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Re: MY anniversary
« Reply #75 on: May 28, 2020, 07:27:05 pm »
So you're not gonna address your bizarre statements? Not surprising.

At least answer this- what did Jesus use to put these "new holes" into His hands & feet? And did He get help? Kinda hard to pierce your own hands & feet! lol

Remember hitch, if it seems like I'm mocking the JWs, it's because you leave me no choice with the truly abhorrent mistreatment you throw at Jesus Christ. If you kept your bible illiteracy to yourself, you'd have saved your sect all this public ridicule.
So u scroll its a waste to speak bible with us then u still ask questions for debate?

You think cos you and most of the world mock JWs that means something?Still cant figure it out eh?

Im sure Noah was mocked too.Only 8 survived flood.Tsk tsk.So many more exampless.But ill show im a good guy and still answer the Thomas question.

You see Jesus wasnt recognized even by Thomas.Thomas wanted to see piercings right?Prompted Jesus to say words RE sight.

Also why do u think God never let Moses body be found?

Also bible says God resurrected Jesus in the spirit after his death.You even think Jesus resurrected himself..LOL!!

Examples in bible where angels put on spirit bodies as in Gabriel or angels with Abraham.

Hope u appreciate i was at least trying to be nice.

Again im sure if Jesus could raise the dead,walk on water etc,putting a few holes in his fleshly body to please Thomas was a piece of cake.


The JWs are mocked for good reason. The scripture is crystal clear, staring you right in the face and yet you let the Watchtower twist God's word into a pretzel.

You seem to have such difficulty with the fact that the Disciple 'didn't recognise' Jesus, but again, the explanation is so simple- too simple in fact, so that you need some preposterous explanation.

Nowhere in the Gospels does it say the Apostles "Didn't recognise" Jesus. In Luke, the Disciples fear He's a ghost, and He proves otherwise. Likewise, in John. Obviously they lived with Him and recognised Him immediately. So this in no way proves the magical "new body" Russell dreamed up. There is no evidence to the contrary that this was indeed Jesus body born in flesh.

The two times people 'didn't recognise' Him in the bible post resurrection were Mary Magdalene  & the two walking from Emmaus. The first, I've explained countless times. Mary was weeping, Jesus comes up behind her, in the morning sun through tearful eyes she didn't recognise Him at first. No need to dream up a fairy tale explanation.

The two walking were not as close to Jesus as the Twelve. God used this fact to keep them from recognising Him easily. Again, a simple explanation like that should suffice for you, instead of undoing 2 millenniums of theology that prove Christ as the triune God.

As for Thomas, your Watchtower explanation makes no sense at all. Follow me with this.

The Disciples tell Thomas Jesus was raised to life

Thomas says he can't believe it....unless he sees the marks of the nails- Jesus wounds.

Why would he say that?

Because it would be the only proof that could be believed. Otherwise, if it happened as the Watchtower says, ANYONE could've walked through the door claiming to be Jesus.

So despite his reputation as "Doubting Thomas", Thomas was pretty smart. He knew the only way to prove Jesus was raised was to see the marks of the nails in His own body that He gave up to be crucified in.

But watch out! Here comes the Watchtower telling you that Jesus didn't want to prove to Thomas that He beat death & the grave by showing He was raised in the body He died to. He wanted to be a trickster! He didn't prove Himself the Lord over Life & Death! He manufactured a new body- complete with death wounds in order to trick Thomas into believing it was the same body that he sought proof of!

How sick is this teaching? How can you not call the Watchtower the spawn of Satan for fabricating this blasphemous garbage?

You are the one calling Jesus a liar. HE said He would raise Himself from the dead.

For the 4 billionth time (and watch it's significance blow right by you for the 4 billionth time-) John 2:18-22
 The Jews then responded to him, “What sign can you show us to prove your authority to do all this?”

 Jesus answered them, “Destroy this temple, and I will raise it again in three days.”

 They replied, “It has taken forty-six years to build this temple, and you are going to raise it in three days?” But the temple he had spoken of was his body.

 After he was raised from the dead, his disciples recalled what he had said. Then they believed the scripture and the words that Jesus had spoken.

The Disciples understood Him in this. Why can't you?

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Re: MY anniversary
« Reply #76 on: May 28, 2020, 07:31:55 pm »
You were dumb enuff to admit u sent in 47 reports to FC 6 months ago.

Your brain finally came back to earth and u realized what a jerk you are and now you are hush hush re the #.

47 was enuff to realize what a dope u were.I am sure its much higher cos ur prayer wasnt answered by YOUR god incarnate.LOL!

Ego maniac. LOL

Everyone is put on this earth by God for a purpose. Even if -as in hitch's case- to show a bad example!
This takes the cake what u say here.

The bible says God Doesnt try anyone with evil.Whatever happened to freedom of choice?

GEEEEEESHHHHHH!!

I suppose you think God was responsible for rebellion in Eden?You might cos u think death goes to life and the bible doesnt support that.Sometimes i really wonder what the hec U think UR reading.

For Scripture says to Pharaoh: “I raised you up for this very purpose, that I might display my power in you and that my name might be proclaimed in all the earth.” Therefore God has mercy on whom he wants to have mercy, and he hardens whom he wants to harden. Romans 9:17-18


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Re: MY anniversary
« Reply #77 on: May 28, 2020, 08:35:22 pm »
JJ do me a favor and ask the following when u get to heaven...


If Jesus is God?
If God is a puppeteer?
If Jesus resurrection in same fleshly body?
If 12/25 Jesus BD?
If man has an immortal soul?
If firery hell exists?

If u dont make it to heaven,maybe before Armagheddon comes u still might find out truth.

O and ask for CG if the Rapture exists,or did she mean her rap-sheet?

If Jesus is God, as some churches teach, who resurrected Jesus?
Jesus is not God​—whose name is Jehovah—​but he is the Son of God. Jehovah resurrected Jesus from the dead. (Romans 10:9) One Bible scholar comments: “It is unthinkable that anyone​—even Christ—​could raise himself.” *

Now get ur 30 posts and ban yourself for another month.

LOL truly funny.You send in a zillion posts to ban us,and ur gone 5 weeks with very little forum...LOL!!!
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Re: MY anniversary
« Reply #78 on: May 28, 2020, 09:09:05 pm »
https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1973406

God NOT Jesus raised Jesus

Your line the apostles understood him truly a joke when link proves by a few scriptures in bible they knew God resurrected him.

Im serious.Leave us alone.UR a waste of a waste in more then 1 way.A defeated individual who is a glutton to lose and lose.Its more then just the bible with you.You showed ur true colors the past yr.Stay off FC.
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Re: MY anniversary
« Reply #79 on: May 28, 2020, 10:07:55 pm »
Jesus was mocked with good reason according to his enemies too.

I remind u 8 survived the flood and the road is broad and spacious to destruction and the apostles were killed,jailed and beaten.

Proves only more Satan rules this world that u cant discern.

You are more worried you didnt wanna speak German or if Trump is gonna MAGA!!LOL!

Wait a few days to answer me.You have ur 30 posts for May.This way u get a head start for June and then say ur on vacation after.We all know ur interest for FC has cooled off cos they didnt burp you with Hitch dilemma a yr ago.

Some good advice.Chew on a few Tums.I know ur stomach is churning.I think ull be here for awhile.That layoff built up quite a bit of acid i can tell.

We dont lose either way if ur here or gone.....cos we R here!!!

Maybe u can even make up with CG cos u both have us as a common denominator.SEE i even stick up for u.While she think a zillion posts R us cos of her paranoia,i said even JJ knows the difference who we are.
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Re: MY anniversary
« Reply #80 on: May 29, 2020, 06:28:59 am »
So Pharoah said,who is Jesus i should let his people go?LOL!!

Also,dont u think Jehovah saw EXACTLY what was in Pharoahs heart?That he was above all  else and allowed him to carry out his sin?

David committed a terrible sin and was punished for it.But God saw he was truly sorry and forgave him.

Jehovah isnt a puppeteer.

Jehovah will be the one to decide where ur ignorance comes from.His justice saw Paul meant well and after he humbled him his true zeal for the truth came front and center.He will judge what is really in your heart and all of us.
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« Reply #81 on: May 29, 2020, 09:26:04 am »
You seem to be checking in forum a lot quicker since we ALL paid you a little attn.

The bible witness from us works well with you as we have reminded you how God used his enemies to fulfil his purpose.

The rest of it is gravy being entertained by us by your foolishness.

You're delusional as ever, hitch. I kinda need to make these 30 posts, so after I feel satisfied in that endeavor I'll be off again.

Good to know you're still stalking me as much as ever.

 Denying Christ's divinity makes you the enemy of God.

 I say this because many deceivers, who do not acknowledge Jesus Christ as coming in the flesh, have gone out into the world. Any such person is the deceiver and the antichrist.  Watch out that you do not lose what we have worked for, but that you may be rewarded fully.  Anyone who runs ahead and does not continue in the teaching of Christ does not have God; whoever continues in the teaching has both the Father and the Son. If anyone comes to you and does not bring this teaching, do not take them into your house or welcome them. Anyone who welcomes them shares in their wicked work. 2Jn 7-11
Ha!!!

Plus u need the 3 bucks.We dont more then proven.

Your sect preaches the world and JWs dont.LOL!!!

I hope other parts of ur life arent as dellusional otherwise you will be one lonely person.

Well, I'm certainly not here for your company I can tell you that! lol

"Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world."

I'm not the guy with half a dozen sock puppet accounts to keep myself amused on a slowly deteriorating platform that I don't even use! Don't worry about me. lol
And in another post JJ writes,Im in FC till the end.LOL!!

I could only take members word the site isnt as good as it used to be.I still see many miss it when it goes down tho.

In the case of JJ as i said in another post,he has lost interest cos of FC deaf on the zillion of posts he wrote to FC NOT going his way cos of Hitch.So he thinks he is punishing them not trying to earn as much.LOL!

He is actually doing FC a favor and the members not putting up his debating rubbish for us to see.

FRET none FC members.We will free U all from CG too as we have done so with JJ.
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Re: MY anniversary
« Reply #82 on: May 29, 2020, 10:33:56 am »
What is with all the weird jehovah's witness drama on this website?
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« Reply #83 on: May 29, 2020, 10:42:39 am »
What is with all the weird jehovah's witness drama on this website?

hitch is an unhinged JW who was banned from the site by FC for his disruptive and aggressive posting against people who disagrees with his warped JW theology.

He's returned several times under several different aliases (Drutts, DonnaMarg etc) FC gave me assurances that they would deal with him (presumably through a lawsuit) though they seem to have adopted radio silence over the past few months, prompting hitch to declare 'victory' and claim the FC Message Board for the Watchtower.   

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« Reply #84 on: May 29, 2020, 10:52:26 am »
https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1973406

God NOT Jesus raised Jesus

Your line the apostles understood him truly a joke when link proves by a few scriptures in bible they knew God resurrected him.

Im serious.Leave us alone.UR a waste of a waste in more then 1 way.A defeated individual who is a glutton to lose and lose.Its more then just the bible with you.You showed ur true colors the past yr.Stay off FC.
https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1973406

God NOT Jesus raised Jesus

Your line the apostles understood him truly a joke when link proves by a few scriptures in bible they knew God resurrected him.

Im serious.Leave us alone.UR a waste of a waste in more then 1 way.A defeated individual who is a glutton to lose and lose.Its more then just the bible with you.You showed ur true colors the past yr.Stay off FC.

I already refuted this using your own Watchtower tract, but if you want another public spanking, papa will be happy to provide. lol

In the tract they reference Peter saying “God raised this One up on the third day.” (Acts 10:40) &  Paul saying  “If, now, the spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwells in you, he that raised up Christ Jesus from the dead will also make your mortal bodies alive through his spirit that resides in you.” (Rom. 8:11)  Couple that with the verse I already quoted from John 2 Jesus answered them, “Destroy this temple, and I will raise it again in three days.” and you have a picture of the Triune God in action. Father, Son & Holy Ghost ALL working in union to raise Christ from the dead! The scriptures cannot be any clearer- and this is all taken from your Watchtower tract- it PROVES the Trinity right there! lol!

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Re: MY anniversary
« Reply #85 on: May 29, 2020, 10:56:17 am »
So Pharoah said,who is Jesus i should let his people go?LOL!!

Also,dont u think Jehovah saw EXACTLY what was in Pharoahs heart?That he was above all  else and allowed him to carry out his sin?

David committed a terrible sin and was punished for it.But God saw he was truly sorry and forgave him.

Jehovah isnt a puppeteer.

Jehovah will be the one to decide where ur ignorance comes from.His justice saw Paul meant well and after he humbled him his true zeal for the truth came front and center.He will judge what is really in your heart and all of us.

The point is not that Pharaoh didn't have free will, quite the opposite. God knew what kind of person he was and used that to shame him before everyone.

Kinda the same way God is using you to motivate me to shame the Watchtower's blasphemous teaching every chance I get for the glory of God the Father. 

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« Reply #86 on: May 29, 2020, 11:23:50 am »
JJ do me a favor and ask the following when u get to heaven...


If Jesus is God?
If God is a puppeteer?
If Jesus resurrection in same fleshly body?
If 12/25 Jesus BD?
If man has an immortal soul?
If firery hell exists?

If u dont make it to heaven,maybe before Armagheddon comes u still might find out truth.

O and ask for CG if the Rapture exists,or did she mean her rap-sheet?

If Jesus is God, as some churches teach, who resurrected Jesus?
Jesus is not God​—whose name is Jehovah—​but he is the Son of God. Jehovah resurrected Jesus from the dead. (Romans 10:9) One Bible scholar comments: “It is unthinkable that anyone​—even Christ—​could raise himself.” *

Now get ur 30 posts and ban yourself for another month.

LOL truly funny.You send in a zillion posts to ban us,and ur gone 5 weeks with very little forum...LOL!!!

I honestly don't need to ask any questions when I get to heaven, since I actually READ the bible free from the Watchtower's Blasphemy. The answers are all there for you to read, hitch. It's no secret.

 The only questions I have are for YOU.

Why was Jesus sent by God to die a horrible death, if He was not atoning for our sins?

Why did Christ accept Thomas worship if He were not equal with God the Father?

Why would Christ fabricate a new body complete with death wounds in order to trick Thomas into believing He was raised?

I've posed these multiple times now, and have yet to receive a competent explanation on ANY of them.

Here's a new question you won't be able to answer, just to keep things fresh- and I'll do it using your own corrupt Watchtower translation:


In Isaiah 40:10 it says Look! The Sovereign Lord Jehovah himself will come even as a strong one, and his arm will be ruling for him. Look! His reward is with him, and the wage he pays is before him

But in Matt 16:27, Jesus says
For the Son of man is destined to come in the glory of his Father with his angels, and then he will recompense each one according to his behavior.

Who is going to Judge the Earth? Jesus or Jehovah? Jesus is sounding an awful lot like Jehovah in Matt 16:27! And we know from John 5:22 it says "For the Father judges no one at all, but he has committed all the judging to the Son,"

So how can Jehovah fulfill Isaiah's prophecy that "His reward is with him, and the wage he pays is before him" if God leaves all judgement to the Son?

Ponder that one for a while.....
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« Reply #87 on: May 29, 2020, 12:29:41 pm »
Ill answer the last one for u cos all the other im tired of dealing with.

Yes Jehovah has made Jesus king of his kingdom and to judge mankind.After the 1000 yr rein of Jesus ruling the earth from heaven mankind is brought back to perfection as A&E were.Satan is abyssed with his angels.The earth is turned into a paradise.The dead are resurrected.After 1000 yrs Satan is loosed and he brings many down again and then he and disobedient mankind are gone and Jesus turns the kingdom over to Jehovah.

You can find these answers on JW.org and thru book of Revelation.

You arent going to heaven.I doubt ur 1 of 144000.Plus the bible says the righteous will inherit the earth and the earth lasts forever and God created it to be inhabited.Your way of thinking is implying God created man to die and go to heaven or hell.People wouldnt be on the earth anymore!!!Goes against all the other scriptures.

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« Reply #88 on: May 29, 2020, 12:37:32 pm »
What is with all the weird jehovah's witness drama on this website?
Unfairly banned and JJ after sending in 100s of reports to FC cos Hitchs support staff has come to support him.Countrygirl has also sent in many reports to FC and she might be the member who *isses more members off on here then anyone.

Some cant deal with Hitch supporters cos they come thru and clear what RATS and liars are with some members.If UR so interested do your homework and back-log a yr or so ago.

The fact u use JWs drama has made us draw  our conclusion why u ask.But i will be fair and ask U why?Im sure if u dont explain U really werent that interested to begin with and dwanted to get a post towards ur 30.

Thank you.
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« Reply #89 on: May 29, 2020, 03:09:33 pm »
Why do you think the JWs celebrate Jesus Memorial every yr?Not only was it a command but the greatest act of love ever.He proved Satan a liar after what Satan said in Eden and Job.Plus it took a perfect life to balance the one Adam threw away.Jesus proved under more severe conditions Adam could have obeyed and God was just in asking for love and obedience.

Whatever Jesus did he always gave his father credit for it.Why is it so hard for a son to do his fathers work and be just like him causing Jesus to say if u have seen me u have seen my father.So much alike in wisdom,justice and love.But Jesus wasnt always....Jehovah is.Jesus died...Jehovah is everlasting.Jesus was born twice.1st born of all creation.The Word was WITH God.His master-worker.Let US make man shows 2 were there.

Over the yrs these points have been made many times......and u still dont get it.Seriously im tired.U know how to navigate JW.org so get your answers there.You just have to be a debating dimwit.Refuting others that support JWs gives u a high.But yet you always comeback and have questions.Is it because u really wanna know or to get ur jollies off refuting?

If this was just 1 on 1 with u i wouldnt waste my time.But as ive said others read this too and I KNOW Hitch had his support here.

Now take a vacation.
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