Name Changes

[aflyingmonkey]

What are your thoughts on changing the names of Aunt Jemina, Uncle Ben, and Eskimo Pie?

Don't really care. I used to like Aunt Jemima syrup but it's nothing but corn syrup which is so bad for your health.  I do see the destroying of our history & culture under false pretenses & hyperbolic nonsense as nothing more than moving the world to a more progressive one world order, which has been the plan since Bush the elder was in office. They are playing the long game, like China & their 100 year plan. Nothing is by happenstance & I don't think there is anything to be done to stop it.

[1imaginarygirl]

Colgate-Palmolive Co. said Thursday it is working with its Chinese partner, Hawley & Hazel Chemical Co., on changes to its Darkie brand toothpaste.

The toothpaste, which is popular in Asia, was called Darkie when it was first introduced in the 1930s. Packages featured a drawing of a minstrel singer in blackface with a wide smile; a Hawey & Hazel executive came up with the logo after visiting the United States and seeing Al Jolson perform. The Chinese name on the box translated to “black man toothpaste.”

I'm white, so I have no right to say whether these things are offensive or not to people of color. BUT... Darkie toothpaste!? That's pretty bad! 

Not really. It is not sold in the US.  You can't get all butthurt because a word in another language can be made to mean something different in your language.  I honestly would not have thought about a toothpaste being called "Darkie".  It would never have entered my mind it could or would mean anything.  Just a name.  Guess black people gonna be peed off about people naming their dog "Blackie" now.  One of the most popular names for dogs.

Did you know that in come countries doing the "thumbs up" which people do all the time in the US is considered offensive? So are we suppose to say you can't do that any more because somebody somewhere might be offended up it?  Guess what pretty much everything you do will offend somebody.  If you want to know what it means google it.

What difference does it make where it's sold? It's not a bad "translation", and it doesn't make it less offensive. The original logo is literally a black man and it's called Darkie. There's no ambiguity there and completely different than a thumbs up with different meanings.

It makes a lot of difference where it is sold. Did you even read what I said?  Words mean different things in different languages. No it is not completely different.  The thumbs up is an example of something else that in one country means something good and in another supposedly means something bad.  Just like in spanish the word "negro" means the color black.  That is THEIR WORD for the color black. You can be offended all you want and you can choose to be offended by everything coming and going. I chose not to.  Makes life a whole lot happier. lol

Yes, I read what you said. But "darkie" is not a different language. It's English, and it's generally considered derogatory, along with blackface, whether you agree or not. And even though they've changed the logo and the name to Darlie, the Chinese characters still translate to "black person toothpaste". It's easy to say you're not offended when it's not referring to you.

[countrygirl12]

Colgate-Palmolive Co. said Thursday it is working with its Chinese partner, Hawley & Hazel Chemical Co., on changes to its Darkie brand toothpaste.

The toothpaste, which is popular in Asia, was called Darkie when it was first introduced in the 1930s. Packages featured a drawing of a minstrel singer in blackface with a wide smile; a Hawey & Hazel executive came up with the logo after visiting the United States and seeing Al Jolson perform. The Chinese name on the box translated to “black man toothpaste.”

I'm white, so I have no right to say whether these things are offensive or not to people of color. BUT... Darkie toothpaste!? That's pretty bad! 

Not really. It is not sold in the US.  You can't get all butthurt because a word in another language can be made to mean something different in your language.  I honestly would not have thought about a toothpaste being called "Darkie".  It would never have entered my mind it could or would mean anything.  Just a name.  Guess black people gonna be peed off about people naming their dog "Blackie" now.  One of the most popular names for dogs.

Did you know that in come countries doing the "thumbs up" which people do all the time in the US is considered offensive? So are we suppose to say you can't do that any more because somebody somewhere might be offended up it?  Guess what pretty much everything you do will offend somebody.  If you want to know what it means google it.

What difference does it make where it's sold? It's not a bad "translation", and it doesn't make it less offensive. The original logo is literally a black man and it's called Darkie. There's no ambiguity there and completely different than a thumbs up with different meanings.

It makes a lot of difference where it is sold. Did you even read what I said?  Words mean different things in different languages. No it is not completely different.  The thumbs up is an example of something else that in one country means something good and in another supposedly means something bad.  Just like in spanish the word "negro" means the color black.  That is THEIR WORD for the color black. You can be offended all you want and you can choose to be offended by everything coming and going. I chose not to.  Makes life a whole lot happier. lol

Yes, I read what you said. But "darkie" is not a different language. It's English, and it's generally considered derogatory, along with blackface, whether you agree or not. And even though they've changed the logo and the name to Darlie, the Chinese characters still translate to "black person toothpaste". It's easy to say you're not offended when it's not referring to you.

lol No I am just not a snowflake.  The first question I asked was "is this toothpaste not sold in another country and this name used in another country" where it would mean something totally different.  That was the whole point.  Just like I just said in mexico saying you have a negro car means you have a black car.  That is THEIR word for black - the color black.  But if you say that same thing in the US people will come unglued.  It all depends on who you are "offending". If it is offensive to a Christian they are just suppose to get over it.

As far as "darkie" I have actually never heard that word before.  Especially have not heard it used to describe a person.
If you research it there are a lot of words used in various countries that mean something totally different or even "offensive" in other countries.  I guess we are all going to have to not talk and not have names on products because no matter what it is somewhere somebody will be offended.

[countrygirl12]

What are your thoughts on changing the names of Aunt Jemina, Uncle Ben, and Eskimo Pie?

Don't really care. I used to like Aunt Jemima syrup but it's nothing but corn syrup which is so bad for your health.  I do see the destroying of our history & culture under false pretenses & hyperbolic nonsense as nothing more than moving the world to a more progressive one world order, which has been the plan since Bush the elder was in office. They are playing the long game, like China & their 100 year plan. Nothing is by happenstance & I don't think there is anything to be done to stop it.

It is not corn syrup. Nothing at all like corn syrup.  I use to really like corn syrup but not so much any more.

Nothing will ever go back to how it was in the world. You are right about the One World Order. But that doesn't happen til after the rapture. And no everything happening is Bible prophecy and nothing is going to stop it from happening EXACTLY LIKE the BIBLE SAYS not the way some interpret it to be.  The Bible also says there will be false religions and false prophets.  Matt 7:21 says "not everyone who says to me Lord Lord will enter in to the Kingdom of Heaven" and in Matt 7:23 God will tell them "I never knew you, depart from me - you workers of inequity".

I don't know that it started with Bush.  More like the last president.

Anyway, I am sure the devil will show up and make fun of me and try to correct me. That is okay too. Romans 12:19 God says "vengeance is mine" and He will take care of it in HIS time. The Bible says what it does and it means what it says. Hell is real.  You can deny that all you want but it won't keep you from spending eternity there. I don't argue with people.  Matt 10:14 says if people don't want to listen to "dust off your feet and move on".  We live in an area where the Truth is available.  People can accept it or reject it.  In today's world people are looking for a "feel good religion" where there is no punishment (contrary to the Word of God) and where you can do whatever you want with no consequences.  That's not how it works.

[1imaginarygirl]

Colgate-Palmolive Co. said Thursday it is working with its Chinese partner, Hawley & Hazel Chemical Co., on changes to its Darkie brand toothpaste.

The toothpaste, which is popular in Asia, was called Darkie when it was first introduced in the 1930s. Packages featured a drawing of a minstrel singer in blackface with a wide smile; a Hawey & Hazel executive came up with the logo after visiting the United States and seeing Al Jolson perform. The Chinese name on the box translated to “black man toothpaste.”

I'm white, so I have no right to say whether these things are offensive or not to people of color. BUT... Darkie toothpaste!? That's pretty bad! 

Not really. It is not sold in the US.  You can't get all butthurt because a word in another language can be made to mean something different in your language.  I honestly would not have thought about a toothpaste being called "Darkie".  It would never have entered my mind it could or would mean anything.  Just a name.  Guess black people gonna be peed off about people naming their dog "Blackie" now.  One of the most popular names for dogs.

Did you know that in come countries doing the "thumbs up" which people do all the time in the US is considered offensive? So are we suppose to say you can't do that any more because somebody somewhere might be offended up it?  Guess what pretty much everything you do will offend somebody.  If you want to know what it means google it.

What difference does it make where it's sold? It's not a bad "translation", and it doesn't make it less offensive. The original logo is literally a black man and it's called Darkie. There's no ambiguity there and completely different than a thumbs up with different meanings.

It makes a lot of difference where it is sold. Did you even read what I said?  Words mean different things in different languages. No it is not completely different.  The thumbs up is an example of something else that in one country means something good and in another supposedly means something bad.  Just like in spanish the word "negro" means the color black.  That is THEIR WORD for the color black. You can be offended all you want and you can choose to be offended by everything coming and going. I chose not to.  Makes life a whole lot happier. lol

Yes, I read what you said. But "darkie" is not a different language. It's English, and it's generally considered derogatory, along with blackface, whether you agree or not. And even though they've changed the logo and the name to Darlie, the Chinese characters still translate to "black person toothpaste". It's easy to say you're not offended when it's not referring to you.

lol No I am just not a snowflake.  The first question I asked was "is this toothpaste not sold in another country and this name used in another country" where it would mean something totally different.  That was the whole point.  Just like I just said in mexico saying you have a negro car means you have a black car.  That is THEIR word for black - the color black.  But if you say that same thing in the US people will come unglued.  It all depends on who you are "offending". If it is offensive to a Christian they are just suppose to get over it.

As far as "darkie" I have actually never heard that word before.  Especially have not heard it used to describe a person.
If you research it there are a lot of words used in various countries that mean something totally different or even "offensive" in other countries.  I guess we are all going to have to not talk and not have names on products because no matter what it is somewhere somebody will be offended.

It's unlikely that anyone is going to say "negro car", because that's mixing two languages. Yes, negro means black in Spanish. But using negro in reference to a car is NOT the same as using negro in reference to a person. They're not even pronounced the same.

Have you ever seen Gone with the Wind? They call their slaves "darkies". And when you call your product DARKIE and your logo is based on a white man in blackface, it's very obviously in poor taste, at best. How exactly would that mean anything else?

You don't have to be a snowflake, but you don't have to be insensitive and ignorant either.

[Donnamarg323]

What are your thoughts on changing the names of Aunt Jemina, Uncle Ben, and Eskimo Pie?

Don't really care. I used to like Aunt Jemima syrup but it's nothing but corn syrup which is so bad for your health.  I do see the destroying of our history & culture under false pretenses & hyperbolic nonsense as nothing more than moving the world to a more progressive one world order, which has been the plan since Bush the elder was in office. They are playing the long game, like China & their 100 year plan. Nothing is by happenstance & I don't think there is anything to be done to stop it.

It is not corn syrup. Nothing at all like corn syrup.  I use to really like corn syrup but not so much any more.

Nothing will ever go back to how it was in the world. You are right about the One World Order. But that doesn't happen til after the rapture. And no everything happening is Bible prophecy and nothing is going to stop it from happening EXACTLY LIKE the BIBLE SAYS not the way some interpret it to be.  The Bible also says there will be false religions and false prophets.  Matt 7:21 says "not everyone who says to me Lord Lord will enter in to the Kingdom of Heaven" and in Matt 7:23 God will tell them "I never knew you, depart from me - you workers of inequity".

I don't know that it started with Bush.  More like the last president.

Anyway, I am sure the devil will show up and make fun of me and try to correct me. That is okay too. Romans 12:19 God says "vengeance is mine" and He will take care of it in HIS time. The Bible says what it does and it means what it says. Hell is real.  You can deny that all you want but it won't keep you from spending eternity there. I don't argue with people.  Matt 10:14 says if people don't want to listen to "dust off your feet and move on".  We live in an area where the Truth is available.  People can accept it or reject it.  In today's world people are looking for a "feel good religion" where there is no punishment (contrary to the Word of God) and where you can do whatever you want with no consequences.  That's not how it works.

Rapture?LOL!!Trinity?Xmas? Easter?Hell?Man having immortal soul?Read Eccl 9:5..says dead know nothing.If they were in place of torment or heaven i would think they would know that.

Show us in bible where?LOL!!

U dont even state what sect U belong to even tho i know its Babylon the Great.....symbolic for false religeon like U belong to.

Still waiting to see if U know what Gods name is.Psalms 83:18 KJV might help

And i know UR sect isnt in 240 lands teaching & preaching Millions of hrs free....Try Math 24:14 what Jesus said RE kingdom being preached worldwide.Certainly NOT UR unknown sect.

U must get influenced by all these jerks on TV that say a lot and no one has a clue what they are talking about.

Changing subject for a sec RE Trump and Obama.Obama family man married once.Trump Divorced few Xs.Speaks volumes the charactor between them.Enuff said on that.Watch #s rise in Oklahoma on virus from the jerk spouting nonsense the other night infecting 1000s.

[1imaginarygirl]

What are your thoughts on changing the names of Aunt Jemina, Uncle Ben, and Eskimo Pie?

Don't really care. I used to like Aunt Jemima syrup but it's nothing but corn syrup which is so bad for your health.  I do see the destroying of our history & culture under false pretenses & hyperbolic nonsense as nothing more than moving the world to a more progressive one world order, which has been the plan since Bush the elder was in office. They are playing the long game, like China & their 100 year plan. Nothing is by happenstance & I don't think there is anything to be done to stop it.

It is not corn syrup. Nothing at all like corn syrup.

Ingredients: Corn Syrup, High Fructose Corn Syrup, Water, Cellulose Gum, Caramel Color, Salt, Natural And Artificial Flavor, Sodium Benzoate And Sorbic Acid (Preservatives), Sodium Hexametaphosphate.

https://www.auntjemima.com/products/syrups/original

[mardukblood2009]

I think that is the stupid thing that I have heard. All these idiots are making everything way worse. 

[linderlizzie]

I am bringing up this portion of the thread with another casualty of the damning of all historical fiction, statues, icons of different foodstuffs, etc. I have a copy of Gone With The Wind and I just watched it again. It's a great movie and the blacks represented in the movie are representative of people of that society who made the best of their lot. They are noble and honorable. You can't say that about the main character, Scarlett, or her desired lover, Ashley.

Prissy was silly but she was just a characterization of a silly person like they have in lots of movies. Rhett was a scalawag who was looked down upon by society but he still helped them with their cause. He had a great deal of character as did Belle Watling who was treated poorly by the elite. They all denigrated her as "poor white trash" as they did the other "white trash" such as Jonas Wilkerson and Amy Slatterly.

The people of Tara were rich landowners with slaves was not thought wrong at the time. That doesn't make it right but the movie is a depiction of a grand era for the South.

For the time which it represents, a time 'gone with the wind', it is quite very good in my opinion.

For the record, history is pretty important and should not be deleted from our collective memory because some people are offended by it. We can't learn from history if we don't even know what it was. We're doomed to repeat it in any case but at least we'd have a fighting chance to do differently if we knew what we did before and deemed it wrong.

[Drutts0643]

I am bringing up this portion of the thread with another casualty of the damning of all historical fiction, statues, icons of different foodstuffs, etc. I have a copy of Gone With The Wind and I just watched it again. It's a great movie and the blacks represented in the movie are representative of people of that society who made the best of their lot. They are noble and honorable. You can't say that about the main character, Scarlett, or her desired lover, Ashley.

Prissy was silly but she was just a characterization of a silly person like they have in lots of movies. Rhett was a scalawag who was looked down upon by society but he still helped them with their cause. He had a great deal of character as did Belle Watling who was treated poorly by the elite. They all denigrated her as "poor white trash" as they did the other "white trash" such as Jonas Wilkerson and Amy Slatterly.

The people of Tara were rich landowners with slaves was not thought wrong at the time. That doesn't make it right but the movie is a depiction of a grand era for the South.

For the time which it represents, a time 'gone with the wind', it is quite very good in my opinion.

For the record, history is pretty important and should not be deleted from our collective memory because some people are offended by it. We can't learn from history if we don't even know what it was. We're doomed to repeat it in any case but at least we'd have a fighting chance to do differently if we knew what we did before and deemed it wrong.

Precisely why God wrote the bible in ways.The history of certain situations how he protected and saved his people and that HE will continue to do so.

Examples to strenghen our faith as we read them.And how he punished those that disobeyed even when he gave them ample warnings.That is going on today,a warning how he will deal with Satan and a wicked human society and what we should do.

Jesus said he that endures to the end will be saved and all that call on the Gods name will also.

[Kimdud22]

I think it is crazy and I do not see anything bad about it.

[countrygirl12]

Colgate-Palmolive Co. said Thursday it is working with its Chinese partner, Hawley & Hazel Chemical Co., on changes to its Darkie brand toothpaste.

The toothpaste, which is popular in Asia, was called Darkie when it was first introduced in the 1930s. Packages featured a drawing of a minstrel singer in blackface with a wide smile; a Hawey & Hazel executive came up with the logo after visiting the United States and seeing Al Jolson perform. The Chinese name on the box translated to “black man toothpaste.”

I'm white, so I have no right to say whether these things are offensive or not to people of color. BUT... Darkie toothpaste!? That's pretty bad! 

Not really. It is not sold in the US.  You can't get all butthurt because a word in another language can be made to mean something different in your language.  I honestly would not have thought about a toothpaste being called "Darkie".  It would never have entered my mind it could or would mean anything.  Just a name.  Guess black people gonna be peed off about people naming their dog "Blackie" now.  One of the most popular names for dogs.

Did you know that in come countries doing the "thumbs up" which people do all the time in the US is considered offensive? So are we suppose to say you can't do that any more because somebody somewhere might be offended up it?  Guess what pretty much everything you do will offend somebody.  If you want to know what it means google it.

What difference does it make where it's sold? It's not a bad "translation", and it doesn't make it less offensive. The original logo is literally a black man and it's called Darkie. There's no ambiguity there and completely different than a thumbs up with different meanings.

It makes a lot of difference where it is sold. Did you even read what I said?  Words mean different things in different languages. No it is not completely different.  The thumbs up is an example of something else that in one country means something good and in another supposedly means something bad.  Just like in spanish the word "negro" means the color black.  That is THEIR WORD for the color black. You can be offended all you want and you can choose to be offended by everything coming and going. I chose not to.  Makes life a whole lot happier. lol

Yes, I read what you said. But "darkie" is not a different language. It's English, and it's generally considered derogatory, along with blackface, whether you agree or not. And even though they've changed the logo and the name to Darlie, the Chinese characters still translate to "black person toothpaste". It's easy to say you're not offended when it's not referring to you.

lol No I am just not a snowflake.  The first question I asked was "is this toothpaste not sold in another country and this name used in another country" where it would mean something totally different.  That was the whole point.  Just like I just said in mexico saying you have a negro car means you have a black car.  That is THEIR word for black - the color black.  But if you say that same thing in the US people will come unglued.  It all depends on who you are "offending". If it is offensive to a Christian they are just suppose to get over it.

As far as "darkie" I have actually never heard that word before.  Especially have not heard it used to describe a person.
If you research it there are a lot of words used in various countries that mean something totally different or even "offensive" in other countries.  I guess we are all going to have to not talk and not have names on products because no matter what it is somewhere somebody will be offended.

It's unlikely that anyone is going to say "negro car", because that's mixing two languages. Yes, negro means black in Spanish. But using negro in reference to a car is NOT the same as using negro in reference to a person. They're not even pronounced the same.

Have you ever seen Gone with the Wind? They call their slaves "darkies". And when you call your product DARKIE and your logo is based on a white man in blackface, it's very obviously in poor taste, at best. How exactly would that mean anything else?

You don't have to be a snowflake, but you don't have to be insensitive and ignorant either.

  Obviously you have not been around too many people from Mexico.  I know a guy that is from Mexico and he mixes the two languages all the time.   And no I do not think I have ever seen Gone with the Wind.  You still did not answer my question. You ignore where I said what I read I thought this product was sold in another country.  Which goes back to words mean different things in different languages and different countries.   Be offended.  That is fine.  I honestly do not care what people call their products.  Like I said, it does not matter what you do, say, wear, or name your company, post on social media, have on a sign in your yard or in front of your business - somewhere, some person will be offended. 

[countrygirl12]

LOL I see the devil identified himself.

[Donnamarg323]

LOL I see the devil identified himself.

This is quite hilarious with CG.

With FC members she will put their quotes up even if they R 900000 pages long.


She is soooooo paranoid of us she talks around it to get our attn and not quote us.

Most here My dear know UR the true offspring of a viper.NO one has to go very far to see how u constantly *iss others off.

[1imaginarygirl]

  Obviously you have not been around too many people from Mexico.  I know a guy that is from Mexico and he mixes the two languages all the time.   And no I do not think I have ever seen Gone with the Wind.  You still did not answer my question. You ignore where I said what I read I thought this product was sold in another country.  Which goes back to words mean different things in different languages and different countries.

Yes, I live around and work with Mexican people. That's why I learned Spanish. What was your question that I didn't answer? The toothpaste is called Darkie (a well-known reference to a dark-skinned person), the logo is a blackfaced man, and the Chinese characters translate to "black person toothpaste". What else could these three things together be interpreted as? I do not see this as meaning anything else than what it is. Especially, when there's already a documented history on its origin.

Be offended.  That is fine.  I honestly do not care what people call their products.

This is why racism still exists. Because people "don't care".