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what do you think? will he win? if yes, would he do anything different to change the situation we are in now? who can do better?
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i hope he loses.
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I don't think he'll win, and hope he doesn't. We need someone in there who has executive experience (governor, business owner, etc.). Obama's never made a payroll in his life. Think about that.
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I don't think he will win. I agree that someone with financial experience should win. Herman Cain for instance.
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He didn't have my vote the first time & won't be getting it the second time, either.
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:BangHead: :BangHead:You no what to be real about the question in hand no!!! I don't think that Obama will win 4 more years i belive in my heart that he himself did alot of things very wrong and also didnt keep any of the premisess he made to the world, But so what neither did Bush dont be so quick to forget that were in some of this mass because of him (BUSH) he anit no saint so get that up out cha head real quick (ME) as a woman and voter and taxe payer cant stand the ground him (Bush) walks on but you dont here me wishing bad on the man are the way he ran office why because i got a life and i belive i nobody in life is perfect not even him (BUSH) and i also belive that people should watch what they say and wish apon others because it dose come back around its called (Karma) for those of you who dont no no bodies perfect and yes i belive we do need somebody in offices who is for the people not just say they are but really shows it in the way they run office i belive were as a people are being ripped off and im :BangHead: HOT :BangHead: about it i am not voting for anybody at all no body gets my vote in the white house nobody im disappointed in the whole white house system period so for everyone who wonts to down talk OBAMA!!! DOWN TALK BUSH 1ST and also remeber karma is no joke so keep on wishing bad on people inculding Obama and well be hereing your sad story on here to about how yo luck done went bad so i think you better think about it and get ova the fact that his human too WHATEVER GET A LIFE. :BangHead:
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I don't think Obama will win just due to his bad policies, and when healthcare starts kicking in the true cost will be coming out. Not good :o I feel sorry for whoever does win that has to repair all the damage done to the economy, foreign policy, energy..etc.. :'(
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I 100% THAT OBAMA WILL BE IN THE OFFICE FOR ANOTHE FOUR YEARS.
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I hope he will win. I think it is very funny how the U.S is looking for a lot to be done with Obama. While we stood by for 8years and let Bush to put us in Chaos.
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I hope he wins, he needs 4 more years.
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:BangHead: :BangHead:You no what to be real about the question in hand no!!! I don't think that Obama will win 4 more years i belive in my heart that he himself did alot of things very wrong and also didnt keep any of the premisess he made to the world, But so what neither did Bush dont be so quick to forget that were in some of this mass because of him (BUSH) he anit no saint so get that up out cha head real quick (ME) as a woman and voter and taxe payer cant stand the ground him (Bush) walks on but you dont here me wishing bad on the man are the way he ran office why because i got a life and i belive i nobody in life is perfect not even him (BUSH) and i also belive that people should watch what they say and wish apon others because it dose come back around its called (Karma) for those of you who dont no no bodies perfect and yes i belive we do need somebody in offices who is for the people not just say they are but really shows it in the way they run office i belive were as a people are being ripped off and im :BangHead: HOT :BangHead: about it i am not voting for anybody at all no body gets my vote in the white house nobody im disappointed in the whole white house system period so for everyone who wonts to down talk OBAMA!!! DOWN TALK BUSH 1ST and also remeber karma is no joke so keep on wishing bad on people inculding Obama and well be hereing your sad story on here to about how yo luck done went bad so i think you better think about it and get ova the fact that his human too WHATEVER GET A LIFE. :BangHead:
Calm down, so you can at least make coherent sentences. spell check would be nice too. If you don't vote you can't complain either because you did nothing to stop it.
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I sure hope obama doesn't win :,( but he probly will unfortunately in which case the economy will continue to disintegrate..
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I agree with you Obama has done a great deal wrong and whoever gets his places will be were he is now Hated by everyone and i dont think thats fare we as a people or being ripped off were hurting in all this mass and they dont see that i agree with u.
I don't think Obama will win just due to his bad policies, and when healthcare starts kicking in the true cost will be coming out. Not good :o I feel sorry for whoever does win that has to repair all the damage done to the economy, foreign policy, energy..etc.. :'(
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I truly hope not. You can only blame your failures on the previous admin for so long. How in the world could we survive more of this? Sometimes I think I am from another planet when I talk to people who think he has done a good job. There is no need for me to try to discuss it with them because it is almost like we are a different species.
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He surely shouldnt win anything he has done nothing for us but take from us i believe that if he was for us people all the bad things that have happend would of never occured there is a better president out there
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Probably not. A lot of people do not like him. I'm not a fan of him. But I don't dislike him. However, I won't vote for him. I wan't to see what someone else will do in the office, perhaps a Republican.
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I voted for him once, and I will vote for him a second time. I hope he wins a second time. He's the best thing to happen to us this century.
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OMG!!!! PLEASE SHUT UP!!!! YA MAKING ME SICK THINKING YOU NO IT ALL DO YOURSELF A GREAT DEAL AND JUST SHUTUP!!!!!:BangHead: :BangHead:You no what to be real about the question in hand no!!! I don't think that Obama will win 4 more years i belive in my heart that he himself did alot of things very wrong and also didnt keep any of the premisess he made to the world, But so what neither did Bush dont be so quick to forget that were in some of this mass because of him (BUSH) he anit no saint so get that up out cha head real quick (ME) as a woman and voter and taxe payer cant stand the ground him (Bush) walks on but you dont here me wishing bad on the man are the way he ran office why because i got a life and i belive i nobody in life is perfect not even him (BUSH) and i also belive that people should watch what they say and wish apon others because it dose come back around its called (Karma) for those of you who dont no no bodies perfect and yes i belive we do need somebody in offices who is for the people not just say they are but really shows it in the way they run office i belive were as a people are being ripped off and im :BangHead: HOT :BangHead: about it i am not voting for anybody at all no body gets my vote in the white house nobody im disappointed in the whole white house system period so for everyone who wonts to down talk OBAMA!!! DOWN TALK BUSH 1ST and also remeber karma is no joke so keep on wishing bad on people inculding Obama and well be hereing your sad story on here to about how yo luck done went bad so i think you better think about it and get ova the fact that his human too WHATEVER GET A LIFE. :BangHead:
Calm down, so you can at least make coherent sentences. spell check would be nice too. If you don't vote you can't complain either because you did nothing to stop it.
Correct: You're making me sick thinking you know it all, do yourself a great deal and shut up! Like I said don't respond when you are heated. Like i said it's hard to read Ya no?
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you did nothing to stop it.
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[/quote]Correct: You're making me sick thinking you know it all, do yourself a great deal and shut up! Like I said don't respond when you are heated. Like i said it's hard to read Ya no?
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Probably should heed your own advice.
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Hopefully not. I don't think our nation can handle 4 more years. The only thing I can see that he's got is where he authorized the seals to go in and kill osama bin laden. I'm sure that'll be in an ad campaign.
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I voted for him once, and I will vote for him a second time. I hope he wins a second time. He's the best thing to happen to us this century.
Of course you would say that, being on public assistance. You obviously like socialism, but those of us who would rather have freedom than a handout paid for by somebody else, we want someone who's a true American, not a professed socialist and communist. Why doesn't everybody in the country just go on welfare, and then see how long the government can make handouts when no tax money is coming in?
I'm not trying to knock people who work hard to support a family and still can't make ends meet. But most people who are on public assistance should really go out and get a job, even if it is not a fancy high-paying job. And the food stamp situation is really corrupt, because it should only provide basic necessities, not soda, candy, and junk food to make welfare bums get fat.
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I voted for him once, and I will vote for him a second time. I hope he wins a second time. He's the best thing to happen to us this century.
Of course you would say that, being on public assistance. You obviously like socialism, but those of us who would rather have freedom than a handout paid for by somebody else, we want someone who's a true American, not a professed socialist and communist. Why doesn't everybody in the country just go on welfare, and then see how long the government can make handouts when no tax money is coming in?
I'm not trying to knock people who work hard to support a family and still can't make ends meet. But most people who are on public assistance should really go out and get a job, even if it is not a fancy high-paying job. And the food stamp situation is really corrupt, because it should only provide basic necessities, not soda, candy, and junk food to make welfare bums get fat.
Again...you should consider not throwing around blanket statements. I get food stamps for my family, its true...less than $100 a month. I work my :bootyshake: off to support them otherwise. I would love to be off that support 100%, but I'm not going to hang my head over $100 a month.
You should be the one hanging your head for passing judgment on others like that. This isn't very christianlike behavior.
I pay just as many taxes as you do. Think about it.
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he has good ideas but terrible execution. If the repubs get a good canidate then no
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he has good ideas but terrible execution. If the repubs get a good canidate then no
I think he might have a good chance but I agree with your comment :)
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"some dumb person almost made me go there today lol!!!! let me wave at you! :wave: anyway although i like Obama i don't think his a great pick for 4 more years i had to put it in simple terms for that dumb person that keeps writting me lol he has not done anything really to help the people but put us in more debt take away from us and charge us more making are lives Hell!! i really don't care who comes next all i no is they got a big taks ahead. God Bless Them.
:thumbsup: I'm so proud!!! Now I understand and agree, Thank you.
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I don't think he can win but I thought that in 2008. I also though he would have been assasinated by now. Just shows how much I know about politics.
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I don't think he can win but I thought that in 2008. I also though he would have been assasinated by now. Just shows how much I know about politics.
What can anyone reply to that? I'm not a Democrat, but I sure didn't think anyone would assassinate our president. Now that Obama has a record (one year as a Senator, mostly voting "present", isn't a record), he's probably toast. Some of the other posters here give me hope, thankfully.
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Yes. Why? Because all the Republicans nominees are insane.
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if he dose we will be in the worst time sense the 1930 s we can not afford a another 4 yeas of the spending !the way he spend are money he think are money is his to spend the way he think it should be spend hot the way that the way we want to spend it he want to take are money and give it to his friend that don't want to earn it for them self
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I hope obama doesnt win again.
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Lord help us if he does! :'( :'(
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I hope not. We need change, but NOT the kind of changes the Obama administration has produced in this country.
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I hope he doesn't and I hope that Ron Paul wins in 2012. As far as I'm concerned he has the right ideas about where our country needs to go.
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I don't know it all depends on if the people who were routing for him based on his race will do it again.
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I do think that Obama will get another 4 years. He is trying his best to get the country back to where
it once was. I think that Obama is doing a fine job as President.
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I think that Obama is doing a fine job as President.
Why?
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I hope obama won't be second term. All these time spent as our president shows, he is not good for this country. In other words, he promised change all right, not exactly the change I was hoping for.
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I hope he doesn't he hasn't done anything good. he said he was going to do all this stuff. he hasn't and now that his term is up he decides to get our troops home and get us in debt. he's and idiot and i hope he loses, if he runs again.
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I'm going to do everything possible to help him win, including volunteering time during the next election. He's our country's last, best, and only hope.
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If he makes ANY cuts to Social Security, he can kiss reelection goodbye.
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oh yeah. He has this one wrapped up.
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I do not think he is going be re-elected. The real problem is: Who is going to solve all our economic problems! Who is going to be that magic new President?
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I do not think he is going be re-elected. The real problem is: Who is going to solve all our economic problems! Who is going to be that magic new President?
There isn't a magic new president. That kind of thinking is what got us Obama in the first place.
Conservatives and independants are going to pick a fiscally-conservative candidate who'll help fix our economy. Stick with us! :wave:
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Osama's death. Troop withdrawals. Bad economy. :dontknow:
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I hope not, but then again, no ones gonna like the next guy/girl who becomes president when its all said and done.
its a never ending cycle
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Not sure I should get into a political discussion here, especially with only my 2nd post (shameless plugs will continue until morale improves or post count expands to beyond finger counting)
I think Obama will win a second term, unless the GOP nominates Romney. He is the only one independents, who will decide the election, will vote for over Obama.
That being said, the trick is for Romney to overcome the crazies in the party running for nomination.
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I absoulty do not he will win another term he has not fixed the problems with our nation and we are less accredited than we where before we took office
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I hope he doesn't and I hope that Ron Paul wins in 2012. As far as I'm concerned he has the right ideas about where our country needs to go.
Ron Paul is a true patriotic American. He is truly working for the best welfare of our country, not special interests. Unfortunately, the media won't support him, and because there are too many people who let the media do their thinking for them, he'll never win.
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Here's Dr. Paul's first campaign ad:
http://youtu.be/dri0GwbBoIk
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I don't think he stands a chance at another term anyone who votes for him would be a fool and we thought he'd make a better change well some of us any way
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i think obama will win nother 4 year yes
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i hope so...i love obama
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HE should not win i realy dont think hes done any good for our country every things went down its so hard to find JOBS,i mean look and read on him boring...He Is
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Nope I don't think he will!!!
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I think he wont, and its about the U.S will elect an republican to office to get the job done.
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I hope not. If he does, I think the future four years will be REALLY BAD compared to his first four (and those were bad enough). I'm not sure yet who I would want to see as the next president...but almost anyone will seem like a relief.
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I hope he will win. I think it is very funny how the U.S is looking for a lot to be done with Obama. While we stood by for 8years and let Bush to put us in Chaos.
I didn't vote for him, either. Nor his dad.
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I don't think he can win but I thought that in 2008. I also though he would have been assasinated by now. Just shows how much I know about politics.
Me, either!
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Obama should win again, at least he found Bin Laden in which Bush was in office 2 terms and couldn't do that! Also Obama made sure we didn't have another "Katrina Malfunction". Everyone wants to blame Obama for Bush's mistakes, It took Bush 2 terms to get us in this mess, Let's give Obama 2 terms to get us out!! But the one thing I want Obama to change, is he needs to 100% back up Israel. We need to defend Israel under all circumstances. :heart:
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At this point I don't see anyone that can defeat him. I do not believe this country has any truly strong leaders in office.
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Obama should win again, at least he found Bin Laden in which Bush was in office 2 terms and couldn't do that! Also Obama made sure we didn't have another "Katrina Malfunction". Everyone wants to blame Obama for Bush's mistakes, It took Bush 2 terms to get us in this mess, Let's give Obama 2 terms to get us out!!
I have to agree, it took Bush 2 terms to get us into this mess, you should figure it will take at least 2 terms to get us out. As for the spending Obama is doing, well, part of it is for wars that were already going on when he took office. What should he do? Instant withdrawal of all troops to stop that spending?? Now wouldn't that create havoc world wide.
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At this point in time its hard to tell if he will make it another four years. Personally I hope he doesn't I feel has if he has just caused more of a mess while in office then cleaning it up.
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Like I said before, I hope he does. I don't see Obama giving speeches under "Mission Accomplished!" banners, because that would be dishonest. Obama knows there is a long road to go, and I have seen positives from him. Plus, at this point, all the Republicans that have been offered up for presidential nominee scare me. Don't even get me started on the tea party.
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No I dont. Bush may have started the mess, but Obama has made it worse. He has a confusing foreign policy and his economic policy hasnt worked. I dont think 4 more years of Keynesian economics is the answer and I dont see him changing his views on big government.
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like it or not, at present he will win again.
there is no republican candidate as yet that can carry the popular vote. Im not sure there is a declared candidate in the GOP than can even win their nomination at present.
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I think he will win again. I don't really see any Republican frontrunners that would win.
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I don't know but I think things are worse not better so I know I wouldn't want him back in office. We need to go down a different path this is not working for our economy. We need it fixed not worse and I thought he said I going to make things better. I think they all make promisses that they can't not keep.
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I don't see him winning another 4 years. If he did win, as a lame duck president I can not see any good coming from this. He may be the first black man to serve as president, but now he will be the first black man to serve one term as president, and can join the ranks of George H.W. Bush (George Sr.) when he served from 1990 to 1994 and Jimmy Carter who served from 1976 to 1980.
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I can't believe some people. Do I think Obama is perfect, no. Do I think he has done a good job with everything considering the condition things were in when he came into office. Yes. We gave everyone else 8 years to "SCREW" us. Now when someone gets into office that is different from the past presidents in only 1 way, we don't want to give him a chance to clean up someone's mess. Hypocrites...Racists still in these days and times. Who are we to judge. When Clinton left office America was in the Black. Bush took office and up to the day he left office, America has been in the Red. I guess you think that's Obama's fault.
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I really don't know, However, I will cast my vote along with many, many others to see who wins...
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I really like your post and i agree with everything you said you nailed it to the tee speak the truth nobody wonts to here that.
I can't believe some people. Do I think Obama is perfect, no. Do I think he has done a good job with everything considering the condition things were in when he came into office. Yes. We gave everyone else 8 years to "SCREW" us. Now when someone gets into office that is different from the past presidents in only 1 way, we don't want to give him a chance to clean up someone's mess. Hypocrites...Racists still in these days and times. Who are we to judge. When Clinton left office America was in the Black. Bush took office and up to the day he left office, America has been in the Red. I guess you think that's Obama's fault.
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Like you post speak the truth.
like it or not, at present he will win again.
there is no republican candidate as yet that can carry the popular vote. Im not sure there is a declared candidate in the GOP than can even win their nomination at present.
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I personally hope he doesn't win. We're 14.5 trillion in debt and now he's just announced another 447 billion dollar plan.. Unless we get serious about our debt our country is going to be in for some trouble.
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i hope not
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I'm no fan of Obama in the slightest, but I would vote for him over Perry/Bachman any day of the week and that includes Palin. Normally I leave people's personal religious beliefs to themselves and try to focus on policy and such, but the Dominionist philosphy espoused by these three is pretty scary and I would vote Obama over them any day. These are not people you want control of nukes. I'm hopeing America will be smart and elect Ron Paul, the only guy who undertands this mess, but I'm not real hopeful on that front.
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I'm no fan of Obama in the slightest, but I would vote for him over Perry/Bachman any day of the week and that includes Palin. Normally I leave people's personal religious beliefs to themselves and try to focus on policy and such, but the Dominionist philosphy espoused by these three is pretty scary and I would vote Obama over them any day. These are not people you want control of nukes. I'm hopeing America will be smart and elect Ron Paul, the only guy who undertands this mess, but I'm not real hopeful on that front.
What's the Dominionist philosophy? Why would anyone's religion be important if we have no country left? Please don't vote for Obama.
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I honestly don't know if he would win. I think that the American people are so upset at the things that aren't changing fast they don't realize the hardships the president must go through to fix the horrible situation the United States is in now. Has anyone realized how fast his hair went from black to peppered grey? Bush really put us in a state of decline after all his tax cuts, and don't get me wrong most of them were good. But after a point, we NEED taxes. Not just because it helps the government, but because it helps generate a LOT of revenue that we don't even realize. The tax money comes right back into circulation with the American people anyway. Its not all going to the government. But now that the debt ceiling is so high I don't think Obama has enough time to fix any of the new problems that have arisen. I highly doubt he will get another term, but I do think that the new president will get stuck with the same situation as Obama. A broken America and a lot of pressure from citizens to fix it, and fix it fast.
By NO means at all am I politically smart because, quite frankly I think I'm politically ignorant. But this is just my personal opinion made from the things I do know or have learned from school, the news or any other source.
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I honestly don't know if he would win. I think that the American people are so upset at the things that aren't changing fast they don't realize the hardships the president must go through to fix the horrible situation the United States is in now. Has anyone realized how fast his hair went from black to peppered grey? Bush really put us in a state of decline after all his tax cuts, and don't get me wrong most of them were good. But after a point, we NEED taxes. Not just because it helps the government, but because it helps generate a LOT of revenue that we don't even realize. The tax money comes right back into circulation with the American people anyway. Its not all going to the government. But now that the debt ceiling is so high I don't think Obama has enough time to fix any of the new problems that have arisen. I highly doubt he will get another term, but I do think that the new president will get stuck with the same situation as Obama. A broken America and a lot of pressure from citizens to fix it, and fix it fast.
By NO means at all am I politically smart because, quite frankly I think I'm politically ignorant. But this is just my personal opinion made from the things I do know or have learned from school, the news or any other source.
Taxes don't help. The more the government takes in the more it spends. It could tax us all at 100% and it would spend 150% as that is its nature. Think about all the things it is involved in, all the meddling and regulating and then read the enumerated powers given it "by the states" in the Constitution and limitations in the Bill or Rights. Consider then if the federal government just did its duties how well off we would be and how low taxes could be.
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I honestly don't know if he would win. I think that the American people are so upset at the things that aren't changing fast they don't realize the hardships the president must go through to fix the horrible situation the United States is in now. Has anyone realized how fast his hair went from black to peppered grey? Bush really put us in a state of decline after all his tax cuts, and don't get me wrong most of them were good. But after a point, we NEED taxes. Not just because it helps the government, but because it helps generate a LOT of revenue that we don't even realize. The tax money comes right back into circulation with the American people anyway. Its not all going to the government. But now that the debt ceiling is so high I don't think Obama has enough time to fix any of the new problems that have arisen. I highly doubt he will get another term, but I do think that the new president will get stuck with the same situation as Obama. A broken America and a lot of pressure from citizens to fix it, and fix it fast.
By NO means at all am I politically smart because, quite frankly I think I'm politically ignorant. But this is just my personal opinion made from the things I do know or have learned from school, the news or any other source.
Taxes don't help. The more the government takes in the more it spends. It could tax us all at 100% and it would spend 150% as that is its nature. Think about all the things it is involved in, all the meddling and regulating and then read the enumerated powers given it "by the states" in the Constitution and limitations in the Bill or Rights. Consider then if the federal government just did its duties how well off we would be and how low taxes could be.
As I said before I am by no means politically smart. I have heard of some town or city someplace that only has a sales tax. Nothing else. I haven't heard much about the place, I thought it was some kind of research tactic to see how well the people there would suffice. I've also heard of the new "world" they're building cost billions of dollars, where everything will be brand new? Have you heard about that? There is no rules, no laws, no regulations, no government, nothing. I was shocked that someone would even attempt to go back in time and restart the way of life we had. I'm not quite sure of all the details, but I don't know if I would want to participate in something like that. Don't get me wrong, I don't like taxes as much as the next person. But how else are we supposed to generate revenue other than taxes and large cuts to programs this country needs?
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As I said before I am by no means politically smart. I have heard of some town or city someplace that only has a sales tax. Nothing else. I haven't heard much about the place, I thought it was some kind of research tactic to see how well the people there would suffice. I've also heard of the new "world" they're building cost billions of dollars, where everything will be brand new? Have you heard about that? There is no rules, no laws, no regulations, no government, nothing. I was shocked that someone would even attempt to go back in time and restart the way of life we had. I'm not quite sure of all the details, but I don't know if I would want to participate in something like that. Don't get me wrong, I don't like taxes as much as the next person. But how else are we supposed to generate revenue other than taxes and large cuts to programs this country needs?
Do not assume I am correct simply because I say it with authority and you, as you mention, are not particularly studied in the area. There are those that take a different view than I do, I was just sort of giving my opinion based on the experience of my life. I decided quite some time ago that I knew better how to save or spend my money than the government did. I trust my judgments (have been wrong many times though) about my well being more so than I do the judgments of some distant bureaucrats involved in more aspects of others peoples lives than anyone has any right to be.
I think the place you are talking about is known as "libertarian island".
Regarding taxes though, some are necessary. They should keep it simply within the enumerated powers given to them. Think, though, how they go about meddling in other areas with these taxes they receive from us. A simple example is speed limits. The federal government has no authority to regulate speed limits within states and the abusive way they get around this is to withhold their monetary responsibilities for maintaining roads and other infrastructure unless the states comply with their rules outside areas of their control (such as a federal speed limit). In other words they collect taxes to maintain roads (enumerated power) but don't return these to the states unless the states comply with demands that the federal government has no authority to control (speed limit).
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I think the next 12 months will determine if Obama get re-elected. He inherited a mess but to this point has done nothing to fix it and has probably put us in a bigger mess. We need someone who is willing to make the hard decisions without trying to be liked or care themselves about being re-elected.
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I see. You seem to be knowledgeable enough to be living quite well though. Seeing as your factual answers are so detailed. I like that people can talk about things like this without being in each others faces and screaming their own opinion, in which they always think are right. It's been a pleasure chatting with you!
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all politicians are the same behind closed doors. i don't trust any of them!! i am an independant, and the only way this country is going to change is to get a libertarian in office who still believes that americans should still have rights. all the democrats and republicans believe in is having a big government to rule us all and take away our rights. the country is shot right now!! obama said he wants a change, and all it has done is get worse. i personally don't think this country will ever get back right. too many people have ruined it
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We will have to wait and see.
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:dontknow: I PRAY THAT HE DOES NOT!! BECAUSE, IF HE DOES----WHAT IS LEFT OF THIS COUNTRY WILL BE TOTALLY DESTROYED!! :crybaby2:
That Muslim, Communist, has kept ONE CAMPAIGN PROMISE-----To totally transform America.-----Yep, HE DID IT!! :angry7: :BangHead:
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all politicians are the same behind closed doors. i don't trust any of them!! i am an independant, and the only way this country is going to change is to get a libertarian in office who still believes that americans should still have rights. all the democrats and republicans believe in is having a big government to rule us all and take away our rights. the country is shot right now!! obama said he wants a change, and all it has done is get worse. i personally don't think this country will ever get back right. too many people have ruined it
Not all Republicans believe in big government. I don't, and neither do the TEA party members of Congress. Were you talking about RINOs? :D
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i know there are always exceptions. but i have conservative and liberal views, and consider myself to be more of an independant and libertarian. i was just giving my opinion on obama and ranting in the process because i hate government. i am very anti-govt. :BangHead:
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I think the next 12 months will determine if Obama get re-elected. He inherited a mess but to this point has done nothing to fix it and has probably put us in a bigger mess. We need someone who is willing to make the hard decisions without trying to be liked or care themselves about being re-elected.
You are so right. I hope that he does not get re-elected, because I don't think that he has a clue as to what to do.
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I do not think he will and I hope he doesn't! Four more years of big talk and bad actions are not wat Americans need. :crybaby2:
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i know there are always exceptions. but i have conservative and liberal views, and consider myself to be more of an independant and libertarian. i was just giving my opinion on obama and ranting in the process because i hate government. i am very anti-govt. :BangHead:
No problem, my friend. I definitely think that the government is way too involved in our lives.
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Ok it was nice to actually have "the first black president" and I voted for him for that reason and a few others. Let's face it though, he doesn't really deserve another 4 years! I know we probably shouldn't be having political discussions on FC, but I have to voice that he HAS NOT ACCOMPLISHED ALL HE SAID THAT HE PROMISED US AS A NATION! I do not think he deserves another try! He has everything messed up now that he is in office! I say let's get Bill Clinton back or a woman president would be better! :thumbsup:
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I say let's get Bill Clinton back or a woman president would be better! :thumbsup:
You know that presidents can only have two terms, right?
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I sure hope not! I dont think he will win though. I didnt vote for him, and wont vote for him again! We need a president with some *bleep*!! Our last few presidents havent been very good! Because our deficit and economy has been going down hill for quite awhile.
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it doesnt matter. there is allready a plan for america. the president is just a face. always has been. always will be. but for what it is worth, in more or less words, i like the person they have made "Obama" to be. :icon_rr:
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He didn't have my vote the first time & won't be getting it the second time, either.
well to me it went like this we will give this man a chance just to say well it did happen for a change. besides all and all is already mess up anyway then now that's out of the way. that will never happen again.but when will it ever.
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He didn't have my vote the first time & won't be getting it the second time, either.
well to me it went like this we will give this man a chance just to say well it did happen for a change. besides all and all is already mess up anyway then now that's out of the way. that will never happen again.but when will it ever.
What?
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I sure hope not! I dont think he will win though. I didnt vote for him, and wont vote for him again! We need a president with some *bleep*!! Our last few presidents havent been very good! Because our deficit and economy has been going down hill for quite awhile.
I've heard rumors that the Democrats will try to run some candidates to the Left of Obama, not to beat him but to pull him more in that direction. Or I've heard that Hillary Clinton might be dusted off to run instead. What do you think of these desperate moves?
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what do you think? will he win? if yes, would he do anything different to change the situation we are in now? who can do better?
I certainly hope he does not win.
If he did I do not see him doing anything different to make things right for the American people. Everything he has done so far has caused more havoc in this country and no one but big business and the politicians themselves are benefiting from it. He has used is power as President to to do some under handed things, things that the American public should have had the vote on. What happened to his big promise to bring jobs to the people. There are no jobs out there today or should I say very few. We need jobs not only for the highly educated but also for those of us that could not afford to get an education. Bring back the factory work of years ago. I know where I live we used to have many factories, some good paying jobs and now there are none.
I don't know who could do better but they would have to have a very wide knowledge base behind them to fix what the last two Presidents have screwed up.
I miss how the economy was when Bill Clinton was is office, yes I know many didn't like him and he made some mistakes in his personal life, but this country was thriving and that to me was the most important thing. He did his job well and did it for the American people to have better lives.
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what do you think? will he win? if yes, would he do anything different to change the situation we are in now? who can do better?
The only reason he won in the first place is because no one was able to discern from his skewed presentations during initial debates during elections. People go caught up in the whole idea of "change" and their brain locked up at that point. I would like to think America is a little smarter than that, but unfortunately not.
Who can do better? Someone that has an agenda to help America as a whole and to make a longterm difference. Common sense tells me that if we are not producing anything, we will probably continue to fail. What do you think? Does the problem sound simple?
All this infusing money into the system is something we did back in the day when Americans were still willing to work. Those days are over!
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i hope he does and do better then he has done for the people of the united states.
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I say let's get Bill Clinton back or a woman president would be better! :thumbsup:
You know that presidents can only have two terms, right?
Yes I know I was just insisting. :star:
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He didn't have my vote the first time & won't be getting it the second time, either.
well to me it went like this we will give this man a chance just to say well it did happen for a change. besides all and all is already mess up anyway then now that's out of the way. that will never happen again.but when will it ever.
What?
I will second your "What?" and also add it is people like him/her that have NO business voting or complaining about the state of the country. If you haven't a clue how things actually work, stay away from politics and decisions for the rest of our sakes, please. :P
I'll vote for Obama - when my wings and horns sprout..... :angry7:
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I liked how the president has kept to his slogan... He has kept us hoping that the economy will improve, and at the same time has left us with nothing but a little loose change.
Seriously, I don't think he will win. Almost every election after his has gone to the republicans, including a few surprise elections in historically democratic districts. People are upset with the economy (always a losing issue for the incumbent). Although former president Bush did muck things up in terms of the economy, President Obama has had enough time (and a willing congress from his own party for the first two years) to make changes to correct those issues. However instead of trying to address the issue of the economy right away, he used his legislative leverage to ram Obama Care down our throats (when we have to pass a bill to know what's in a bill... I call that ramming down our throats).
And the policies that he is now employing to "fix" the economy are actually making things worse. the true Keynesian philosophy is to increase taxation during good economic times to increase government coffers such that when the economy turns south, the government can increase their spending to cause a stimulus in demand to the economy. However for quite some time, our country has incurred a debt, not a surplus, even during the good economic times of the Reagan and Clinton years. So to now try to increase government spending as a demand stimulus, we either have to increase deficit spending or have to raise taxes to cover the cost for the additional spending. This puts us in another predicament in that our debt is so large now that there is fear that the US may default on our loans (which is why the US credit rating was lowered even after the debt-limit was increased), so increased deficit spending may do more harm than good. On the other hand, increase in taxes decreases the amount of money that resides in the private sector, which is what we are trying to stimulate in the first place. The increased government spending may boost the demand for private sector goods and services, but the taxes are pulling the money right back out again (and since it goes through a bunch of red-tape in the process, less money makes it back into the private sector).
There is also a lot of concern in the private sector in that businesses don't know what to expect from the government. At first president Obama was saying that to repeal the Bush tax cuts would only hurt the struggling economy, but now that Obama is in re-election mode, he's singing a different tune. When companies see this uncertainty, it makes it even more difficult to hire workers. When a company hires someone, they are measuring how the asset will effect business not only now, but in the years to come. Workers are not an expendable resource like physical products: a new computer you pay $50K once, but a worker you may pay $50K every year that they are with the company. So it is always in the companies best interest when they are able to rely on what future expenses are going to be in order to project whether they should hire. If, however, a company has fears that they may not have the money in the future -- be it from increases in taxes, increased energy costs, regulatory costs, healthcare costs, etc. -- that company is less likely to hire new workers. Unfortunately, our current president has been increasing each of these costs, whether it be in taxes, his energy plan (esp. in light of the BP disaster), or Obama Care (esp. if the health insurance mandate is ruled unconstitutional as it has been in several lesser federal courts).
It's all well and good to claim that president Obama inherited a bad economy, but if the first driver pointed a car towards the edge of a cliff and a second driver says he'll fix the situation by stepping on the gas, I thinks it's time to get a third driver in there to stomp on the brakes and turn the car around.
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no i dont think he will, personaly
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I'm not sure if he will win or not. But I do believe there are a lot of people that voted for him that think he hasn't done what he said he would do. The real problem is congress. They need to learn to get along.
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I don't think congress should get along. It was designed to be combative as anything it does (other than repealing laws) is a constraint against our freedoms. The founders knew this and so they designed it to be difficult to pass laws. This has been changed and no longer can you manage the virtual one man filibuster and they even have it now that you can do a simple majority vote on many issues -- something that was never intended. Think about it people are you so hopeless and incapable that you need others telling you what to do and how to do it? I know I sure don't.
Remember if you start following the ways of a democracy you will eventually most likely become an oligarchy and understand this is why we don't have a democracy but instead a republic.
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Obama wil win if the Republicans cannot put up a serious candidate. it seems all they do is fight during the debates. This isn't giving my much confidence for a change in Washington for 2012. But another four years of Obama and we will all be eating at soup kitchens, :sad1:
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No. Even with the help of the media covering for him, people know what a disaster this man has been.
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Yes; he's the only alternative to the Tea Party nightmare. I hope that next time around, he stops being so nice to those bastards. They can't be reasoned with.
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Yes; he's the only alternative to the Tea Party nightmare. I hope that next time around, he stops being so nice to those bastards. They can't be reasoned with.
Language, please... I disagree with Democrats, but I don't go around calling them names. Yes, I'm a member of the TEA party. :wave:
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More people need to weigh in on this question! :thumbsup:
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I sure hope not. I didn't vote for him the first time.
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I don't think he will be running this time. I think he's feeling a bit overwhelmed with the way things have gone during his term. Just my 2 cents.
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No, I do not!! Obama has tons of charisma, seems to be intelligent but is sorely lacking in experience... He has been all over the board on almost every issue that is on the table. He has made implied promises by not thoroughly explaining what the real implications would be. The presidency is not a nine to five job and is no place for on the job training.
HE DID IT HIS WAY!!!! ???
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He will probably be re-elected but for reasons that do not rely on strengths. The weakness of the Republican candidates as well as the favorable lack of media exposure over the weaknesses of his administration will lead to 4 more years. Just my opinion. Whoever wins, just hope it helps puts the country back on the correct path.
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I don't think he will be running this time. I think he's feeling a bit overwhelmed with the way things have gone during his term. Just my 2 cents.
While he might be feeling 'overwhelmed', his over-the-top egotistical view of his own worth will force him to run again. Every time I have bothered to listen to him, which is very rare, I have come away feeling he looks at his constituents [us] as far beneath him. He has that Cheshire Cat smirk always present and that makes me very uneasy. I don't trust politicians, but I still somewhat trust the process. Obama has his focus on far too many things that do NOT concern him and they are NOT in the best interest of the country or it's people.
The sad thing about it is the utter lack of knowledge in the voting booth. I research, I seek out information, and I know people that are involved with the government. I don't vote without knowing what candidates stand for, how many important policies they have been a part of, and also their own voting history. If you choose to do nothing but vote, [if you even vote] but have NO clue when you are casting that vote, then you get what you get, period. That would be just fine if it only affected your life. You/we are all free to vote for whomever it may be, but if you want this clown back in office, please remember how the tent fell down during his current job as the ringleader of the circus. >:(
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i think whether he will run again or not i believe everthing happen for a reason. the most important thing is that for the first time in many years people around this country put there differences aside to elect a black man to be the president of the united state. how amazing is that....
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More people need to weigh in on this question! :thumbsup:
Are you serial? 115+ comments and more people to weigh in on the this question?
Thanks for the laugh!
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More people need to weigh in on this question! :thumbsup:
Are you serial? 115+ comments and more people to weigh in on the this question?
Thanks for the laugh!
You're welcome. And thank you for one, too! :D
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I'll like that Obama have another chance. Because we shouldn't expect that Obama will not fix completely 8 years of Bush government :thumbsup:
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I believe he's been doing a fairly good job so far compared to others,
Another term may reveal what it would be like if the cockpit wasn't a mess before he got in.
I would like to see so I hope he wins.
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One thing to realize is that someone who finds himself in a position such as the president, is indeed rational. Realize how I used the word rational and not intelligent. What this means is that whoever is in this position understands his or her options very well, much like a chess master, and in turn, understands the limitations of his or her options. Most of the time when things went bad there was no other sensible choice. Obama knows this and he understands there was nothing else he could do.
So before you ask whether or not Obama is "worthy" of anther 4 years, ask yourself who could do a better job and why. Obama follows much of the same policies Bush laid out, and whoever follows Obama will do the same. The state of the country itself is rarely ever affected by the decisions of one person (even the president), and the US economy fluctuates (in my opinion is going to rise). So whether Obama or the next "best" candidate takes office, I feel, will not matter so much.
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I'm curious how other people feel about this question... :D
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I beg to differ that Obama follows much the same policies that Bush did. When did Bush (or any other president) try to force "Healthcare Reform" and Socialist policies on citizens who want neither? When did Bush run the deficit to unbeleivable heights as a way to "jump start" the economy and failed miserably? When did Bush make it his personal crusade to leave an unpayable government debt for our children and grandchildren to bear the brunt of? Somebody needs to get their facts straight. :angry7:
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Somebody needs to get their facts straight. :angry7:
Truer words never spoken. That somebody however, is you.
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I certainly hopoe he doesn't get four more years. He spends way too much money. I thought it was out of control with Bush in office but has gotten much worse.
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I certainly hopoe he doesn't get four more years. He spends way too much money. I thought it was out of control with Bush in office but has gotten much worse.
I agree. I'm not sure who I want because I don't trust any politician in general because they all seem to have very little integrity.