18% gratuity

[sigmapi1501]

I'm half jew. So yes, I leave a tip on top of that but it kills me inside.

[torch71]

It depends on the service.

[hlavine]

Personally, I get upset when a tip is included on my bill and don't leave a penny more, even if I had intended to.  I am a fairly good tipper.  If I get good service, you get a good tip -- I have left up to 25% before.  BUT, for a restaurant to tell me I have to tip makes me    and leaves a sour taste in my mouth.  Part of it stems from a very bad night at a restuannt with sub par food, awful service and a huge bill, with of course, the tip added.  I had planned on leaving 10% because that was all I felt she deserved, if even that.  To be forced to pay more really got my hide.       Tipping is supposed to be a "gratitude" and earned.  Not a given just "because" 

[sigmapi1501]

Personally, I get upset when a tip is included on my bill and don't leave a penny more, even if I had intended to.  I am a fairly good tipper.  If I get good service, you get a good tip -- I have left up to 25% before.  BUT, for a restaurant to tell me I have to tip makes me    and leaves a sour taste in my mouth.  Part of it stems from a very bad night at a restuannt with sub par food, awful service and a huge bill, with of course, the tip added.  I had planned on leaving 10% because that was all I felt she deserved, if even that.  To be forced to pay more really got my hide.       Tipping is supposed to be a "gratitude" and earned.  Not a given just "because" 

I hope you don't go out to dinner often.  You can always ask to have the gratuity removed from your bill if you are unhappy.

[Joeyramone]

When the 18% is built in the bill, there is no expectation to tip beyond that by the staff.  However, if the service is ecxeptional, you can tip more.  I always thought that this wasn;t a good policy as when I go to dinner alone or in a group, the standard tip is 20%.

[hlavine]

Personally, I get upset when a tip is included on my bill and don't leave a penny more, even if I had intended to.  I am a fairly good tipper.  If I get good service, you get a good tip -- I have left up to 25% before.  BUT, for a restaurant to tell me I have to tip makes me    and leaves a sour taste in my mouth.  Part of it stems from a very bad night at a restuannt with sub par food, awful service and a huge bill, with of course, the tip added.  I had planned on leaving 10% because that was all I felt she deserved, if even that.  To be forced to pay more really got my hide.       Tipping is supposed to be a "gratitude" and earned.  Not a given just "because" 

I hope you don't go out to dinner often.  You can always ask to have the gratuity removed from your bill if you are unhappy.

Why would you hope I don't eat out often?  I must have missed something.  I am actually in the food industry so I understand they have to make a living, but in my opinion, they have to "earn" their tip by doing their job.  And no, not all restaurants will remove the gratuity, for some its a "policy" 

[ULuvCeCe]

Personally, I get upset when a tip is included on my bill and don't leave a penny more, even if I had intended to.  I am a fairly good tipper.  If I get good service, you get a good tip -- I have left up to 25% before.  BUT, for a restaurant to tell me I have to tip makes me     and leaves a sour taste in my mouth.  Part of it stems from a very bad night at a restuannt with sub par food, awful service and a huge bill, with of course, the tip added.  I had planned on leaving 10% because that was all I felt she deserved, if even that.  To be forced to pay more really got my hide.      Tipping is supposed to be a "gratitude" and earned.  Not a given just "because"  

I hope you don't go out to dinner often.  You can always ask to have the gratuity removed from your bill if you are unhappy.

And no, not all restaurants will remove the gratuity, for some its a "policy"  

I was under the impression that it was "policy" too as I've been told it is a convenience fee for your party taking up a larger area of their restaurant because they could've broken that down into say 4 different tables and had gotten their money that way

Reviewing other parts of the thread, I'm glad that I am not the only one that thinks that added fee is enough but yes I agree depending on the service I may want to leave more.

[Phx0808]

Tipping is no longer what is is SUPPOSED to be which is gratitude for excellent service. It has become a way for greedy selfish companies to get away with not properly paying their employees! It needs to be put to a stop!

I would agree 1000%. I am not responsible to supplement a employee's wage at any company. If you want me as a customer then charge prices I can live with, but don't expect me to pay your employee's wages for something that they are expected to do for me anyway, and  on top of what I pay for food.

I have found a fast-food restaurant the best place to eat nowadays, just so I don't have to deal with tipping anyone.
If you don't like what your employer is paying, find a different job, but don't expect me to pay your wages.

[Joeyramone]

Tipping is no longer what is is SUPPOSED to be which is gratitude for excellent service. It has become a way for greedy selfish companies to get away with not properly paying their employees! It needs to be put to a stop!

I would agree 1000%. I am not responsible to supplement a employee's wage at any company. If you want me as a customer then charge prices I can live with, but don't expect me to pay your employee's wages for something that they are expected to do for me anyway, and  on top of what I pay for food.

I have found a fast-food restaurant the best place to eat nowadays, just so I don't have to deal with tipping anyone.
If you don't like what your employer is paying, find a different job, but don't expect me to pay your wages.

I am assuming you both want to have service provided to you that rivals the Department of Motor Vehicles then?  Tipping is a great tool for all 3 parties... the consumer, the owner, and the employee.  You have the implied threat of a low tip if your service is poor and the employee works harder to make you happy, thus better service.  The owner of the company gets more out of his employees and also gets happy customers.  If you want to eliminate tips, then be prepared to pay higher prices for your food at restaraunts ato make up for the higher taxes and wages the employer will be forced to pay.

[Phx0808]

Tipping is no longer what is is SUPPOSED to be which is gratitude for excellent service. It has become a way for greedy selfish companies to get away with not properly paying their employees! It needs to be put to a stop!

I would agree 1000%. I am not responsible to supplement a employee's wage at any company. If you want me as a customer then charge prices I can live with, but don't expect me to pay your employee's wages for something that they are expected to do for me anyway, and  on top of what I pay for food.

I have found a fast-food restaurant the best place to eat nowadays, just so I don't have to deal with tipping anyone.
If you don't like what your employer is paying, find a different job, but don't expect me to pay your wages.

I am assuming you both want to have service provided to you that rivals the Department of Motor Vehicles then?  Tipping is a great tool for all 3 parties... the consumer, the owner, and the employee.  You have the implied threat of a low tip if your service is poor and the employee works harder to make you happy, thus better service.  The owner of the company gets more out of his employees and also gets happy customers.  If you want to eliminate tips, then be prepared to pay higher prices for your food at restaraunts ato make up for the higher taxes and wages the employer will be forced to pay.

The amount of the tip they think I will give dictates how good the service is I receive? So I have to give them a 18% or better to get average service? ...That is crazy....

Employers and Employees now pay tax on tips. Nothing new there.

Tipping is good for the restaurants' employees and the owner. It is NOT good for the customer.

[jennychen]

i think you dont have to tip anymore because you have already paid extra, plus, that money would go to the waiters/ waitresses anyway,

[floorlady]

Tipping is no longer what is is SUPPOSED to be which is gratitude for excellent service. It has become a way for greedy selfish companies to get away with not properly paying their employees! It needs to be put to a stop!

I would agree 1000%. I am not responsible to supplement a employee's wage at any company. If you want me as a customer then charge prices I can live with, but don't expect me to pay your employee's wages for something that they are expected to do for me anyway, and  on top of what I pay for food.

I have found a fast-food restaurant the best place to eat nowadays, just so I don't have to deal with tipping anyone.
If you don't like what your employer is paying, find a different job, but don't expect me to pay your wages.

I am assuming you both want to have service provided to you that rivals the Department of Motor Vehicles then?  Tipping is a great tool for all 3 parties... the consumer, the owner, and the employee.  You have the implied threat of a low tip if your service is poor and the employee works harder to make you happy, thus better service.  The owner of the company gets more out of his employees and also gets happy customers.  If you want to eliminate tips, then be prepared to pay higher prices for your food at restaraunts ato make up for the higher taxes and wages the employer will be forced to pay.

The amount of the tip they think I will give dictates how good the service is I receive? So I have to give them a 18% or better to get average service? ...That is crazy....

Employers and Employees now pay tax on tips. Nothing new there.

Tipping is good for the restaurants' employees and the owner. It is NOT good for the customer.

I'm glad that you eat at fast food restaurants. You are doing everyone who waits tables a favor. Anyone who thinks they do not have to tip when they go out to eat at a full service restaurant should definitely not expect good service when they come back to the same establishment. You think we don't remember who you are? O we do.. I also agree that you will be paying higher food prices if you eliminate tipping. IF you get crappy service you don't have to tip, but I feel that the tip should be expected when you go out for dinner if you receive good service.