who does them and teaches them shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven." (Jesus in Matthew 5:18-19 RSV)

It's unclear precisely which commandments Jesus was referring to here, but, when taken in context, it's highly suggestive that he was in fact referring to his own commandments rather than those of the Old Testament. Even if not, I honestly doubt he was referring to the laws of Leviticus or Deuteronomy when he referenced "commandments", as these were normally only available to the high priest of that era.  

And the rest of the scriptural evidence you provided is not based off of words spoken by Jesus.

[laceybriglia]

Anyway I'm curious now exactly why are you so sure Christianity is completely false? I mean seriously I've heard everything and nothing has made me give up my faith.

I'm sure you mean "everything" in the sense of this forum, correct?  

Lol are you serious? Of course not. I'm talking about people I communicate in real life have tried to convince me there is no God as well.. Nothing they have said has even made me doubt my faith.
Which is why you haven't answered my question. All of your scientific theories are just as dumb to me as you think Christianity is.

[5964lynn]

On this subject it's a sticky one. Now you state that you don't believe in God. Well to each their own thinking but I feel like I know different.(4) years ago I was on my death bed the doctors had gave up on me there was nothing else that they could do.
I had been in ICU for a month with no response to anything. I just woke up one morning and my first words were where am I.I didn't have a strong faith at first either. Now everyday I say THANK YOU GOD for another day to be here to see my children and grandchildren. Just my opinion.

[angel379227]

I've witnessed such miracles myself first-hand, and I have personally had an experience speaking in tongues-- quite a frightening experience to say the least. Both of these occurrences were guided by people of different religion, each strong in their faith, and has made me a very strong believer in the power of the human mind.

[walksalone11]

I believe there is only one Creator, tho is known by many names.
I believe that many beliefs that people credit Creator for are in reality man made.
I believe that so called miracles occur to people of many different faiths and to those of no faith at all.

[queenofnines]

I believe there is only one Creator, tho is known by many names.
I believe that many beliefs that people credit Creator for are in reality man made.
I believe that so called miracles occur to people of many different faiths and to those of no faith at all.

Mushyness at its finest.

[lightningclix]

I believe in Fusion Cash!    sorry, just had to say that.... lol

[queenofnines]

                        ONLY JESUS....there may be tons of "stories" about other "saviors and rule-makers" who will reward you eternally besides Jesus but when they died, I don't recall hearing about how they rose from the dead like Jesus did...   and no...NOT everyone fears death

At least 6 other gods died and were resurrected prior to Jesus:

Horus, Osiris, Attis of Phrygia, Krishna, Mithra of Persia, and Dionysus.

I don't fear death.  

[queenofnines]

I don't understand why you would mention repeatedly that Jesus said you are not to take away any word from the law....and then use many verses taken from a Catholic Bible to prove points when the Catholic Bible is one version that is known to have been "modified" to suit the purpose of the Catholic faith.....

"Catholic" Bible?  A verse is a verse and it's the same message in any translation.  The foundation of the Bible is messed up no matter who modifies it.  I wasn't aware those acronyms following the Scripture were something worthy of being picked on.  They were referenced from an online, non-religious source, and instead of being like, "Oh, it says the same thing in the NIV, too!" you make an excuse to act like such Scripture is invalid.

[queenofnines]

Horus, Osiris, Attis of Phrygia, Krishna, Mithra of Persia, and Dionysus  that whole topic is covered better than I have time to explain at the site:gotquestions.org/Jesus-myth.html

And I'll redirect to the page on that site that says I am saved because I believed once, so you all don't have to worry about me.