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countrygirl12

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Re: Name Changes
« Reply #45 on: June 23, 2020, 09:25:20 am »
::)  Obviously you have not been around too many people from Mexico.  I know a guy that is from Mexico and he mixes the two languages all the time.   And no I do not think I have ever seen Gone with the Wind.  You still did not answer my question. You ignore where I said what I read I thought this product was sold in another country.  Which goes back to words mean different things in different languages and different countries.

Yes, I live around and work with Mexican people. That's why I learned Spanish. What was your question that I didn't answer? The toothpaste is called Darkie (a well-known reference to a dark-skinned person), the logo is a blackfaced man, and the Chinese characters translate to "black person toothpaste". What else could these three things together be interpreted as? I do not see this as meaning anything else than what it is. Especially, when there's already a documented history on its origin.

Be offended.  That is fine.  I honestly do not care what people call their products.
This is why racism still exists. Because people "don't care".

The question not answered is I thought this toothpaste was sold in another country. In a country where the word "darkie" would not mean the same as people say it means here.  I had actually never heard the word and if I did would not associate it with referring to a black person.  Guess I just don't think that way.  That is why I referenced the thumbs up.  You can have a product and have a character on the package giving a thumbs up and it does not mean anything bad. But in some countries they say it means something bad.  So it would depend on where the product was sold.

And as far as not caring what people call their products that has nothing to do with racism.  The sad thing is how so many want to act like racism is just white against black.  There are blacks that are more racist against whites than anybody else ever thought about being. 

I will also point out - so why are people not offended by the hair products that are specifically for black women?

And if you live and work with mexican people and they don't mix the two languages they are an exception. Most of the ones around here do that. This guy I use to work with does it a lot. Especially if he gets excited.  I talked to a hispanic guy at Walmart the other day and he was doing it. I actually knew the words he said in spanish so it was not a problem.

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Re: Name Changes
« Reply #46 on: June 24, 2020, 10:39:19 pm »
Aunt Jemima was the first female black millionaire.  First black woman owned major/national business, I agree it is an insult to change the name.  That seems like very good history to celebrate.

Interesting.  Didn't know this.  I love Aunt Jemimas.

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« Reply #47 on: June 25, 2020, 04:00:43 am »
I believe that they are trying to delete history and it should not be.  Not only they are taking down statues of confederate people but also of Christopher Columbus and others from the Conquistador times?  Seriously!  I fear we will eventually come to the realization that we cannot erase every single instance of inequality or prejudice in our society merely by changing the labels and products, statues, flags, city and school names, etc. that some people (in many cases quite legitimately) find offensive. 

I come from an Spanish country, and Negro is the color black, but is also a nickname for people.  My cousins name is Vicky and she is the darkest of her sisters and we have always called "Negra" and not as an insult is just a nickname and she has never been offended.  There is a lot of discrimination around the world. Changing labels, is literally just that ... changing a label. Changing hearts (on BOTH sides of the issues) is a much bigger mountain to climb. By picking and choosing what names/labels/products are offensive, we are creating a slippery slope on the climbing side of that mountain.

I can understand why some people finds these stuff offensive but there is always a teaching moment on everything you see, instead of just taking it down or eliminating the name, they should show the history behind it.  I also find offensive that for many US citizens everyone who speaks Spanish is "Mexican".  Mexico is not the only country South of the USA that speaks Spanish but instead of getting mad and tell them that I come from Panama and we also speak Spanish.

So changing labels is not going to solve the problem.  It wil only be solved when the mind set is changed.
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« Reply #48 on: June 25, 2020, 04:34:42 am »
People need to look at Venezuela. The people are starving to death. Socialism does not work so don't even start with oh we would do it right.  If you do some research you will find with them it started the same way...taking down statues and erasing history. LYWB168 you are correct in that changing the name of a product or the label does not change history.  And history does not need to be changed.  Besides the fact that nobody alive today had anything to do with things that happened 100 plus years ago.  I have said for a long time that people better wake up. I think it is now too late to wake up.

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« Reply #49 on: June 25, 2020, 06:35:28 am »
I think we've gotten kind of crazy with being politically correct.  Aunt Jeminma Syrup is in no way racist.  The woman who is pictured on the bottle was highly paid and very well compensated.  Come on people!  Let use a little common sense. 

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Re: Name Changes
« Reply #50 on: June 25, 2020, 10:17:47 am »
I think we've gotten kind of crazy with being politically correct.  Aunt Jeminma Syrup is in no way racist.  The woman who is pictured on the bottle was highly paid and very well compensated.  Come on people!  Let use a little common sense. 

Her family was also still receiving royalties.  And when the name changes those payments will stop.  I saw something where her nephew is crying about that.  I don't know who started it but I am guessing it if was the family they did not think things through.  I think everything needs to come in a plain white and a plain black package. You can buy which ever one does not offend you.  And names of every product need to be very generic. Then the butthurt society I woke up in a few weeks ago can get on with living their lives.

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« Reply #51 on: June 25, 2020, 02:33:29 pm »
What are your thoughts on changing the names of Aunt Jemina, Uncle Ben, and Eskimo Pie?

Don't really care. I used to like Aunt Jemima syrup but it's nothing but corn syrup which is so bad for your health.  I do see the destroying of our history & culture under false pretenses & hyperbolic nonsense as nothing more than moving the world to a more progressive one world order, which has been the plan since Bush the elder was in office. They are playing the long game, like China & their 100 year plan. Nothing is by happenstance & I don't think there is anything to be done to stop it.

It is not corn syrup. Nothing at all like corn syrup.


Ingredients: Corn Syrup, High Fructose Corn Syrup, Water, Cellulose Gum, Caramel Color, Salt, Natural And Artificial Flavor, Sodium Benzoate And Sorbic Acid (Preservatives), Sodium Hexametaphosphate.

https://www.auntjemima.com/products/syrups/original


Oops!  Read the label!  Learned this and now I only buy Natural Maple Syrup! 

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« Reply #52 on: June 25, 2020, 02:34:48 pm »
I think we've gotten kind of crazy with being politically correct.  Aunt Jeminma Syrup is in no way racist.  The woman who is pictured on the bottle was highly paid and very well compensated.  Come on people!  Let use a little common sense. 

Her family was also still receiving royalties.  And when the name changes those payments will stop.  I saw something where her nephew is crying about that.  I don't know who started it but I am guessing it if was the family they did not think things through.  I think everything needs to come in a plain white and a plain black package. You can buy which ever one does not offend you.  And names of every product need to be very generic. Then the butthurt society I woke up in a few weeks ago can get on with living their lives.


Won't they still receive the royalties for the recipe, even if the name changes or the picture/label?

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Re: Name Changes
« Reply #53 on: June 25, 2020, 04:30:43 pm »
i dont see the name to change them and i agree that it is an insult to the history of these characters if i understand my facts correctly

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« Reply #54 on: June 25, 2020, 05:01:38 pm »
I think we've gotten kind of crazy with being politically correct.  Aunt Jeminma Syrup is in no way racist.  The woman who is pictured on the bottle was highly paid and very well compensated.  Come on people!  Let use a little common sense. 

Her family was also still receiving royalties.  And when the name changes those payments will stop.  I saw something where her nephew is crying about that.  I don't know who started it but I am guessing it if was the family they did not think things through.  I think everything needs to come in a plain white and a plain black package. You can buy which ever one does not offend you.  And names of every product need to be very generic. Then the butthurt society I woke up in a few weeks ago can get on with living their lives.


Won't they still receive the royalties for the recipe, even if the name changes or the picture/label?

Idk.  The article I read said they would lose that. It makes sense if it is the recipe. But I thought it was just her picture they were using. 

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« Reply #55 on: June 25, 2020, 05:02:35 pm »
i dont see the name to change them and i agree that it is an insult to the history of these characters if i understand my facts correctly

Never thought of that. Obviously they did not have any issues with their picture been used and agreed to it. I honestly think they would be disgusted if they could see what is going on in the world today.

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Re: Name Changes
« Reply #56 on: June 26, 2020, 09:10:30 am »
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This is why racism still exists. Because people "don't care".
No...racism exists and continues to exist because there are those that DO care about this belief in racial superiority over another and behave in an antagonistic, discriminatory and prejudicial manner because of it.
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« Reply #57 on: June 26, 2020, 09:59:56 am »
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This is why racism still exists. Because people "don't care".
No...racism exists continues to exist because there are those that DO care about this belief in racial superiority over another and behave in an antagonistic, discriminatory and prejudicial manner because of it.
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Re: Name Changes
« Reply #58 on: June 29, 2020, 06:56:57 pm »
I don't think that is necessary, but it really doesn't bother me. If they want to change it, go ahead and change it.

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Re: Name Changes
« Reply #59 on: June 29, 2020, 07:19:42 pm »
These liberals are extremely crazy, this is all coming from the universities....

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