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mlmhome

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Should the president send the troops to Iraq!
« on: December 02, 2009, 03:52:28 am »
I will like someone's opinion please!

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Re: Should the president send the troops to Iraq!
« Reply #1 on: December 02, 2009, 06:02:17 am »
I don't thinks he is considering Iraq, he was trying to decide whether to send more to Afganistan.  I guess he finally made up his mind.  Glad it wasn't urgent.

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Re: Should the president send the troops to Iraq!
« Reply #2 on: December 02, 2009, 07:57:11 am »
I really believe that in this day and time, war is obsolete.

It also pisses me off how the US continues to run all over the world shoving US values and agendas down peoples throats.


No wonder, the US has lost so much favor in the world view and has become the laughing stock of the world. If you doubt that, the internet makes it very very simple to ask folks in many far off lands what their opinion of the US is......I have had a keen interest in this particular perception for several years.

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Re: Should the president send the troops to Iraq!
« Reply #3 on: December 02, 2009, 10:33:20 am »
No, we had no business there in the first place.

Nobody is considering sending more troops to Iraq.

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Re: Should the president send the troops to Iraq!
« Reply #4 on: December 02, 2009, 07:25:35 pm »
NO!!!!! I'M A MILITARY WIFE AND SENDING 30,000 MORE TROOPS WOULD ONLY WORRY MOTHER'S, FATHER'S, SIS AND BRO EVEN MORE.  18 MONTH TIME LINE, IT WOULD TAKE LONGER THAN 18 MONTHS FOR THE U.S. TO PULL OUT.
WE HAVE PROBLEMS IN OUR OWN BACK YARD.  FAMILIES LOOSING THERE HOMES TO FORECLOSURE, HOMELESSNESS, UNEMPLOYMENT AND SENIOR CITIZENS SITTING AT THERE KITCHEN TABLES TRYING TO DECIDE IF THEY CAN AFFORD THERE MEDICATION THIS MONTH BECAUSE MEDICARE ONLY COVERS A CERTAIN PERCENTAGE.  THE ELDERLY SHOULDN'T HAVE TO MAKE THOSE KIND OF FINANICAL DECISIONS EVERY MONTH. AFTER ALL, THEY ONLY WORKED 30+ YEARS OF THERE LIVES AND NEVER ASKED FOR A HAND-OUT. 

EXCUSE ME FOR BEING PISSSSSED!!!!!!!!!!!

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Re: Should the president send the troops to Iraq!
« Reply #5 on: December 02, 2009, 08:11:46 pm »
NO!!!!! I'M A MILITARY WIFE AND SENDING 30,000 MORE TROOPS WOULD ONLY WORRY MOTHER'S, FATHER'S, SIS AND BRO EVEN MORE.  18 MONTH TIME LINE, IT WOULD TAKE LONGER THAN 18 MONTHS FOR THE U.S. TO PULL OUT.
WE HAVE PROBLEMS IN OUR OWN BACK YARD.  FAMILIES LOOSING THERE HOMES TO FORECLOSURE, HOMELESSNESS, UNEMPLOYMENT AND SENIOR CITIZENS SITTING AT THERE KITCHEN TABLES TRYING TO DECIDE IF THEY CAN AFFORD THERE MEDICATION THIS MONTH BECAUSE MEDICARE ONLY COVERS A CERTAIN PERCENTAGE.  THE ELDERLY SHOULDN'T HAVE TO MAKE THOSE KIND OF FINANICAL DECISIONS EVERY MONTH. AFTER ALL, THEY ONLY WORKED 30+ YEARS OF THERE LIVES AND NEVER ASKED FOR A HAND-OUT.  

EXCUSE ME FOR BEING PISSSSSED!!!!!!!!!!!

People here are worried about unemployment and foreclosure.

People in Afghanistan are worried about whether their house will be blown up or they'll lose their life to a car bomb in the local market picking up food for dinner.

While both are cause for concern and need to be strongly addressed, I hope it's agreed upon that one takes slight precedence over the other.  People in the military opted to join, and I thank them for every single thing they sacrifice, but "it will just cause families to worry if we send them" is a sorry excuse at best.
« Last Edit: December 02, 2009, 08:16:06 pm by liljp617 »

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Re: Should the president send the troops to Iraq!
« Reply #6 on: December 03, 2009, 04:16:34 am »
I believe that the war is "right" so to say...But I think we need more men and women in the Armed Forces. BUT What's with them not letting someone join the military if that someone has a tattoo on their arm?

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Re: Should the president send the troops to Iraq!
« Reply #7 on: December 03, 2009, 06:57:12 am »
No , but he'll do it anyway .....the goverement has a no limit policy when it comes to bloodshed it seems

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Re: Should the president send the troops to Iraq!
« Reply #8 on: December 03, 2009, 09:34:24 am »
well im not to sure

its kinda both ways

i mean yes i want the troops to come bak to the U.S. and be safe

tho it goes both ways where if we pulled out now then we are ending the war

and the war isnt over

i truely wish it was over and hope it ends soon

and we do get the troops home sooner

liljp617

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Re: Should the president send the troops to Iraq!
« Reply #9 on: December 03, 2009, 09:41:51 am »
No , but he'll do it anyway .....the goverement has a no limit policy when it comes to bloodshed it seems

You'd probably be quite surprised if you were to compare how expendable soldiers were during WWI/WWII vs current times.

We've lost around 5,200 members of the US military in Iraq and Afghanistan combined (about 8 years).  The US lost over 318,000 in WWII (about 3-4 years).  The Soviet Union lost 8 million in WWII.  England lost over 580,000.

Obviously these were much larger wars taking place on multiple continents, but there was still an attitude that soldiers of that time were inexpensive, and thus expendable.  Now you have a soldier who is probably wearing equipment worth thousands of dollars -- they're no longer nearly as expendable.  Money talks.

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Re: Should the president send the troops to Iraq!
« Reply #10 on: December 05, 2009, 08:38:00 am »
It's great how there's never a problem finding more money to go blow things up, but it's damn near impossible to find money for thing to help everyday Americans.  Like, decent healthcare.  What a great country we are.

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Re: Should the president send the troops to Iraq!
« Reply #11 on: December 05, 2009, 01:52:11 pm »
I think we are already broke and don't have the funds to support 30k additional troops over there.  Protect the homeland before you attempt to control the world!

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Re: Should the president send the troops to Iraq!
« Reply #12 on: December 05, 2009, 02:53:49 pm »
Personally, I think the US needs to worry about the US.  If other countries can't figure themselves out or stop the internal fighting, leave them to it.  Although it is heartbreaking to see these other countries with such problems, it is more heartbreaking for me to see Americans and their families displaced and out of work.  I think we should fix America before sticking our noses in other contries affairs.  If this country wasn't such a snob in thinking they could fix everyone else's problems, maybe they wouldn't hate us so much.

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Re: Should the president send the troops to Iraq!
« Reply #13 on: December 05, 2009, 07:07:45 pm »
Personally, I think the US needs to worry about the US.  If other countries can't figure themselves out or stop the internal fighting, leave them to it.  Although it is heartbreaking to see these other countries with such problems, it is more heartbreaking for me to see Americans and their families displaced and out of work.  I think we should fix America before sticking our noses in other contries affairs.  If this country wasn't such a snob in thinking they could fix everyone else's problems, maybe they wouldn't hate us so much.

It's more heartbreaking to you to see people at an unemployment office than it is to see an illiterate ten year old go through the day thinking he could get killed by a car bomb today?  I refuse to believe you hold that position.  Please tell me you don't.

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Re: Should the president send the troops to Iraq!
« Reply #14 on: December 06, 2009, 12:46:24 am »
The whole idea that we can stop terrorists from blowing people up with carbombs, by carpetbombing the area killing the very same civilians, is pretty illogical :) There are very bad things going on in this country which should be tackled first. Some people believe that we should spend all our money on war and bringing peace to other countries, which BTW never really works... it usually ends up killing far more civilians than would have died under the normal reign of power, and much more terror is in everyone's lives. Not to mention we lose our own soldiers... then a new dictator comes about and it begins again. Its a great profit for the companies of course who are involved in rebuilding, the blowing up, then rebuilding, then blowing up etc. Nice steady income! Not much checks and balances or audits in a war zone either, so very handy for the criminal minded businessman.  

Some people think we should spend more on education instead of war, and building healthy relationships through trade agreements etc. Its basically a mentality of "we should save everyone else on earth, forget about our kids and people locally, they are not under threat of a grenade, so screw them and let them be homeless, its not as much to worry about" versus "we are in America, and we should be better than these other countries, lets focus on education and protecting our own country.".   Everyone knows that terrorism has gotten worse, and we are no safer today than before the IRAQ war, in fact we have even more enemies and larger breeding grounds for terrorists now! Each group of civilians killed is yet another family of potential terrorists seeking revenge.. This is all obvious I would suspect, but some still think "thousands of soldiers lives,and hundreds of thousands of civilians lives are worth taking out a single evil dictator". In fact they could have taken Saddam out without this war as well.. so what was it really about? regime change... of course. Who runs IRAQ now?  

Saddam hated terrorists and fought alqueda himself, he was non secular. Horrible dictator, but the living conditions were much better while he was in power than they are now. IRAQ was a much better country than China for example which has the most deaths by the hands of their own government than any other country. Yet we deal heavily with China and have the majority of our product come from there... The terrorists were not from IRAQ or had any affiliation with IRAQ, they were mostly from Saudi Arabia, and they all lived in the US etc for years... The there is the excuse of WMD.. not only was now found (which means there was at LEAST not a HUGE amount) but countries like North Korea taunt us on a regular basis, they HAVE nukes, and we know it... and they test missiles while threatening us... but nothing there? ... so what is the war in IRAQ and Afghanistan over again? not WMD... not Terrorists who the government admits mostly are in sleeper cells and all over the world in different countries... ? I would say the same as usual... big war is big business. And your children will die for this corporation called the US military which no longer defends the constitution, they work to expand the empire and as cannon fodder for some rich politicians who have the highest conflicts of interest possible deciding war strategy and how they will send the money to companies that they hold stock in or sit as boards of directors on.. .Halliberton, Xe etc.
« Last Edit: December 06, 2009, 12:48:09 am by eSineM »

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