God in our Public Schools

[liljp617]

what you listed was yuor own personal thoughts..if yuor that intrested in christianity then try it for yourself its not in my place to try and define christianity for you

No, they're really not.  That was my point.  To be labeled a Christian, there are three things you must accept:

1)  Belief in the existence and intervention of Yahweh, the Christian deity.
2)  Belief in the existence and divinity of Jesus Christ
3)  Self-proclamation that you're a Christian.


Anything else is arbitrary and changes depending on what branch of Christianity you follow.  Those three things listed above are the bare minimum to be labeled a Christian.

Christianity has been tried by me.  I was baptized in the Catholic church and was a practicing Catholic for over half my life.

[zacterrie]

Yes i think god should be in our schools.

[Falconer02]

It's funny that people can be so small minded to think God and the Belief in God slows down Science and Progress but in all truth it actually speeds it up because people are so desperate to know the truth and how life became and what caused it to happen.

Funny how most scientists are agnostics or atheists.

Oil Spills
Polar Bears extinct in 2050
Holes in the Ozone Layer

We noticed these problems through technology and have/are trying to repair them. Oil spills? Thicker hulls. Polar Bears? Up in the air if we're causing this. This is an argument for another thread. Ozone Layer? Ridiculously better than it was 20 years ago. Do your research. Many people tell you this but you keep failing to do it.

There is a thing called a Simple life and don't you know technology is of the Devil and pretty soon you will see why

I stopped reading right here. You're posting on a computer inside of a heated home aren't you? You took a shower this morning? Do you own a car? Did you drive down a road? Technology has done amazing things throughout history and improved every life on this earth but you decide to just concentrait on the few negative things it brings. How dare you badmouth this worlds infrastructure. You have no idea how to argue and are so completely naive and ignorant it's laughable. You, maddam, are despicable.

[eSineM]

There is a thing called a Simple life and don't you know technology is of the Devil and pretty soon you will see why

hehe wow

Then everything you do in this Life is devilish....!? It really seems, to me, like your posts go in circles...I can never understand your real point of view.

[Falconer02]

Well if you're just posting thoughts that make no sense, don't post them! Come back when you've thought them through and can add to the collective argument!

[Falconer02]

Why don't you just leave me alone

Because you posted. This is a forum.

[totosli_08]

Why don't you just leave me alone

Because you posted. This is a forum.

what ive learn from these posts is that ..you catn convense anyone of anything and that people are gonna do what they wanna do and believe what they wanna believe .i believe god is real and thats all that matters im not gonna focus on  and judge weather or not someone elses life is  right with god ..i just want to be right with god ..and im glad i belive.. so i incourage you to stay beliving and speak out on your thoughts and im glad you posted it

[Kymberli0529]

I don't understand why everyone makes these posts into such a huge debate.  It's almost like certain people believe, by pointing out facts or bullshit or calling the other person out on their inconsistencies, they're going to bring others around to their way of thinking.  This is a forum and I understand and completely respect that everyone has their own opinion but that's exactly what it is....an opinion.  Stop judging and just respect the fact that we're all different.

[walksalone11]

I don't understand why everyone makes these posts into such a huge debate.  It's almost like certain people believe, by pointing out facts or bullshit or calling the other person out on their inconsistencies, they're going to bring others around to their way of thinking.  This is a forum and I understand and completely respect that everyone has their own opinion but that's exactly what it is....an opinion.  Stop judging and just respect the fact that we're all different.

Whose judging?......In your Judgment...am I judging?

[Kymberli0529]

I'm not going to get into another debate or arguement, I'm just saying people should be more respectful of others opinions.   

[Falconer02]

I don't understand why everyone makes these posts into such a huge debate

Is this your first forum? 

I'm just saying people should be more respectful of others opinions

Well then it is my opinion that nobody is stating any decent reason as to why we should have god in our public schools. We are getting way off topic and all I'm seeing is scribbled posts that make no sense. I fail to see a reason as to why these people continue posting random bits of whatever pops up every second in their heads without taking the time to think or proof read/spellcheck. When someone posts something so awful as "Technology is the devil!" and they support having god in schools, it shows the horrid messed up logic that goes on in people who want god in schools-- it makes that side of the argument look terrible.

Walksalone said it best-- we're calling out peoples inconsistencies so people actually taking the time to read the posts can gain whatever knowledge they like.

[liljp617]

I'm not going to get into another debate or arguement, I'm just saying people should be more respectful of others opinions.  

For what?  If people posted here about how black people are the scum of the Earth and should all be killed, should we respect that opinion and tolerate the content of the opinion?  Surely the answer is no.  One should tolerate the right of everyone to have an opinion (and I'm sure everyone here does, at least I do), but that tolerance does not translate into respecting the actual content of the opinion.  The content of people's opinions should not be placed on a pedestal under the label of "opinion."  If the content of the opinion is nonsensical or plain false, it should be corrected.  If the content is outrageous and non-serious, it deserves no respect.


And you don't have to respond to me, as it's clear you don't want to.

[walksalone11]

I'm not going to get into another debate or arguement, I'm just saying people should be more respectful of others opinions.   

When someones opinion is in support of an institution that has, since it's inception, been one of the most superioristic, non accepting,violent, hateful, murderous, heinous etc etc etc institutions in the history of man kind,that has been directly responcible for the deaths on hundreds of millions of peoples, and in fact caused the extinction of entire nations(low estimate of 20 million of my people alone and in only the last 500 years) I see no reason to respect it. I do how ever see great and proven danger of loss of more life and the extinction of even more cultures, by the acceptance by people like you, of people trying to force this ideology onto others, or further reinforce the social stigma attached to be a non member and enabling this superioristic attitudes.

I admit that most who push christianity are completely ignorant of what it is they support. They believe, as we have seen here, atleast twice recently, that people doing horrendous things are not really representative of christianity. It is very easy and very fast to find a tremendous amount of information online about atrocities committed from the time of inception, right up to last week. And not only by some no bodies who claim they are christians but by ministers, pastors, priests, elders, deacons, popes and all sorts of church leaders.

The problem of people remaining ignorant, while running all over pressuring others to join into this madness, is quit simply unacceptable and very very dangerous, as has been proven over and over.

When someone comes into this, or any other, forum and looks down their nose and tells me I should turn my back and disrespect my Ancestors, walk away from the people, traditions and culture I adore and become a member of an institutions that has tried for the last 517+ years to make our Culture extinct...and then YOU tell me I should respect them......I say F YOU!!!

[liljp617]

So that means I should hate white people because what they did to my ancestors according to your logic.
See my Great Grandmother was pure blood Cherokee Indian and if you ever heard of the Trail of Tears, then I should hate the people that took over this country and killed the Indians.

This is not what he said in the least bit.

[lfwebb91]

After reading all of the post on this forum today I have come to a few interesting thoughts. These have been brought about by almost all of you(save some of the more ignorant of you). When one thinks of the statute of right and wrong you have to wonder where this came from. The more religious of course will say that it came from the Bible so I will not direct this question at you, but I want to know from those of you similar to me. I have often thought that a conscience is something that we are all just born with, but as this forum shows, peoples so called 'inner voices' differ just as our opinions do. And since this is the case who has the right to say that what someone is doing is right or wrong. One example could be homosexuality and marriage. Some people are against it to the point of dying just to make sure that homosexuals never get the right to marry while others want to live to just see it happen. And then you have 'moderates who secretly take a stand on it but do not want to get flamed for their opinion so they either lie or just stay quiet. But let's take on a more extreme case such as racism. I would have to say that the majority of Americans will say that they are not racist, but I know many people who were afraid to say they did not vote for Obama this past election for fear of being labeled a racist. Because the popular 'belief' is that racism is wrong. My question is who says? If someone wants to hate members of another race who has the right to tell them they are wrong for doing it if they themselves think they are justified in doing so. If I have not struck at least some sort of nerve so far then this next topic will surely at least raise your eyebrows(if only for the fact you hope I never post again). Murder is seen by many as wrong and this is a common notion. But what if someone murdered your son or daughter right before your very eyes....on accident. And in a rage you murdered the person who did it. You believe you are justified in doing so and believe you did nothing wrong, but someone tells you that you are wrong. Many will simply just point to the Bible or even the Constitution, but both are just pieces of paper that millions of people follow every day.