12 Days of Christmas

[JediJohnnie]

It really is EZ to see the so called "wise men"were NOT too wise.

Even Herods men were able to discern from the OT Jesus was to be in Bethlehem.They followed a star that took them to Jerusalem and found out thru Herods men Jesus was in Bethlehem.Satans plot unfolding as the star then moved right over JM&J.If they were soooooooo wise,it didnt show it eh?

Yes the astrologers finally wised up.They heeded Gods angel what Herods plot was to NOT go back to tell him where Jesus was.Sadly who knows the actual murder account of all the 2 yr old boys from the frustrated King Herod after the astrologers didnt return to him.The world depicts the nativity scene as a happy occasion when it really is a murderous one showing you all the more how blinded many are from Satan.Math 2nd chapter references it all.

A lot of this isnt hard to figure out.It just shows even when truth is presented logically how blinded many are thru Satans schemes.

How blind is the world?Think about it.You show the truth what is in Gods word and they support what isnt in it.LOL!!Such as the trinity,the drummer boy,grandma getting run over by a reindeer...need i go on?

Noah preached to an ungodly wicked world what God was gonna do.Only 8 survived the flood.Is it any different today?Jesus likened today just as the days of Noah.

Oh for the luv of....

How many times did I answer this-in this thread alone???

The Wise Men did not have the Holy Scripture- thus why they went to Jerusalem, the Hebrew Capitol, to find Him.

There is no scriptural evidence of the star guiding them to Jerusalem, otherwise provide it.

 They were not Astrologers they were Astronomers. Yes, there is a difference. They studied the stars, not reading tea leaves. That's how they knew there was a new star to begin with.

If these guys were so horrible, why would

A) God speak to them instead of striking them dead

and

 B) Why did they end up listening to God in the first place? 

Your theories make no sense.

There is nothing 'murderous' in the Nativity scene. There is the biblical deception of Jesus in the manger, surrounded by Mary & Joseph and all who came to worship Him.

Worship you JWs deny Him. (Which is probably the real reason for your distaste of the scene)

I proved the Trinity using scriptures YOUR VERY OWN JW TRACT used! You still can't weasel out of that!

[Drutts0643]

It really is EZ to see the so called "wise men"were NOT too wise.

Even Herods men were able to discern from the OT Jesus was to be in Bethlehem.They followed a star that took them to Jerusalem and found out thru Herods men Jesus was in Bethlehem.Satans plot unfolding as the star then moved right over JM&J.If they were soooooooo wise,it didnt show it eh?

Yes the astrologers finally wised up.They heeded Gods angel what Herods plot was to NOT go back to tell him where Jesus was.Sadly who knows the actual murder account of all the 2 yr old boys from the frustrated King Herod after the astrologers didnt return to him.The world depicts the nativity scene as a happy occasion when it really is a murderous one showing you all the more how blinded many are from Satan.Math 2nd chapter references it all.

A lot of this isnt hard to figure out.It just shows even when truth is presented logically how blinded many are thru Satans schemes.

How blind is the world?Think about it.You show the truth what is in Gods word and they support what isnt in it.LOL!!Such as the trinity,the drummer boy,grandma getting run over by a reindeer...need i go on?

Noah preached to an ungodly wicked world what God was gonna do.Only 8 survived the flood.Is it any different today?Jesus likened today just as the days of Noah.

Oh for the luv of....

How many times did I answer this-in this thread alone???

The Wise Men did not have the Holy Scripture- thus why they went to Jerusalem, the Hebrew Capitol, to find Him.

There is no scriptural evidence of the star guiding them to Jerusalem, otherwise provide it.

 They were not Astrologers they were Astronomers. Yes, there is a difference. They studied the stars, not reading tea leaves. That's how they knew there was a new star to begin with.

If these guys were so horrible, why would

A) God speak to them instead of striking them dead

and

 B) Why did they end up listening to God in the first place? 

Your theories make no sense.

There is nothing 'murderous' in the Nativity scene. There is the biblical deception of Jesus in the manger, surrounded by Mary & Joseph and all who came to worship Him.

Worship you JWs deny Him. (Which is probably the real reason for your distaste of the scene)

I proved the Trinity using scriptures YOUR VERY OWN JW TRACT used! You still can't weasel out of that!

For the same reason why Jehovah hasnt stricken you dead yet.

Refer to what God told Pharoah

Rom 9:17 New International Version
For Scripture says to Pharaoh: "I raised you up for this very purpose, that I might display my power in you and that my name might be proclaimed in all the earth."

[gaylasue]

I, too, believe in the Holy Trinity ~ God, the Lord Jesus and the Holy Spirit.  God will not have mercy on anyone who does not accept His only begotten Son as an equal part of the Holy Trinity.

[JediJohnnie]

It really is EZ to see the so called "wise men"were NOT too wise.

Even Herods men were able to discern from the OT Jesus was to be in Bethlehem.They followed a star that took them to Jerusalem and found out thru Herods men Jesus was in Bethlehem.Satans plot unfolding as the star then moved right over JM&J.If they were soooooooo wise,it didnt show it eh?

Yes the astrologers finally wised up.They heeded Gods angel what Herods plot was to NOT go back to tell him where Jesus was.Sadly who knows the actual murder account of all the 2 yr old boys from the frustrated King Herod after the astrologers didnt return to him.The world depicts the nativity scene as a happy occasion when it really is a murderous one showing you all the more how blinded many are from Satan.Math 2nd chapter references it all.

A lot of this isnt hard to figure out.It just shows even when truth is presented logically how blinded many are thru Satans schemes.

How blind is the world?Think about it.You show the truth what is in Gods word and they support what isnt in it.LOL!!Such as the trinity,the drummer boy,grandma getting run over by a reindeer...need i go on?

Noah preached to an ungodly wicked world what God was gonna do.Only 8 survived the flood.Is it any different today?Jesus likened today just as the days of Noah.

Oh for the luv of....

How many times did I answer this-in this thread alone???

The Wise Men did not have the Holy Scripture- thus why they went to Jerusalem, the Hebrew Capitol, to find Him.

There is no scriptural evidence of the star guiding them to Jerusalem, otherwise provide it.

 They were not Astrologers they were Astronomers. Yes, there is a difference. They studied the stars, not reading tea leaves. That's how they knew there was a new star to begin with.

If these guys were so horrible, why would

A) God speak to them instead of striking them dead

and

 B) Why did they end up listening to God in the first place? 

Your theories make no sense.

There is nothing 'murderous' in the Nativity scene. There is the biblical deception of Jesus in the manger, surrounded by Mary & Joseph and all who came to worship Him.

Worship you JWs deny Him. (Which is probably the real reason for your distaste of the scene)

I proved the Trinity using scriptures YOUR VERY OWN JW TRACT used! You still can't weasel out of that!

For the same reason why Jehovah hasnt stricken you dead yet.

Refer to what God told Pharoah

Rom 9:17 New International Version
For Scripture says to Pharaoh: "I raised you up for this very purpose, that I might display my power in you and that my name might be proclaimed in all the earth."

Again you ignore every point made and cherry-pick one to make a wise crack.

'Float like a butterfly, sting like a butterfly'  should be your motto. lol

Comparing Pharaoh to the wise men doesn't help your case. It doesn't prove them 'evil' like Pharaoh. They listened to God. The came to find Jesus to WORSHIP the son of God.

[JediJohnnie]

I, too, believe in the Holy Trinity ~ God, the Lord Jesus and the Holy Spirit.  God will not have mercy on anyone who does not accept His only begotten Son as an equal part of the Holy Trinity.

Amen

[Drutts0643]

I, too, believe in the Holy Trinity ~ God, the Lord Jesus and the Holy Spirit.  God will not have mercy on anyone who does not accept His only begotten Son as an equal part of the Holy Trinity.

https://www.jw.org/en/bible-teachings/questions/trinity/

[ancmetro]

    It is different where I live. We do the "twelve days of fitness"
at the local gym with many specials. Yes, we celebrate Christmas...
just in a different way.

[UGetPaid]

Does anybody want to step forward and state for the record that they don't believe hitch, Drutts, DonnaMarg are not one in the same? Just curious.

Hey Donna and hitch,do u believe Jedi thinks the 2 of you and myself are all the same person?

Well we shouldnt be surprised.If someone that foolsih supports the trinity theory he is apt to think anything i guess.

I'm not looking to enter an argument I don't belong in, but Drutts has already admitted, whether by accident or intentionally that Drutts and Hitch are the same individual.  But could it be that, along with Donna, they are just individual parts of a different kind of trinity?

[Donnamarg323]

I guess thats possible Uget.If people are foolish enuff to think god is a trinity,lets go for it!!

And I am NOT implying that to the TRUE God whos name is Jehovah.

And we arent arguing.We are entertaining in various ways.

[UGetPaid]

I guess thats possible Uget.If people are foolish enuff to think god is a trinity,lets go for it!!

Then lump me in with the fools!   

[Donnamarg323]

I guess thats possible Uget.If people are foolish enuff to think god is a trinity,lets go for it!!

Then lump me in with the fools!   

At least you didnt choke this time. 

[Drutts0643]

I guess thats possible Uget.If people are foolish enuff to think god is a trinity,lets go for it!!

Then lump me in with the fools!   

At least you didnt choke this time. 

We meant also to ask you.You asked about 1914 in the bible.We sent you the link.You had no comment that told me you didnt read it or agree.NO problem.Lemme turn it around now.

Where is trinity in the bible?Im sure you have seen many of the JW.org links re it we have put up.

Now its your turn to show us.

Im sure this will draw JJ in <i wish it wouldnt>......im speaking to u Uget.

If you need proof from the bible the trinity is false or Jesus is God we are happy to show u AGAIN!!

I realize you said you are happy to be locked in with the fools and i apologize if im asking u to leave ur comfort zone.

[king4cash]

Happy new year to one and all on the FC network...........

[UGetPaid]

We meant also to ask you.You asked about 1914 in the bible.We sent you the link.You had no comment that told me you didnt read it or agree.NO problem.Lemme turn it around now.

Where is trinity in the bible?Im sure you have seen many of the JW.org links re it we have put up.

Now its your turn to show us.

Among others...


1 John 5:7 - For there are Three who give testimony in heaven: the Father, the Word [Jesus/Son], and the Holy Spirit. And these Three are One.

Matthew 28:19-20 - Therefore, go forth and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, teaching them to observe all that I have ever commanded you. And behold, I am with you always, even to the consummation of the age.

Acts 20:28 - Take care of yourselves and of the entire flock, over which the Holy Spirit has stationed you as Bishops to rule the Church of God, which he has purchased by his own blood.


As for the 1914 reference, yes I did read your jw.org explanation, but I did not find it tremendously convincing since it makes generalized assumptions as to very specific dates (much like the numerous predictions by various religions of the exact date and hour of the armageddon - all of which came and went without incident). Rather than get into a debate over it, which I know you are steadfast in your position and can respect that - I decided to not press the issue.

[Donnamarg323]

We meant also to ask you.You asked about 1914 in the bible.We sent you the link.You had no comment that told me you didnt read it or agree.NO problem.Lemme turn it around now.

Where is trinity in the bible?Im sure you have seen many of the JW.org links re it we have put up.

Now its your turn to show us.

Among others...


1 John 5:7 - For there are Three who give testimony in heaven: the Father, the Word [Jesus/Son], and the Holy Spirit. And these Three are One.

Matthew 28:19-20 - Therefore, go forth and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, teaching them to observe all that I have ever commanded you. And behold, I am with you always, even to the consummation of the age.

Acts 20:28 - Take care of yourselves and of the entire flock, over which the Holy Spirit has stationed you as Bishops to rule the Church of God, which he has purchased by his own blood.


As for the 1914 reference, yes I did read your jw.org explanation, but I did not find it tremendously convincing since it makes generalized assumptions as to very specific dates (much like the numerous predictions by various religions of the exact date and hour of the armageddon - all of which came and went without incident). Rather than get into a debate over it, which I know you are steadfast in your position and can respect that - I decided to not press the issue.

We thank you for your reply.https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1975209

We would like to ask you and others something else.

It seems you all think at death we go to heaven or hell,so going by that i guess the earth is going to be desolated?

There are scriptures that say the  meek and the righteous will reside forver on earth anddd God created it to be inhabited.

JW.org does teach 144000 go to heaven to rule with Jesus and the  greater flock live on earth transformed to paradise as was original purpose with A&E.

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