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Abortion is a very safe procedure. Here are the facts about your options, the different kinds of abortion, and what to expect.
What are the different kinds of abortion?
Medication abortion, also known as the “abortion pill,” is when you take medicines that you get from a trained doctor or nurse to end an early pregnancy. In-clinic abortion is done in a health center by a trained doctor or nurse. Both kinds of abortion are safe and effective.
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Abortion is NEVER a SAFE procedure.
It destroys an innocent life, stops a beating heart and destroys, mangles a little human who will feel the pain.
If it was a dog's pups or cat's kits, there would be an outrage if they were pulled out, and their bodies shattered in the process.
Why is there not more compassion on an innocent baby who could be given to a loving couple who wish they could have kids.
Abortion is a nightmare for the victim, not healthy or safe.
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I agree with you completely. Although nobody is gun-ho about having abortions, it is a procedure that needs to be available so women don't hurt themselves attaining an abortion.
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Abortion is NEVER a SAFE procedure.
It destroys an innocent life, stops a beating heart and destroys, mangles a little human who will feel the pain.
If it was a dog's pups or cat's kits, there would be an outrage if they were pulled out, and their bodies shattered in the process.
Why is there not more compassion on an innocent baby who could be given to a loving couple who wish they could have kids.
Abortion is a nightmare for the victim, not healthy or safe.
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Bravo!!!
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We were driving behind this car today and saw bumper stickers about abortions, it made me think about how much people aren't sensitive to an unborn child. They aren't asked to be aborted, people take it upon themselves to kill an unborn fetus. give that child to someone who will love it. Abortions should be outlawed.
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Let your kingdom come on earth as it is in heaven.
Then you can be assured abortions will cease to exist!
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Oh, I'm pregnant, I think I'll have an abortion, this makes my 3rd! How many people have said that or something like that? How can you decide that a baby's life must end? What if your mother thought the same thing? Aren't you glad to be alive, don't you think your unborn child wants the same thing? You might be killing someone who could find the cure to cancer, MS, any disease. They might invent something great, they might be a doctor, they might have a chance at life, but you chose to end it. How can you sleep at night?
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I think we all know where babies come from. Ideally, we wouldn't be having sex if we weren't physically, financially or emotionally equipped to raise babies. Is it reasonable to think that people have that kind of self control?
Are people breeding like animals?
Birth control was invented for a reason but that doesn't mean it's always effective.
Maybe certain people should be spayed or neutered. What do you think about that?
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I don't believe in abortion. I had 3 miscarriages and would have given my life to have had one more child. Darn near did. But God had a different plan for me and I still had 2 wonderful boys to raise. I have never been able to wrap my mind around why they do it. It is murder too me. I have known several couples who would have loved to be able to adopt a child. If you don't want a child keep your legs together and tell the man no.
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The title and post makes no sense.
I'm for abortion 100%. If you don't like it don't have one but don't tell other people what they should do with their lives and bodies.
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The title and post makes no sense.
I'm for abortion 100%. If you don't like it don't have one but don't tell other people what they should do with their lives and bodies.
I agree. But some states and politicians are trying to make it more difficult, one state even wants you to get permission from the man involved (even with rape) for an abortion.
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I personally would never get an abortion BUT I would never ever judge another for doing what they feel is right in their life. I wish more people could comprehend the fact that just because some wouldn't do it doesn't mean all rights need to be stripped away from others within the rights of termination.
I also need to know how anyone can take away a woman's human rights within reason because you don't agree with it. Sexual offenders (raping woman & girls, men & all human life no matter the age) is looked past since short sometimes just months prison sentence is served. I am not in any way saying abortion is less then rape. I am not going to voice my opinion on abortion as so many people have & will go through much more then I will ever understand no matter how I feel personally for my own self. I just wish more people would be willing to fight for tougher laws on child rapists.
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The title and post makes no sense.
I'm for abortion 100%. If you don't like it don't have one but don't tell other people what they should do with their lives and bodies.
I agree. But some states and politicians are trying to make it more difficult, one state even wants you to get permission from the man involved (even with rape) for an abortion.
I also am in agreement with you. If you are against abortion then don't have one but no one is going to tell me what to do with my body.
My answer for those against abortion, everyone needs to sign a list. Once a child is born to a person who would have had an abortion, you have to adopt that child and take on all the responsibilities that go along with raising the child. No matter what the ethnicity, illness, or any other issues the baby may have. No skipping the line. You have to take the child.
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Just another reason whats wrong with this world.We all will have to answer to a higher authority.Freewill gives us the power to disagree....but if you disagreed with your landlord on his rules you would be out on your butt!!
Get the message?Gods rulz are for our benefit...but sadly many dont accept them.
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I do not believe in abortions. It is a legal way to kill a child. If you do not want to have a baby, then use protection. >:(
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I beliee abortion is okay in cases of incest, rape, and if it's detrimental to the woman's life. I do NOT believe in abortion as a form of birth control like some women do. If women want to have sex. they need to have a 100% method to prevent pregnancy (or just don't have sex); especially if they aren't married and/or have sex with a bunch of men over time. Baby mills need to be stopped somehow.
I also don't believe in partial birth abortion or live birth abortion where a doctor will stab the baby in the back of the head where it connects to the neck (forget what the area is called). That is murder! Selling body parts like Planned Parenthood did (or still does) is also disgusting. The last time i checked, PP did 320,000 abortions in 2015. One out of 6 pregnancies are adopted. In 2015, 887 abortions were performed every day! Disgusting!
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I don't like abortion. I wish they did not happen. But not everyone is of the same opinion. I don't believe it should be in the hands of the Federal government to dictate this area of people's lives. But I do believe in forgiveness.
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I do not believe in abortion unless it is for very extreme circumstances. I feel that people use abortion like it is birth control
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Abortions should be available to anyone who makes a choice to get one, i think.
Also, I personally wouldn't care if a dog or a cat got an abortion. We have an overpopulation problem and I don't see anything wrong with it.
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I don't believe there is ever a safe form of abortion. There are always too many risks.
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>:( I do not believe in abortion. Just my personal opinion. It is the same as murder. Don't have sex if you are going to take the chance on wanting an abortion versus the child.
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A woman/couple is/are pregnant and they do not want to have a baby... they can legally terminate the pregnancy and the 'fetus' is not considered to be a living person being killed.
A woman/couple is/are pregnant and they are overjoyed to have a baby... tragically, someone comes along and kills the pregnant woman and is charged with TWO counts of murder...
What is the difference between the baby in these two scenarios? How can one be murder and the other be a 'choice'?
ALL life is a precious gift from God (whether it is joyfully welcomed, or an unplanned financial burden).
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Isn't this supposed to be in the Debate and Discuss board?
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terrible so disaster.... :moneymouth:
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Isn't this supposed to be in the Debate and Discuss board?
By rights, it probably should be on that board, but it is where it is until someone with site authority moves or locks it.
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I don't think I would or could, but to each their own. It is not for me to judge because being rape by someone and get pregnant.... something to think about
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I used to be pro-choice, never put much though in to it really until recently when I read about that case in Texas where the state was prosecuting an abortion doctor & what he did to those babies was atrocious.
Then the selling of parts & pictures of dismembered almost full term fetuses... I've now become pro-life.
Wish people would practice better birth control, thankfully it is now available in CA over-the-counter.
I'm not for dictating what people do or don't, & definitely not for people performing backdoor abortions with coat hangers; but something needs to change, esp when the fetuses are at the point they feel pain. Ugh.
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Once more, the mother is not the only issue. Yeah, she will hopefully come through it safely.
But you are tearing a child apart! Very early into the pregnancy, they feel the pain.
Have you ever looked at pics of aborted babies??
If they are allowed to kill the baby, why do we have laws protecting that child when the mom gets out of the hospital? When it is official the baby has been born, it is murder to kill it. While it is still in the womb it is ok to kill it.
If we have the right to tell bad guys don't kill, and put them in prison, why is it "no one's business" to protest a tortuous death of an innocent.
I know there are many who disagree. However, I have heard many women look back and say they did not realize what they had actually done till later, and sooo regret it.
Be responsible with sex. If you get pregnant, offer the baby to someone who will love it. Then your conscience can be clear of that.
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Abortion is a very safe procedure. Here are the facts about your options, the different kinds of abortion, and what to expect.
What are the different kinds of abortion?
Medication abortion, also known as the “abortion pill,” is when you take medicines that you get from a trained doctor or nurse to end an early pregnancy. In-clinic abortion is done in a health center by a trained doctor or nurse. Both kinds of abortion are safe and effective.
Why do you seem so intent on proclaiming the safety of abortions? There's one person the abortion isn't safe for in any case-The Baby!
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It is absolutely absurd that all of you "Pro-Life-ers" are exclaiming the "fault" that women contemplating abortion aren't thinking of what the child would want. Listen, that child has absolutely no chance of remembering what happens while in the womb or even most events up to the age of 3. So, essentially, your claims are void. You also are trying to speak on behalf of that unborn child's human rights but what of the mother?? You want to take her rights away and bestow them on an innocent child where the outcomes of living situations and ways of life will be less than optimal.
You can argue this until you're blue in the face. You have a right to believe and think the way you do and want. However, understand that YOU have absolutely no dang right to dictate what a woman can and cannot do with HER body. That's insane!
Say that you take away all contraceptives that also protect against STDs and STIs. Say that you take away all sex education and tell kids, "Hey, don't have sex before marriage or you COULD get pregnant or be infected with something that may or may not be life threatening." The only thing that does is provide an uneducated society about safe sex, underground abortions in potentially unsafe environments, and way too many children to surpass the demand for adequate families looking to adopt.
You don't have to agree with abortion. But it's none of your business to try to tell a woman what she can't do. ::)
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It is absolutely absurd that all of you "Pro-Life-ers" are exclaiming the "fault" that women contemplating abortion aren't thinking of what the child would want. Listen, that child has absolutely no chance of remembering what happens while in the womb or even most events up to the age of 3. So, essentially, your claims are void. You also are trying to speak on behalf of that unborn child's human rights but what of the mother?? You want to take her rights away and bestow them on an innocent child where the outcomes of living situations and ways of life will be less than optimal.
You can argue this until you're blue in the face. You have a right to believe and think the way you do and want. However, understand that YOU have absolutely no dang right to dictate what a woman can and cannot do with HER body. That's insane!
Say that you take away all contraceptives that also protect against STDs and STIs. Say that you take away all sex education and tell kids, "Hey, don't have sex before marriage or you COULD get pregnant or be infected with something that may or may not be life threatening." The only thing that does is provide an uneducated society about safe sex, underground abortions in potentially unsafe environments, and way too many children to surpass the demand for adequate families looking to adopt.
You don't have to agree with abortion. But it's none of your business to try to tell a woman what she can't do. ::)
So i guess you would defend someone that just wants to go shoot the place up too!!
You are just 1 of many that doesnt want to be told whats right or wrong!!I am sure you dont give a d$m about the bible,but i believe our creator has given us HIS word for our benefit and heres a little reminder of it....
How should the Source of human life affect our view of this matter?
Acts 17:28: “By him [God] we have life and move and exist.”
Ps. 36:9: “With you [Jehovah God] is the source of life.”
Rom. 14:12: “Each of us will render an account for himself to God.”
Does Jehovah view the life of a child as precious even during the very early stages of development after conception?
Ps. 139:13-16: “You [Jehovah] kept me screened off in the belly of my mother. . . . Your eyes saw even the embryo of me, and in your book all its parts were down in writing.”
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It is absolutely absurd that all of you "Pro-Life-ers" are exclaiming the "fault" that women contemplating abortion aren't thinking of what the child would want. Listen, that child has absolutely no chance of remembering what happens while in the womb or even most events up to the age of 3. So, essentially, your claims are void. You also are trying to speak on behalf of that unborn child's human rights but what of the mother?? You want to take her rights away and bestow them on an innocent child where the outcomes of living situations and ways of life will be less than optimal.
You can argue this until you're blue in the face. You have a right to believe and think the way you do and want. However, understand that YOU have absolutely no dang right to dictate what a woman can and cannot do with HER body. That's insane!
Say that you take away all contraceptives that also protect against STDs and STIs. Say that you take away all sex education and tell kids, "Hey, don't have sex before marriage or you COULD get pregnant or be infected with something that may or may not be life threatening." The only thing that does is provide an uneducated society about safe sex, underground abortions in potentially unsafe environments, and way too many children to surpass the demand for adequate families looking to adopt.
You don't have to agree with abortion. But it's none of your business to try to tell a woman what she can't do. ::)
We tell women (and quite frankly men) what they can & can't do with their bodies all the time. There are laws in the majority of states forbidding illegal drugs, prostitution and so on. To suggest a woman murdering her child in the womb is somehow a unalienable right, is probably the most callus thing known to mankind. If we can't forbid murder of the unborn, what does that say about us? Aren't we all called upon to protect the innocent & helpless? Doesn't all Americans deserve the rights of LIFE, liberty & the pursuit of happiness?
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i agree any surgery especially bortion is risky for mother and the unborn child.
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It is absolutely absurd that all of you "Pro-Life-ers" are exclaiming the "fault" that women contemplating abortion aren't thinking of what the child would want. Listen, that child has absolutely no chance of remembering what happens while in the womb or even most events up to the age of 3. So, essentially, your claims are void. You also are trying to speak on behalf of that unborn child's human rights but what of the mother?? You want to take her rights away and bestow them on an innocent child where the outcomes of living situations and ways of life will be less than optimal.
You can argue this until you're blue in the face. You have a right to believe and think the way you do and want. However, understand that YOU have absolutely no dang right to dictate what a woman can and cannot do with HER body. That's insane!
Say that you take away all contraceptives that also protect against STDs and STIs. Say that you take away all sex education and tell kids, "Hey, don't have sex before marriage or you COULD get pregnant or be infected with something that may or may not be life threatening." The only thing that does is provide an uneducated society about safe sex, underground abortions in potentially unsafe environments, and way too many children to surpass the demand for adequate families looking to adopt.
You don't have to agree with abortion. But it's none of your business to try to tell a woman what she can't do. ::)
We tell women (and quite frankly men) what they can & can't do with their bodies all the time. There are laws in the majority of states forbidding illegal drugs, prostitution and so on. To suggest a woman murdering her child in the womb is somehow a unalienable right, is probably the most callus thing known to mankind. If we can't forbid murder of the unborn, what does that say about us? Aren't we all called upon to protect the innocent & helpless? Doesn't all Americans deserve the rights of LIFE, liberty & the pursuit of happiness?
Nice to know in 1 sense we agree.....but swallow your nationalism cos its NOT only American abortions that go on.
God isnt partial!
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SNICOLE:
Some women use abortion as a means of birth control which is sheer laziness. I think it is absurd to get 5 or 6 abortions because you are too lazy to use contraceptives. It's a shame that when you want to get an abortion, you are all of a sudden screaming about your rights to your own body. It's a shame that you (collective you) did not take responsibility for your body by using contraception.
When standing up for life, NO REASON is void so I think you know where you can shove your opinion. However, it does not matter if the child remembers it or not; it is a life. It has the genes of both parents. Everything that is needed to make a person is there; therefore it is a person and it is alive.
I also find that most women who argue about their rights are selfish in every other aspect of their lives. It is all about them, their rights, their bodies, etc.
If that is so, PAY FOR IT YOURSELF. Although, I would worry that those women would self-abort which could be horrific for the child.
Getting one abortion because the condom broke is bad enough, two is questionable, three or more shows an apathy for life that should be criminal. Get your darn tubes tied.
So, take your opinions, and stick them where the good lord split you.
As for spaying/neutering HECK yes! If women have so little self-control that they keep getting abortions over and over, perhaps, they SHOULD be sterilized.
Those same women complain later in life about the fact that they're childless. Like Stevie Nicks. The woman admitted to having EIGHT abortions. Now, she goes on talk shows trying to garner sympathy and blaming her occupation for the fact that she is now childless. No, Stevie, you're childless because you aborted eight lives.
This will be my only comment because people like SNICOLE make me want to smack them senseless!
Also, whose bright idea was it to start this thread? This is one of those topics where there is no middle ground, and it is going to get everyone riled up before taking surveys.
SERIOUSLY SNicole, sterilize yourself. PLEASE . . . God, I am so angry.
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Instead of focusing on banning abortion, we should focus on why women are choosing to have abortions. We need to focus on providing better education - abstinence-only-until-marriage doesn't work. We need to provide better health care coverage so that women are healthy enough to carry & give birth to the baby - and that the baby can be taken cared of no matter what health issue he/she is born with. We need better maternity leave regulations so women can chose to have the child without fear of losing their job (and subsequently losing their health insurance). People are not choosing to have abortion for fun, they turn to abortion because they're in a situation where abortion is the only option to keep their life from going downhill.
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In this world there is little regard for human life.Even if you gave those that supported it the death penalty it wouldnt stop it from happening.It might lessen it but again it wouldnt stop it.
The beginning of knowledge is the fear of Jehovah
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Abortion is terrible....
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I am still waiting for someone to answer my query above. Why is it legal to kill the living and breathing baby still in the womb if the mother doesn't want it, but it is a double murder if someone else kills a pregnant woman carrying a living and breathing baby in her womb? Can anyone on either side of this argument explain how that makes any logical or moral sense?
...didn't think so. :'(
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I am still waiting for someone to answer my query above. Why is it legal to kill the living and breathing baby still in the womb if the mother doesn't want it, but it is a double murder if someone else kills a pregnant woman carrying a living and breathing baby in her womb? Can anyone on either side of this argument explain how that makes any logical or moral sense
...didn't think so. :'(
New International Version
LORD, I know that people's lives are not their own; it is not for them to direct their steps.
Man is not gonna get it right all the time and even if he tries to do the right thing he still will get it wrong.
Jer 10:23
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I don't believe in abortion
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It all boils down to we've made Abortion an "easy out" for careless people who rather commit infanticide rather than be inconvenienced by the choices they've made.
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People have abortions for different reasons. Nobody has the right to tell someone what to do unless they have been in that persons shoes. I rather people have abortions than bring the kids into the world and mistreat them because they never wanted to have them. It is hard to carry a child that was the product of rape. All children do not get adopted and children get abused in foster care.
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Don't roll your eyes at me. You know it's true. We've made abortion an easy out. Life is cheapened, all because some people can' t exorcise a modicum of discipline.
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Bravo again JJ!!
The selfishness of mankind is quite prevalent in abortion.Extremely sad that there are not just a few cases.And yet this doesnt convince the majority of the population this and many other issues contribute to this world being in a bit of a crisis now!
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You can't ever say that taking a life is safe. If you believe in God at all, you can not believe its ok.
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Abortion is NEVER a SAFE procedure.
It destroys an innocent life, stops a beating heart and destroys, mangles a little human who will feel the pain.
If it was a dog's pups or cat's kits, there would be an outrage if they were pulled out, and their bodies shattered in the process.
Why is there not more compassion on an innocent baby who could be given to a loving couple who wish they could have kids.
Abortion is a nightmare for the victim, not healthy or safe.
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I think this reaction is based on the emotions we feel for babies. The problem with that is, we don't start off as bouncing baby boys and girls right? We develop over time. If it is early enough, the fetus will not feel pain. Actually they do not start to sense pain until 20 weeks! It is not this gory scene you describe in most cases.
Adoption may be an option but should not be forced. Pregnancy is long, stressful, uncomfortable and painful. You don't even feel like yourself mentally/emotionally. It can change your body and self esteem. Some of your bodily functions aren't the same. You fart more after. Better do your kegals or you might pee yourself a little when you laugh.
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Abortion is NEVER a SAFE procedure.
It destroys an innocent life, stops a beating heart and destroys, mangles a little human who will feel the pain.
If it was a dog's pups or cat's kits, there would be an outrage if they were pulled out, and their bodies shattered in the process.
Why is there not more compassion on an innocent baby who could be given to a loving couple who wish they could have kids.
Abortion is a nightmare for the victim, not healthy or safe.
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I think this reaction is based on the emotions we feel for babies. The problem with that is, we don't start off as bouncing baby boys and girls right? We develop over time. If it is early enough, the fetus will not feel pain. Actually they do not start to sense pain until 20 weeks! It is not this gory scene you describe in most cases.
Adoption may be an option but should not be forced. Pregnancy is long, stressful, uncomfortable and painful. You don't even feel like yourself mentally/emotionally. It can change your body and self esteem. Some of your bodily functions aren't the same. You fart more after. Better do your kegals or you might pee yourself a little when you laugh.
You should be an advoctae for those wanting to commit suicide NOT to hang themselves but go into a garage with car motor running and die peacfully!
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Abortion is a very safe procedure. Here are the facts about your options, the different kinds of abortion, and what to expect.
What are the different kinds of abortion?
Medication abortion, also known as the “abortion pill,” is when you take medicines that you get from a trained doctor or nurse to end an early pregnancy. In-clinic abortion is done in a health center by a trained doctor or nurse. Both kinds of abortion are safe and effective.
Abortion is murder! It is not safe. Nothing that ends a life is safe. I was not aware there was a PILL you could take to kill your baby. Too bad the abortion doesn't kill the one who is irresponsible. If you don't want to get pregnant then get birth control or don't be sleeping around.
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I'm not an "advocate" for abortion. I'm an advocate for a woman making whatever choice she deems practical for her circumstances including carrying the fetus to term, even raising the child if that's what she wants. I'm an advocate for not bringing unwanted babies in the world though. Those are the ones that end up becoming our undesirables in society,the ones that lose their way. Suddenly we're not so pro-life then lol but hey that's another story. I will probably make this the last post in this thread. I cannot have productive conversations with most "pro-life" folks because they go off into fallacy. and highly emotional nonsense.
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I'm not an "advocate" for abortion. I'm an advocate for a woman making whatever choice she deems practical for her circumstances including carrying the fetus to term, even raising the child if that's what she wants. I'm an advocate for not bringing unwanted babies in the world though. Those are the ones that end up becoming our undesirables in society,the ones that lose their way. Suddenly we're not so pro-life then lol but hey that's another story. I will probably make this the last post in this thread. I cannot have productive conversations with most "pro-life" folks because they go off into fallacy. and highly emotional nonsense.
WHAT THE BIBLE SAYS
In God’s eyes, life—especially human life—is sacred. (Genesis 9:6; Psalm 36:9) This principle applies to a baby growing in the womb, a place designed by God to be a safe haven for a developing child. “You kept me screened off in my mother’s womb,” said a Bible writer. He added: “Your eyes even saw me as an embryo; all its parts were written in your book regarding the days when they were formed.”—Psalm 139:13, 16.
Productive chat?LOL!!
The world is full of many that have had natural birth and are a detriment to this world i would think.Anyway i am not out to do a poll on this.Just reminding you <if you care>what Gods views are.
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Personally, I don't agree to ppl getting abortion at every turn! It's the 21st century there's plenty of ways to be responsible & not get pregnant! Ppl who get pregnant irresponsibly should go through the pregnancy term & have the child. They don't have too keep the baby, millions of childless couples would love to adopt this person's mistake. Rape, I know it'll be hard but the woman should still have the baby, it's not the baby's fault & adoption is also a solution! The only time abortion should be done is if there's complications & the mother's life is at stake. I heard there's some cases, where some women would get abortions at every turn but later in life find they can't or have hard time getting pregnant when they're ready to have 1. That's poetic justice for those babies aborted for no other reason in that they were just an mistake, an inconvince to someone's selfish life!
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Abortion is a very safe procedure. Here are the facts about your options, the different kinds of abortion, and what to expect.
What are the different kinds of abortion?
Medication abortion, also known as the “abortion pill,” is when you take medicines that you get from a trained doctor or nurse to end an early pregnancy. In-clinic abortion is done in a health center by a trained doctor or nurse. Both kinds of abortion are safe and effective.
Hello! :D :)
I personally don't believe in abortion which is why I'm careful during "my love making," nonetheless I do believe in the freedom of choice it is the woman's body and she have the right to choose. Pregnancy in itself is a risk the women can lose her life during pregnancy, furthermore the baby changes her body forever some women aren't ready for that. I've heard of plenty of women who were forced into giving birth and the child's life was ruined. Nevertheless I don't believe in using abortion as a form of birth control, far too many babies are being killed. We have many forms of contraceptives and we should all utilize them. I don't believe abortions is the problem the problem is how you use them, may we all make better decisions! :heart: :rose: :heart: :rose: :heart: :rose: :heart: :rose:
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The title and post makes no sense.
I'm for abortion 100%. If you don't like it don't have one but don't tell other people what they should do with their lives and bodies.
I agree. But some states and politicians are trying to make it more difficult, one state even wants you to get permission from the man involved (even with rape) for an abortion.
I agree with both of you. I am not going to debate the subject on this particular site, but I am for choice in many situations, just not all. Mainly, it needs to not be an option after a certain time in the pregnancy.
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never abort.
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Why would you think abortion is safe? It's not. Anytime you body is being intruded upon that is not safe. There are other times when you happen to be under the knife of an inept Doctor.
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You are not going to get the $3 bonus with nonsense posts like the above.
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what does your text have to do with the title? What is "terrible" according to you??? I'm confused
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Im actually getting a kick out of Sharas posts.It seems the members are more worried about them then FC is...LOL!!
Hey guys look at it this way.Shara is helping you get your 30 when you respond....LOL!
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SNICOLE:
Some women use abortion as a means of birth control which is sheer laziness. I think it is absurd to get 5 or 6 abortions because you are too lazy to use contraceptives. It's a shame that when you want to get an abortion, you are all of a sudden screaming about your rights to your own body. It's a shame that you (collective you) did not take responsibility for your body by using contraception.
When standing up for life, NO REASON is void so I think you know where you can shove your opinion. However, it does not matter if the child remembers it or not; it is a life. It has the genes of both parents. Everything that is needed to make a person is there; therefore it is a person and it is alive.
I also find that most women who argue about their rights are selfish in every other aspect of their lives. It is all about them, their rights, their bodies, etc.
If that is so, PAY FOR IT YOURSELF. Although, I would worry that those women would self-abort which could be horrific for the child.
Getting one abortion because the condom broke is bad enough, two is questionable, three or more shows an apathy for life that should be criminal. Get your darn tubes tied.
So, take your opinions, and stick them where the good lord split you.
As for spaying/neutering HECK yes! If women have so little self-control that they keep getting abortions over and over, perhaps, they SHOULD be sterilized.
Those same women complain later in life about the fact that they're childless. Like Stevie Nicks. The woman admitted to having EIGHT abortions. Now, she goes on talk shows trying to garner sympathy and blaming her occupation for the fact that she is now childless. No, Stevie, you're childless because you aborted eight lives.
This will be my only comment because people like SNICOLE make me want to smack them senseless!
Also, whose bright idea was it to start this thread? This is one of those topics where there is no middle ground, and it is going to get everyone riled up before taking surveys.
SERIOUSLY SNicole, sterilize yourself. PLEASE . . . God, I am so angry.
First of all...abortion rates have been seriously declining over the last 20 years, which is outstanding!
However, what holier than thou self righteous bigoted idiotic CRAP! Lmao dang, society is downright in ruins if we keep manufacturing tyrants who think(OR DON'T, RATHER!) like you.
Take your absolutely uneducated and inbred beliefs and thoughts and stick them where the "Good Lord split YOU!"
You absurdly came up with the assumption that I have had an abortion, or multiple. Or, is it the fact that I have a different view than you that causes you to think me inadequate to parent a child? ::) ACTUALLY, I hope you feel like the piece of garbage about the words you spit out when I tell you this: I have lost 3 pregnancies with my husband due to no fault of anyone! Just because I SUPPORT a woman's CHOICE does not give you any dang right to attack me! I seriously hope someone smacks some sense into the horrific bible thumping "Christians" that choose to crap their opinion on everyone and can't for one single moment stand there and listen to the other side. I don't give a flying "you know what" if you want to think of me as a person who has a different view and belief than you. But you DO NOT get to shove this "holy" BS down my throat(went to private Christian school and they offered Worldview classes-in which I learned of how TWISTED the Word of God and it's teachings actually are if you analyze in depth unbiased) nor will you insult me! For the record, almost full term with my current pregnancy so shove That where the good lord split ya :kiss:
I'd much rather have my tax dollars go towards the health care expenses of an abortion(even EIGHT if need-freaking-be!) than a child unable to have the best possible chance experiencing what life has to offer.
God knows that children who grew up surviving the things I have and seeing such a disturbing side to life like I have...we aren't meant for THAT.
I'm a lucky one who broke the cycle and statistics and am somebody and becoming a better person every day. But my foster siblings, group home siblings, broken family, and all the kids with biological parents who set them up to fail...THEY aren't that lucky. I've lost half of them to violence, drugs, alcohol, domestic violence, and one got stabbed to death over money by his mom.
Not all of these started off rotten. Not all of these children were set up to lose. But a lot have because of people like you who shame and attack those who seek out options.
And for you to WANT to force children to endure less than the absolute dang best chance...well, now, that just ain't Christian, sweetheart. ::)
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You can't expect those who can't afford the full cost of a single abortion to be able to afford getting sterilized. Also, doctors and hospitals have requirements as far as age, health, previous children, and other aspects of patient history before someone can even qualify to "opt out" of having kids all together.
And don't start a rant about abstinence ::) That's literally the most idiotic way to have a worse rate of STDs/STIs and unplanned pregnancies on our hands.
HITCH0403:
Lay off the Bible verses directed towards me, please. I respect that you believe what you believe for your own reasons, but I don't appreciate believers of your faith trying to suffocate those who do not choose their salvation through YOUR God. No disrespect intended. If you didn't read above I'll repeat that I took 5 years of Worldview Analytics between high school and college before I gave up my faith in the Christian God, or Jehovah, because of the realizations I found. To be quite frank, your replies were very comical because of your obvious absurdity 8)
DAVISSY:
You are incredibly correct! Everyone wants to hang those that do what they don't agree with but they don't want to address the problem(s). It's like if a house was on fire and the fire department pulled up and hosed off the house next door hoping water would splash and extinguish the house in flames....not gonna work ::)
TNSHPALMER85:
I appreciate you looking at the outcome of what is greatly avoided on a much larger scale because there is indeed legal options for abortion.
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Admin, is it possible to close this thread?
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I don't believe in abortion
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I believe it's up to the individual person but personally I don't believe in it. I believe a child is alive from the moment of conception and unless there's no way to save it or the mother it's murder.
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Snicole,many others read the forum so dont flatter yourself thinking the bible scriptures were meant JUST for you.
I am not sure what those realizations were that made you feel the bible isnt valid...you didnt speak of them.I am sorry for you that you accepted whatever they were.
I am also sorry for your losing 3 pregnancies.
There are many religeons in this world that claim to teach the bible...but DONT!I suggest you read what Jesus said identifying who his true followers are and what are expected of them and also his parable RE the tree that produces fine fruit and the other rotten.
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Who am I to judge. Not until you are in that person shoes should we condemn them for their choices in life.
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Who am I to judge. Not until you are in that person shoes should we condemn them for their choices in life.
Would you judge a loved one drunk as a skunk to drive?Or would you have to get plastered yourself to see why he wants to?
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Snicole,many others read the forum so dont flatter yourself thinking the bible scriptures were meant JUST for you.
I am not sure what those realizations were that made you feel the bible isnt valid...you didnt speak of them.I am sorry for you that you accepted whatever they were.
I am also sorry for your losing 3 pregnancies.
There are many religeons in this world that claim to teach the bible...but DONT!I suggest you read what Jesus said identifying who his true followers are and what are expected of them and also his parable RE the tree that produces fine fruit and the other rotten.
Oh, I wasn't flattering myself, hunny. You straight up quoted my post so obviously you were aiming it towards me in particular which you will find here for reference: http://www.fusioncash.net/forum.php?topic=84056.msg1174049#msg1174049 (http://www.fusioncash.net/forum.php?topic=84056.msg1174049#msg1174049)
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I don't feel the Bible is invalid. I believe on a scientific and strictly historical view, the Bible has consistencies with discoveries found in the modern day and has that going for it. I also believe that it contains awesome stories to get messages across that show how to be a decent human being(for example: "He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her." KJV John 8:7~ oh! Would you look at that, I can do that too! ::)). However, theologically, there are major inconsistencies with cornerstone features that the whole faith lines up for. Again, like I said, this is from my personal faith, countless VBS programs, mission trips, faithful Bible school attendance records, private Presbyterian schooling, and education(philosophical, theology, and geographical all surrounding the Christian faith of all variations and other major worldviews. So based on my logic and what helps me be a better person, Christianity didn't align with me on any level once I opened my heart and mind in acceptance/tolerance.
I also didn't want to start an additional WAR over religion, with going in depth about the journey to my conclusions, in addition to the all outrageous attack on those who support FREE WILL. (Huh...yea, weird concept, right? Google it and educate yourself, maybe? :present:)
Anyway, as far as my school, you can passively try to discredit it based on what you want to believe they taught me crap. And hunny, save your "sorry" for someone who actually needs your spiteful pity. You have a right to believe in what you want, it has absolutely no affect on my life :angel11: :peace: ;) :rainbow:
Good luck darling! :highfive: :party: :silly:
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Admin, is it possible to close this thread?
By the way, I was off FC for a month because I was in disbelief over the absolute indecencies of those that I have called out in this thread over intellectual disagreements. So, sure, it was a late reply. However, for the record, my reply actually was of substance and value unlike the last string of absolute garbage posts such as:
http://www.fusioncash.net/forum.php?topic=84056.msg1177733#msg1177733
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By the way, I was off FC for a month because I was in disbelief over the absolute indecencies of those that I have called out in this thread over intellectual disagreements. So, sure, it was a late reply. However, for the record, my reply actually was of substance and value unlike the last string of absolute garbage posts such as:
http://www.fusioncash.net/forum.php?topic=84056.msg1177733#msg1177733 (http://www.fusioncash.net/forum.php?topic=84056.msg1177733#msg1177733)
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My comment above had nothing to do with the 'lateness' of your reply.
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By the way, I was off FC for a month because I was in disbelief over the absolute indecencies of those that I have called out in this thread over intellectual disagreements. So, sure, it was a late reply. However, for the record, my reply actually was of substance and value unlike the last string of absolute garbage posts such as:
http://www.fusioncash.net/forum.php?topic=84056.msg1177733#msg1177733 (http://www.fusioncash.net/forum.php?topic=84056.msg1177733#msg1177733)
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My comment above had nothing to do with the 'lateness' of your reply.
Fair enough, I was just leaving that for clarification. :kiss:
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Snicole,its people like yourself that help give a good witnesss to the truth even if just 1 person gets something out of it.If Gods people were to go door to door and encountered your spirit they would have obeyed Jesus command and dusted their shoes off,said thanx and bid you good-by.
I see you addressed my saying sorry to your teachings.I guess i used sorry like you use the word luck or god.
You didnt address my pity when i said i was sorry about your pregnancies.I guess if you said thanx my "you're welcome"would have been spiteful too....eh?But you didnt and thats a reflection on you.
BTW,i have been married over 38 yrs.....HUNNY!
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There's always a danger with topics like this that more "heat" than "light" is produced. I'd like to have everyone take a breath for a moment.
Another thing that's important to point out is the condescension in believing that WE can rightly decide if a child is better off NOT being born! What insufferable arrogance! Would you tell a child in abject poverty that they would've been better off not being born? Or perhaps it would be better to actually help those in need where we can. But we play a dangerous game if we start choosing who is worthy to come into this world and who is better off dead.
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JJ i am glad to see you jumped in here.
To say it would have been better off for someone to NOT be born is insane.I mean you can say the same to some that have been naturally and grew up in a horrid family....should we kill them too?
People cant humble themselves and adhere to our creator knows whats best for us.And HE views it as murder.Case closed.
Obediance is life.Those that reject Gods commands will answer to HIM!
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Lol and everyone who disagrees is wrong. Ok, I see how you play. :angel11: :silly:
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Snicole, at the risk of escalating things beyond where they should go - but in the hopes that we could have an intelligent dialog I am going to ask you a question.
I understand from your thread responses that you are very passionate about this issue. I also know that I am not going to make you change your mind on the subject and I can promise you that you will not make me change mine. I can also promise you that I am not going to insult you for your opinions (I cannot make the same promises for others as I know you were attacked early on in this thread) and I hope that I won't be insulted for mine. That said, I also hope you can accept that if I say that I disagree with you and that I believe you are wrong or flawed in your statements or opinions, that it is not an insult or being judgmental - as I somewhat expect that you or others will tell me I am wrong or flawed. As long as that is not accompanied with insults, anger, or hatred - I will not be offended in the least.
So having said all that... I am interested in your thoughts on my earlier observation/scenario which I will repeat here. I may change or add details that weren't present in what I wrote before - but it is the same basic premise.
Two women get pregnant. Both pregnancies are progressing along normally. Both babies are healthy. Both babies have beating hearts and obtain nourishment from their mothers through their umbilical cords. Both mothers have bouts of morning sickness and experience other typical body changes associated with pregnancy.
Mother A decides that she is not financially or emotionally prepared to be a mom. Baby A has no awareness of money or of mom's emotions or of society's prejudices. Baby A simply knows the comfort and safety of mom's uterus - up until the time that the abortion doctor rips baby A apart into pieces. Mother A is now free from the burden of baby A and can go on about her life with no recourse or consequence.
Meanwhile mother B goes about her normal daily well to do life - without any financial or emotional burdens. Baby B has no awareness of money or of mom's emotions or of society's prejudices. Like Baby A, Baby B simply knows the comfort and safety of mom's uterus - up until the time that some crazed man attacks Mother B and strangles her in effort to steal and hock the diamond neckless Mother B wears around her neck. Baby B also dies as a result of that attack.
Both babies are now dead. Both babies' deaths are the direct result of someone else's conscious decisions which directly resulted in those deaths. From the babies' perspectives - everything was fine until it wasn't. Why is Baby B's death considered a murder, but Baby A's not?
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In an earlier post, you seemed to argue that a child in womb would have no chance at remembering what happened in womb or even out of the womb up to three years old. If I understood your point (and please correct me if I misunderstand) you were trying to say that illegitimizes the pro-life argument that the mother isn't thinking of what the child would want and should be free to kill the unborn child because the child wouldn't remember it anyway? I know that I have to be missing your point and I am not trying to belittle or be insulting. But logically extending your argument, doesn't that also advocate killing a burdensome 1, 2, or 3 year old? I am obviously experiencing a disconnect here and I am trying to understand what that disconnect is...
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is very terrible when you destroe One beautiful life in your Hands > and you just finishing is what you are.
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What about all those born that could have been aborted that become abusers,murderers,molesters,rapists ? How about unfit ppl having children that they don't take of and whose lives are destroyed(then maybe they destroy others and or themselves) ? How about overpopulation in this world ?
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I don't believe in abortion and I also think it's killing a child. It took me eight years before having a child. When I was expecting the doctor wanted me to take a test and see if my baby was normal. I declined the test because I knew I would keep him no matter what was wrong with him. God don't make mistakes, people do.
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It's not an "unborn child." It's a few cells. That's why abortion will always be legal. Those against it are basing their beliefs on emotions. Those in favor of it are looking at scientific facts.
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It's not an "unborn child." It's a few cells. That's why abortion will always be legal. Those against it are basing their beliefs on emotions. Those in favor of it are looking at scientific facts.
I guess the creeps that committ "battery"are still a few cells...eh?Too bad they had to over-populate the world.
I find with the real assinine comments the best thing is find humor for them.
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Oh, I'm pregnant, I think I'll have an abortion, this makes my 3rd! How many people have said that or something like that? How can you decide that a baby's life must end? What if your mother thought the same thing? Aren't you glad to be alive, don't you think your unborn child wants the same thing? You might be killing someone who could find the cure to cancer, MS, any disease. They might invent something great, they might be a doctor, they might have a chance at life, but you chose to end it. How can you sleep at night?
Let's get real. Most abortions come from an unwanted pregnancy. Usually from a low income female. Is the baby wanted? yes? ok, keep the kid. Is the baby not wanted? yes? Then you should have done better at birth control but it's your choice to abort it or give it up for adoption. I was unplanned and my mother was a terrible person. Yes, if I had the choice, I would go back and be aborted. I live in a poor apartment complex. Every family with kids is on food stamps, WIC, etc. I do not believe that you should have children if you can't afford them. This is ridiculous. I don't expect the government to buy me a new car, but I should expect the government to provide free housing, cell phone, internet, and food to women who continuously breed?
We are not an endangered species. We're doing fine. I have always been on birth control, but sometimes things go wrong. The pill doesn't work, condoms break, etc. I had an abortion 12 years ago. I still don't regret it. I would not have been able to provide for my child, I am not someone who can handle crying. I am not maternal. I know for a fact I would give the child psychological issues. This was the right decision for me.
Even then it was hard. I didn't realize it until I was three months along, I had to apply for a credit card because I didn't have enough money, and I had to drive three states away just to get it. I had to walk past the pro-lifers screaming hateful things at me, I had to deal with the pain and the loss of hormones. It was not a fun experience but it needed to be done. I do not plan on having children and if I was offered free sterilization I would take it in a heart beat. I think a lot of people need to be sterilized and there should be stricter rules about government assistance. Drug tests, social service visits, etc. I have seen too many people using their food stamps with their kids in the cart and then paying cash for beer and cigarettes. I have a friend who has two kids. She's suing one baby daddy for child support b/c she can't pay the other baby daddy his child support. She drinks and her bf smokes pot in front of the kids. They both smoke cigarettes. She just got a new tattoo. But they're still on food stamps.
It may be a hard decision but if the decision is made, it will help take the strain off the person and the government. You have the right to bear children or not, but I've never understood why people think they have the right to make the government pay for their kids.
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This is a touchy subject. I don't believe in abortion.
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Getting a abortion is up to the individual. But then again it is a must if say you were raped and became pregnant unless you are a masochist and have an unwanted child. There are so many reasons to have an abortion in a safe environment.
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Getting a abortion is up to the individual. But then again it is a must if say you were raped and became pregnant unless you are a masochist and have an unwanted child. There are so many reasons to have an abortion in a safe environment.
This is probably the most adult, non confrontational answer on here. I'd just like to applaud that.
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Getting a abortion is up to the individual. But then again it is a must if say you were raped and became pregnant unless you are a masochist and have an unwanted child. There are so many reasons to have an abortion in a safe environment.
This is probably the most adult, non confrontational answer on here. I'd just like to applaud that.
I would respectfully disagree.
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Getting a abortion is up to the individual. But then again it is a must if say you were raped and became pregnant unless you are a masochist and have an unwanted child. There are so many reasons to have an abortion in a safe environment.
This is probably the most adult, non confrontational answer on here. I'd just like to applaud that.
I would respectfully disagree.
So would i.
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Abortions are always bad
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Last night I saw a very inspirational and eloquent video come across my Facebook feed of a Down syndrome man, Frank Stephens, speaking before congress referencing an attitude of people who would rather abort a fetus determined to have Down Syndrome than have the child. The mother's choice to terminate a life not yet lived without considering that the child might choose to live that life denied.
This is an excerpt from an article about that congressional testimony.
Stephens then addressed the growing practice of fighting disease by killing patients. “Some people say prenatal screens will identify Down syndrome in the womb and those pregnancies will just be terminated,” he said. “It’s hard for me to sit here and say those words,” he said with emotion.
The actor and Down spokesman associated the common practice of killing preborns who are diagnosed as possibly having Down with *bleep* genocide. “People pushing that particular ‘Final Solution’ are saying that people like me should not exist,” Stephens continued. “That view is deeply prejudiced by an outdated idea of life with Down syndrome.”
He went on to explain that most folks with Down syndrome, like himself, lead happy and fulfilled lives. “I have a great life. I have lectured at universities, acted in award-winning film and Emmy-winning TV shows, and spoken to thousands of young people about the value of inclusion in making America great,” he shared.
“I have been to the White House twice, and I didn’t have to jump the fence either time,” he joked.
“Seriously, I don’t feel I should have to justify my existence,” he poignantly concluded.
But, yeah... This guy shouldn't be allowed to have or voice an opinion on the abortion issue and he should stay out of the business of women who might choose to abort. For the thousands of unborn babies with Down syndrome who have the same potential for life as Frank Stephens, the rest of us should know our place and remain silent. What nerve do we have for wanting those babies to live a "less than perfect" life? It's none of our business - we should 'stay out of the mother's personal body choices' and let her make the choice to kill the personwho might become the next happy and eloquent inspiration like Frank Stephens.
I encourage all on both sides of the debate to Google 'Frank Stephens Congress' and watch and truly listen to his heartfelt words. Do they really have zero impact on this very difficult and devisive issue?
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Some people are for abortion and some are against it. Like me I am against it because I seen what really went on when a woman get an abortion. Abortion is not right and it kills a life. Some one who kills a life will be just by our creator. So if you don't want to be pregnant go on birth control
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Abortion is never safe. It can kill a woman. But i can see it she was raped and if the woman is sick then i am all for it. But if the woman has sex with her boyfriend or husband happens to gets pregnant then I'm saying that its not okay just to has an abortion for just because
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sharatop5, you are correct. It's better to have an abortion than have a baby with handicap and make him/her suffer for the rest of her/him life.I think it's selfish to bring a baby into this world not thinking what is going to happen with him after the parents die.
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You know, I am really not sure why I even bother to try to facilitate continuing conversation here, but I am a glutton for my own punishment! Gaby Ro 2004 - I know that I have little chance of you ever even finding and reading this comment, but I am going to say it anyway simply out of pure frustration. Just look at what I said three short posts above yours. Tell Frank Stephens how selfish his mother was!!!
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Ugetpaid those same ignorant souls will say they support Jesus and forget how he even cured Lepers!
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there are 3 things that messes up peoples minds more than anything, 1st is if you've been molested, 2nd if you have killed someone, and 3rd is if you had a abortion. in my life these 3 drive people crazy more than anything else
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Getting a abortion is up to the individual. But then again it is a must if say you were raped and became pregnant unless you are a masochist and have an unwanted child. There are so many reasons to have an abortion in a safe environment.
This is probably the most adult, non confrontational answer on here. I'd just like to applaud that.
I would respectfully disagree.
So would i.
Actually so do I. Lol, my apologies I meant to quote Iguzman 10: "This is a touchy subject. I don't believe in abortion."
That is the quote that I wanted to applaud. I miss quoted the wrong one. the reason I wanted to shout out to this person is b/c they made their opinion clear without stepping on anyone else's opinions. Just thought that was pretty darn cool. Once again, I apologize for the misquote.
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Getting a abortion is up to the individual. But then again it is a must if say you were raped and became pregnant unless you are a masochist and have an unwanted child. There are so many reasons to have an abortion in a safe environment.
This is probably the most adult, non confrontational answer on here. I'd just like to applaud that.
I would respectfully disagree.
So would i.
Actually so do I. Lol, my apologies I meant to quote Iguzman 10: "This is a touchy subject. I don't believe in abortion."
That is the quote that I wanted to applaud. I miss quoted the wrong one. the reason I wanted to shout out to this person is b/c they made their opinion clear without stepping on anyone else's opinions. Just thought that was pretty darn cool. Once again, I apologize for the misquote.
Even God and Jesus had righteous anger!!Go read where they turned Gods temple into a flee market and see what Jesus did!Go read what Jehovah said to Jonah!!Go read what God said to the Jews when they worshipped idols!!You gettin the point??
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I am all for abortion. There are too many unwanted people in this world. Next time you think about banning abortion you just remember all the unwanted people laying outside of the homeless hospital in Baltimore or all the ones living in the woods along 95 that you pretend are not there. Why don't you get your wallet out and help these people if you are so prolife. >:(
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I am all for abortion. There are too many unwanted people in this world. Next time you think about banning abortion you just remember all the unwanted people laying outside of the homeless hospital in Baltimore or all the ones living in the woods along 95 that you pretend are not there. Why don't you get your wallet out and help these people if you are so prolife. >:(
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I agree somewhat with what you said, there are a lot of homeless people in the streets with no hope. Nonetheless, the minute you are born it's up to you where you will end up. I've heard stories of people who were wealthy and just made one bad decision started doing drugs and now is homeless. The real issue is carefully deciding and being responsible for the choices you make. When a woman makes a choice to open her doors she knows the consequences and abortion shouldn't constantly be used as an alternative. I'm all for the right for a woman to choose nonetheless I feel abortion is being misused, just my two sense. :heart: :rose: :heart: :rose: :heart: :rose: :heart: :rose: :heart: :rose: :heart: :rose: :heart: :rose: :heart: :rose: :heart: :rose: :heart: :rose: :heart: :rose: :heart: :rose: :heart: :rose: :heart: :rose:
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I am all for abortion. There are too many unwanted people in this world. Next time you think about banning abortion you just remember all the unwanted people laying outside of the homeless hospital in Baltimore or all the ones living in the woods along 95 that you pretend are not there. Why don't you get your wallet out and help these people if you are so prolife. >:(
Your very hairs are numbered and a sparrow doesnt fall to the ground without God knowing.A human is worth much more then a sparrow.
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As long as it's not some wire hanger abortion (cringe !!!!) women have the right to determine what to do with their own bodies/lives and better to take that responsibility than let a baby be born to suffer.
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... women have the right to determine what to do with their own bodies/lives and better to take that responsibility than let a baby be born to suffer...
Frank Stephens
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This is why Trump is the best President ever. He cut funding to planned parenthood and saved millions of lives. No other president has saved as many lives.
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What in the world? I agree with sherryinutah that some people should be spayed or neutered. There isn't a single thing about abortion that is safe. I can't get over just how delusional people are. Have you ever seen how an abortion is done? Do you have any understanding of what human heartbeat actually is? Pregnancy is a result of choice - you don't want babies - don't have sex.
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“You [Jehovah] kept me screened off in the belly of my mother. . . . Your eyes saw even the embryo of me, and in your book all its parts were down in writing.” -- Psalms 139:13-16
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Abortion is a personal choice but I believe that late term abortions should be illegal. If you wait that long you should give the baby up for adoption.
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Murder for the sake of convenience is pretty much what it amounts to.
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Not to set the argument, but abortion is a medical need and does save lives. My older brother's mother-in-law would've died if given birth to one last child--way before my brother even met his wife so, he never would have know her, I never would have met my grandmother's sister-in-law if she didn't get one and a close friend of mine not only would have died, but the child would have been still-born if allowed to come to full term. I don't care about those that just got pregnant and now want to get rid of it. No. They are the reason everyone doesn't see abortions as a need. They are the reason everyone looks down upon abortions. If every life matters then why only care about an unborn child and not the mother who could die if the child comes to full term? The Catholic Church granted my grandmother's sister-in-law that abortion because when it comes down to it whose life is really more important? The one who could die or the one who is not yet born? And how does one even make that decision? The church did. They chose the life already, and honestly, they always will despite their public stance on abortion. In my friend's case, she has a serious medical condition and didn't plan on getting pregnant and excluding sex, she took every precaution not to. The doctors told her she's going to die if the child is carried full term and the child will be still-born if birthed. What about her? What about those like her? Because some girl got knocked up and doesn't want the kid those that could die if given birth, even if a c-section, are denied a right to live? Think about them. Think about their lives. There are always more than one story to any medical need. They are who I worry about. The rest of you are right if only considering the knocked up girls. Now consider the rest.
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Not to set the argument, but abortion is a medical need and does save lives. My older brother's mother-in-law would've died if given birth to one last child--way before my brother even met his wife so, he never would have know her, I never would have met my grandmother's sister-in-law if she didn't get one and a close friend of mine not only would have died, but the child would have been still-born if allowed to come to full term. I don't care about those that just got pregnant and now want to get rid of it. No. They are the reason everyone doesn't see abortions as a need. They are the reason everyone looks down upon abortions. If every life matters then why only care about an unborn child and not the mother who could die if the child comes to full term? The Catholic Church granted my grandmother's sister-in-law that abortion because when it comes down to it whose life is really more important? The one who could die or the one who is not yet born? And how does one even make that decision? The church did. They chose the life already, and honestly, they always will despite their public stance on abortion. In my friend's case, she has a serious medical condition and didn't plan on getting pregnant and excluding sex, she took every precaution not to. The doctors told her she's going to die if the child is carried full term and the child will be still-born if birthed. What about her? What about those like her? Because some girl got knocked up and doesn't want the kid those that could die if given birth, even if a c-section, are denied a right to live? Think about them. Think about their lives. There are always more than one story to any medical need. They are who I worry about. The rest of you are right if only considering the knocked up girls. Now consider the rest.
I think we all know people who have been told if they dont have a certain operation they will die and have proven the DRs wrong.I have an older brother who was told when he was 45 if he didnt have a back operation he would be a cripple.GUESS what?The Dr screwed up big time and a gig malpractice suit followed and my bro was screwed up the last 34 yrs.Trust me i realize 99% of the world could care less what God thinks about abortion.He has the last say as far as i am concerned and i also think HE will reward those that obey and love him even if they die and resurrect them again as Jesus promised.
In the spring of 31 C.E., Jesus Christ boldly promised: “Just as the Father raises the dead up and makes them alive, so the Son also makes those alive whom he wants to. Do not marvel at this, because the hour is coming in which all those in the memorial tombs will hear his [Jesus’] voice and come out.” (John 5:21, 28, 29) Yes, Jesus Christ promised that millions now dead will live again on this earth and have the prospect of remaining on it forever under peaceful, paradisaic conditions. (Luke 23:43; John 3:16; 17:3; compare Psalm 37:29 and Matthew 5:5.) Since Jesus made the promise, it is safe to assume that he is willing to fulfill it.
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