I do NOT believe in god

[Azanne07]

I really do not care how you or anyone else believes in god or not. this is none of my business and my religous views are none of your business.

[Lovely_Deception]

Outside of the bible, God is the unexplained component of science. Take the theory of evolution. Evolution can only go back so far. Once you get down to the atom there is a pausing point. Where did the atom come from? Why does the interaction between molecules exist? What causes it? I am no physicist, but the question remains. What about before? This is where God comes into play. God may be different for many people, but the fact that there is SOMETHING is not arguable.

Just because science hasn't answered certain things does not discount the very plausible reality that one day it will.  Saying it's god for the things that we don't have the answers to yet is very poor logic indeed.  Physical laws can exist "just because" just as you claim god can exist "just because", and it's a thousand times more rational to look at scientific EVIDENCE and have the courage to admit everything was and is possible without a god.  God is a cop-out to the reality you're all too scared to admit.

What specific reality are we all too scared to admit? Science and religion go together. One does not disprove the other.

How can physical law just exist? This requires faith, it is not proven. However, if you believe that it just exist, with no start or finish, I cannot argue with that.

I agree it's a possibility that scientists can discover what came before the atom, but you're missing my point. Where did anything come from? Where did the very basic energy that created the components of the atom? There is GOING to be a point when you simply CANNOT go back any farther, and something is going to have to fill it in.

[Storm61115]

hi! i dont blame u for not believing in god. everyone has their own beliefs. sometimes i dont believe in him either coz of the things that have been happening. all i know and believe is everything happens or has happened for a reason. what's the reason? who knows.

[queenofnines]

What specific reality are we all too scared to admit? Science and religion go together. One does not disprove the other.

How can physical law just exist? This requires faith, it is not proven. However, if you believe that it just exist, with no start or finish, I cannot argue with that.

I agree it's a possibility that scientists can discover what came before the atom, but you're missing my point. Where did anything come from? Where did the very basic energy that created the components of the atom? There is GOING to be a point when you simply CANNOT go back any farther, and something is going to have to fill it in.

The average person would be scared sh*tless to find that there is: no god, no purpose, no one looking out for you, no afterlife, no free will.  That is the reality I am referring to and the one that the majority of people try to cover up with a god.

Faith is a term exclusive to Christians, thanks.  "It doesn't take faith to believe in physical laws," my husband said as he let go of his Xbox controller and let it fall to the couch, demonstrating gravity.  "They are consistently all around us."

As for having "something to fill it in", why is it acceptable to slap a god label on the things we haven't discovered yet and call it quits?  And even if we never have full knowledge of certain things, why is a mystical being the trump card solution?  Why does god not have his origins questioned?  Simply because you say so and "because he's god"?  That sounds like something a kid would say.

We have a good amount of scientific data regarding our origins already, and for a person to try to argue against it really shows how desperate they are to cling to their feeble beliefs.  The questions you SHOULD be asking go back to your god and the Bible.  Can I read of all of these horrible things god did and truly delude myself into thinking he is a lovable, just guy?  Do I seriously believe the world was created in 7 days 6,000 years ago or that Eve was tempted by a talking snake and ate a piece of fruit and that's why there is so much bad in the world today?  Why are all of god's "miracles" in today's world things that could totally happen without divine intervention?  Why do we have to "believe" in god anyway?  If god really existed it would be a fact, not something you had to "believe" in.

[Falconer02]

What specific reality are we all too scared to admit? Science and religion go together. One does not disprove the other.

Seriously? Come on now. Science and religion are major rivals. Religion allows for the impossible. Science disproves religion all the time. I'll whip out the old picture here--

This requires faith, it is not proven. However, if you believe that it just exist, with no start or finish, I cannot argue with that

This requires belief. Not faith. Faith is spiritual-based whereas a belief is reality-based as queenof9's example on her husbands xbox thing.

There is GOING to be a point when you simply CANNOT go back any farther, and something is going to have to fill it in.

The human mind cannot grasp the infinite, so we are impaired to say that this is true. This is a prime example of throwing the "god-label" on things we cannot understand (yet).

[queenofnines]

Great diagram.    It's huge, too, so hopefully some Christian will see it.

[Falconer02]

06/06/06 has already passed us, troll.

[Galactoid]

Just joining in here, i'll say that i'm personally agnostic.

I believe that it's just as impossible to prove that God doesn't exist or does exist.

I have no problem with God, but my pet peeve is with religion itself. For those that religion has personally helped and made them better people, rock on. But we can all agree that there have been many people of every religion in the past who have done bad things in the name of God.

Also, doesn't religion basically imply that one is right and everyone else is wrong? I think humanity gets so caught up with the RIGHT WAY to worship God instead of simply worshiping him (her? it? force?).

I look forward to a world where we all get along, whether it will happen or not.

[kesto4]

Figured all these people are posting about how they think god exists and blah, blah, blah.......so I thought I'd create my own topic.
I do not believe nor will I ever.  You can preach and testimony all you want, I grew up a Catholic, and was one until about two years ago.  I have researched, studied, and believed until that point.  I know alllll about being a christian, faith, god, etc.
Personally, I don't believe anyone should rub it into anyone's face that they are goin to hell for not believing...
That they are wrong for not believing...
That the person preaching is better than the non-believers or feels sorry for the non-believers because they don't believe...

Everyone is equal.  We need to respect ourselves, respect our fellow man, and respect our earth before we give respect to some statue who we 'think' died on a piece of wood.  Doesn't the bible tell you not to worship man-made idols?  Well, were you there at the time of christ?  Isn't the bible a tool of a man-made idol IE the cross?  Isn't the figure of your christ on a cross in churches an idol?  Furthermore, how do christians believe so differently amongst themselves...IE..Baptists, Catholics, Etc....... They all condemn each other because they all interpret the bible differently.  It's all very silly to me.  I believe in equality, I belive in peace and justice and love.  I don't believe there is some evil(my definition) person waiting for me at some pearly gates telling me that I lived badly so he can send me to hell.  Too many evil doers, injustices, and just plain nastyness in this would to suggest to me that someone is watching over us. 

I feel sorry for you, sir. Having no belief is the most empty feeling in the world. We don't worship the figure on a cross, it is to remember Jesus. We never worship it of any sort.

[angel379227]

Also, doesn't religion basically imply that one is right and everyone else is wrong?

That's mostly a Christian misinterpretation.

[Galactoid]

Also, doesn't religion basically imply that one is right and everyone else is wrong?

That's mostly a Christian misinterpretation.

Not really, i come from a jewish background, and a lot of jews will say that other christianity is false.

Though perhaps i should word what i said differently. Few religions say that they're right and the rest are wrong outright. But that's what causes the extremists to go and antagonize others. Speaking of which, that's what i have a problem with the most. Extremism. I'm not attacking any person for the religion they believe in, and i have friends of many different religions. It's when religion is forced upon someone else that grinds my gears.

[laceybriglia]

Okay aren't you just so cool! Your just so awesome for posting in a MONEY MAKING forum how you don't believe in God and you are obviously trying to stir up problems and contraversy. You said you believe in love and peace if that were true even the littlest bit you wouldn't have even started this thread it's completely pointless and it's just a rant because you are obviously mad at the world. I believe in God and honestly most of my friends actually do not believe in God whatsoever! But we never talk about it you know why? Because we don't want to cause problems... I hope you atleast feel cool for posting this...

[Falconer02]

I feel sorry for you, sir. Having no belief is the most empty feeling in the world.

It's only an empty feeling when you choose to deny it while thinking the aspects are still there. When you realize it's really not there, you have nothing to worry about.

Okay aren't you just so cool! Your just so awesome for posting in a MONEY MAKING forum how you don't believe in God and you are obviously trying to stir up problems and contraversy.

Woah woah woah! Calm down there!

You said you believe in love and peace if that were true even the littlest bit you wouldn't have even started this thread it's completely pointless and it's just a rant because you are obviously mad at the world.

Actually this thread was made because the off-topic forum was being flooded with "PROOF GOD EXISTS PT. 1" "PT. 2" "PT. 3" and "I BELIEVE IN JESUS! DO YOU?" and a bunch of others I forget the name of. They were full of religious nutjobs that were spreading their infection. Just FYI.

But we never talk about it you know why? Because we don't want to cause problems... I hope you atleast feel cool for posting this...

You've never had a discussion or argument with them? You should! You can learn a lot about people. Man, I have a lot of stories I could tell you!

[laceybriglia]

^ No I haven't because I know they do not agree with my beliefs. I do not like to cause issues I do not want to start problems that are completely avoidable. They are my friends regardless and I respect their beliefs I do not judge people because they do not believe a certain thing. But one thing I hate is when a person literally tries to make someone mad.. I never saw those other posts but they sound like they atleast had a positive attitude. I wouldn't care if they were talking about being any religion as long as they were being genuine and not being negative. I don't like this thread. It just seems like the OP was trying to start problems she has a very negative attitude about the whole Christian religion.

[Galactoid]

Well, look. Regardless of how this thread started out, i now see it as a way to calmly discuss God and religion as rational adults, all the while doing our best not to offend anyone. There are people with many different views in this thread, after.

I, for one, disagree with the topic creator on athieism. Just as i see no way to prove there is a God, i see no definitive way to prove otherwise, as well. But that doesn't mean i'm going to fault her for believeing as such.