Do You Stay in (or at Least Close to) Your Country?

[UGetPaid]

Well most people will lie about drug use and sexual activity.  They do testing on the blood or are suppose to.  But when it is for emergency use it would be hard to get the results back because doesn't it take like 3 months for the AIDS test?

No, it is quicker than that. I donate blood about every 8 weeks or so and the Red Cross app will notify you as your donation passes through the various stages: (1) donation "you've donated" (2) processing "your donation is being processed" (3) testing "your donation has been tested" (4) storage "your donation is ready to help save lives" (5) completion [they tell you what medical facility and city your blood ended up at].  I don't know the exact timeline, but my last donation has been at the fifth stage for a least a few weeks now. I had it drawn on November 9th and I have another scheduled for this coming Monday.  So we are probably talking 3-5 weeks tops for the testing.


Even in an emergency situation, I don't think they typically can use fresh donated blood that hasn't been fully tested. When they talk about a blood shortage when natural disasters strike I think (could be wrong here) they are talking more about forecast. They will be using much more of the fully processed and tested units than typical so supplies are gong to be more depleted and they need more volunteer donations to bring supply levels back up to where they need to be for normal need levels.  (That's all just assumption on my part and I may be way off base).

[vickysue]

I gave blood quite often. But when I to Mexico for a vacation , and wanted to give blood they told me I had to wait a year. Something about  some illness  take longer to manifest in  your system.  But after a year they took it, no problem. But  here a few years  I was in a hospital that  several people came down with Hep C.  I never came down with it. But  still can not  give blood. Even though it has been 10 years. I am still being tested for it. It seems to me I should be able to by now but they won't.

[hitch0403]

1 of a few scriptures in bible......

Acts 15:20. “Abstain . . . from blood.” God gave Christians the same command that he had given to Noah. History shows that early Christians refused to consume whole blood or even to use it for medical reasons.

I know that your opinion will likely differ  but I think most would agree that there is more than one way to interpret that 'commandment'.


I interpret it to mean we should refrain from ingesting blood - as in eating it for nourishment.  A transfusion for a life saving medical procedure is quite different (in my opinion).


As for the early Christians' refusal to use blood for medical reasons, I think we can safely say that the medical knowledge of early Christians (and the knowledge of how blood works, its biological purposes, and how to properly and safely use blood for medical purposes) and the medical knowledge of 21st Century doctors (who routinely save lives through the use of donated blood) are quite different.

Its not my opinion...its Gods command.Abstain meaning to not take a part in.There are at least 3 scriptures on it.I only put 1 up.

There are other safer blood alternatives for medical.Sadly blood is a business in this world.Its clear

[hitch0403]

1 of a few scriptures in bible......

Acts 15:20. “Abstain . . . from blood.” God gave Christians the same command that he had given to Noah. History shows that early Christians refused to consume whole blood or even to use it for medical reasons.

I know that your opinion will likely differ  but I think most would agree that there is more than one way to interpret that 'commandment'.


I interpret it to mean we should refrain from ingesting blood - as in eating it for nourishment.  A transfusion for a life saving medical procedure is quite different (in my opinion).


As for the early Christians' refusal to use blood for medical reasons, I think we can safely say that the medical knowledge of early Christians (and the knowledge of how blood works, its biological purposes, and how to properly and safely use blood for medical purposes) and the medical knowledge of 21st Century doctors (who routinely save lives through the use of donated blood) are quite different.

Its not my opinion...its Gods command.Abstain meaning to not take a part in.There are at least 3 scriptures on it.I only put 1 up.

There are other safer blood alternatives for medical.Sadly blood is a business in this world.Its clear how God feels about it.Why should u even be surprised in this world?Most dont care what HE commands.

Its the same thing with idols and images.You ask people why they pray to them they say it helps me feel like i am closer to God.But HE commands NOT to.I realize some of it is cos of ignorance or not being bible literate.But in many cases its what 1 wants to do instead.As Satan said you are better off deciding good and bad for yourself.

Spirit and truth and ur set free from all the other BS!

And on and on.Abortions,gay marriage.Surely NOT what was originally meant to be.

BTW the early xtians knew how God felt about blood too.As early as bible was written.Medical advances?LOL!More disease NOW then ever.

[UGetPaid]

Its not my opinion...its Gods command.Abstain meaning to not take a part in.There are at least 3 scriptures on it.I only put 1 up.

There are other safer blood alternatives for medical.Sadly blood is a business in this world.Its clear how God feels about it.Why should u even be surprised in this world?Most dont care what HE commands.

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BTW the early xtians knew how God felt about blood too.As early as bible was written.Medical advances?LOL!More disease NOW then ever.

I respectfully disagree.

[tantricia44]

Nope just too far away!

[Cbsteffen]

Now that we have dealt with curiosity about conflicts towards giving blood, let’s keep the remainder of this discussion related to traveling abroad or within only thousands (as opposed to millions) of miles.

[countrygirl12]

Well most people will lie about drug use and sexual activity.  They do testing on the blood or are suppose to.  But when it is for emergency use it would be hard to get the results back because doesn't it take like 3 months for the AIDS test?

No, it is quicker than that. I donate blood about every 8 weeks or so and the Red Cross app will notify you as your donation passes through the various stages: (1) donation "you've donated" (2) processing "your donation is being processed" (3) testing "your donation has been tested" (4) storage "your donation is ready to help save lives" (5) completion [they tell you what medical facility and city your blood ended up at].  I don't know the exact timeline, but my last donation has been at the fifth stage for a least a few weeks now. I had it drawn on November 9th and I have another scheduled for this coming Monday.  So we are probably talking 3-5 weeks tops for the testing.


Even in an emergency situation, I don't think they typically can use fresh donated blood that hasn't been fully tested. When they talk about a blood shortage when natural disasters strike I think (could be wrong here) they are talking more about forecast. They will be using much more of the fully processed and tested units than typical so supplies are gong to be more depleted and they need more volunteer donations to bring supply levels back up to where they need to be for normal need levels.  (That's all just assumption on my part and I may be way off base).

Thanks.  I had wondered about that.

[countrygirl12]

I gave blood quite often. But when I to Mexico for a vacation , and wanted to give blood they told me I had to wait a year. Something about  some illness  take longer to manifest in  your system.  But after a year they took it, no problem. But  here a few years  I was in a hospital that  several people came down with Hep C.  I never came down with it. But  still can not  give blood. Even though it has been 10 years. I am still being tested for it. It seems to me I should be able to by now but they won't.

Well with all the illegals flooding our country you are in contact with people every day who could have illness and disease so I don't see what difference that really makes.  smh

So you were exposed to Hep C I guess? Again, you can be exposed to stuff like that in every day life especially with the situation going on in America right now.

[Cbsteffen]

I gave blood quite often. But when I to Mexico for a vacation , and wanted to give blood they told me I had to wait a year. Something about  some illness  take longer to manifest in  your system.  But after a year they took it, no problem. But  here a few years  I was in a hospital that  several people came down with Hep C.  I never came down with it. But  still can not  give blood. Even though it has been 10 years. I am still being tested for it. It seems to me I should be able to by now but they won't.

Well with all the illegals flooding our country you are in contact with people every day who could have illness and disease so I don't see what difference that really makes.  smh

So you were exposed to Hep C I guess? Again, you can be exposed to stuff like that in every day life especially with the situation going on in America right now.

That’s enough talk about health in this discussion. I just said we already settled curiosity on that.

[timvolley]

I haven't been on a vacation out of the US in years

[hitch0403]

Now that we have dealt with curiosity about conflicts towards giving blood, let’s keep the remainder of this discussion related to traveling abroad or within only thousands (as opposed to millions) of miles.

You are the one that brought up the blood issue.Nothing wrong enlightning someone of the danger of it and biblically supported.If 1 person heeded how God feels about it it was worth putting up.

[hitch0403]

Its not my opinion...its Gods command.Abstain meaning to not take a part in.There are at least 3 scriptures on it.I only put 1 up.

There are other safer blood alternatives for medical.Sadly blood is a business in this world.Its clear how God feels about it.Why should u even be surprised in this world?Most dont care what HE commands.

...


BTW the early xtians knew how God felt about blood too.As early as bible was written.Medical advances?LOL!More disease NOW then ever.

I respectfully disagree.

Jesus said in last days pestilence would run rampant starting from 1914.The Spanish flu killed hundreds of 1000s i believe the yr was 1919.

Did u ever hear of AIDS,heart disease or cancer now??I dont feel like writing all day on others i can come up with.

Genesis 9:4. God allowed Noah and his family to add animal flesh to their diet after the Flood but commanded them not to eat the blood. God told Noah: “Only flesh with its soul—its blood—you must not eat.” This command applies to all mankind from that time on because all are descendants of Noah.

As early as first book in bible Gods command on blood existed.So early Xtians knew.

I dont think its a sin to take cans and bottles back up for deposit.

[countrygirl12]

I gave blood quite often. But when I to Mexico for a vacation , and wanted to give blood they told me I had to wait a year. Something about  some illness  take longer to manifest in  your system.  But after a year they took it, no problem. But  here a few years  I was in a hospital that  several people came down with Hep C.  I never came down with it. But  still can not  give blood. Even though it has been 10 years. I am still being tested for it. It seems to me I should be able to by now but they won't.

Well with all the illegals flooding our country you are in contact with people every day who could have illness and disease so I don't see what difference that really makes.  smh

So you were exposed to Hep C I guess? Again, you can be exposed to stuff like that in every day life especially with the situation going on in America right now.

That’s enough talk about health in this discussion. I just said we already settled curiosity on that.

lol YOU cannot dictate what anyone discusses on this thread or any other.  You cannot control me. Or anyone else. 

[countrygirl12]

1 of a few scriptures in bible......

Acts 15:20. “Abstain . . . from blood.” God gave Christians the same command that he had given to Noah. History shows that early Christians refused to consume whole blood or even to use it for medical reasons.

I know that your opinion will likely differ  but I think most would agree that there is more than one way to interpret that 'commandment'.


I interpret it to mean we should refrain from ingesting blood - as in eating it for nourishment.  A transfusion for a life saving medical procedure is quite different (in my opinion).


As for the early Christians' refusal to use blood for medical reasons, I think we can safely say that the medical knowledge of early Christians (and the knowledge of how blood works, its biological purposes, and how to properly and safely use blood for medical purposes) and the medical knowledge of 21st Century doctors (who routinely save lives through the use of donated blood) are quite different.

There is nothing in the Bible that says you cannot donate or receive blood.  Some people have a warped way of saying what the Bible means.