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1imaginarygirl

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Re: Declawing Cats
« Reply #30 on: December 02, 2018, 12:12:20 pm »
If you are thinking of declawing your cat the best person to ask is your veterinarian.  They would know if they type of cat(s) you have could tolerate such a procedure.  I mean it is a serious surgery where a cat’s toe bones and claws are amputated.  If the same procedure was performed on a human, his finger would be amputated at the last knuckle.  At worst there is chronic pain, lameness, bone spurs, necrosis, and nerve damage, aversion to using the litterbox (due to the cat’s pain in their paws) and increased biting (in compensation for the loss of claws).  That's why it's illegal in most European countries, as well as Israel.  Many Californian cities have passed declawing bans, including Los Angeles, Santa Monica, Beverly Hills, West Hollywood, Burbank, San Francisco etc.  At best there is no real side-effect to the cat (that is physically visible.)  Again, only your veterinarian can really know and give you the truth as to whether your cat(s) should be declawed, but my opinion, do it if you think it will benefit your 'baby', not just to save your furniture because that's a risk you took by getting one.         

It is not a serious surgery. It is very minor, no real pain, no risks. And they go home the same day.  It also  not amputation.

Yeah there are some vets who won't do it but there are also idiots and vets who think you should not spay nor neuter them because it is depriving them of something. And no it isn't. 

The biggest thing this country needs is more people taking care of their own life and less time spent trying to tell somebody else how to live theirs.  If people don't want to declaw their cats then that is fine. But that same person doesn't have the right to attack or scream and yell at somebody else because they do.  And I know people personally who have took it that far.

Please educate yourself. Declawing absolutely is amputation and therefore a major surgery. The distal phalanges are removed at the joint. It is not painless and it is not risk free. As with any surgery, there are risks of complications and infection, both during the surgery and after. This is not a necessary procedure for most cats. This should be the very last resort for cat owners who have exhausted all other attempts to prevent destructive behavior.

Pets are a lot of work, and cats like to scratch. It's their nature. If you don't want to put the time, money and effort into training and caring for a pet, please don't get a pet. If your furniture is more important than your cat's health, please don't get a cat.

Please educate yourself. Declawing cats is not amputation. Nor is it major surgery. Pretty sure my vet knows more about it than you do.

As for the rest of your smart alec response I would bet everything I have that I take better car of my pets than you would yours.  Like I said before you need to mind your own business and take care of yourself and not worry about what I do or what somebody else does.

Well I'm a certified veterinary technician, so I'm pretty sure I'm educated. I'm required to be educated on a yearly basis in order to keep my certification.

dictionary.com says:
amputate
[am-pyoo-teyt]
verb (used with object), am·pu·tat·ed, am·pu·tat·ing.
1. to cut off (all or part of a limb or digit of the body), as by surgery.
2. to prune, lop off, or remove: Because of space limitations the editor amputated the last two paragraphs of the news report.
3. Obsolete . to prune, as branches of trees.

Please see definition 1.

LOL.  Claws on a cat are not limbs.  And anybody can claim to be whatever they want to be on the internet. Like I already told you - I believe MY VET not some random yahoo on line that wants to try to prove everybody wrong. And can only do so by talking down to everyone.

No, claws are not limbs, but they are directly attached to digits. They grow out of the distal phalanx, which is the last bone of the toe. When cats are declawed, part or all of the bone is removed. If just the claws were removed, they would grow back, much like our own fingernails and toenails. Therefore, it is technically amputation. All of this information can easily be googled, if you don't believe me. Many countries have already banned the procedure.

I don't know why you are so defensive about this. I never attacked you. You said it was not amputation. I, as well as others, replied that it is. My job as a vet tech is to educate clients about pet health. I do not berate or shame clients who choose to have their cats declawed, but it is my job to make sure they understand the procedure and that it's not just some kind of intensive nail trim.

Odds are that your cat will be fine after declaw surgery. That doesn't mean it's a procedure that should be done without consideration. If you removed all your fingertips at the knuckle, assuming everything healed as expected, I'm sure you would adapt and do fine without them. But is it natural? I use my fingernails for a lot of things without thinking about it. They're not just cosmetic. I adopted my cat, already front declawed. She doesn't appear to be in pain. However, she still scratches like she has them. And when she's got the zoomies, she sometimes crashes into things and falls off the furniture or her cat tree. Maybe she's just clumsy, but I've seen her instinctively try to grip onto something as she falls, and she can't because she's missing part of her anatomy.

Like I said before, I'm not condemning cat owners for making that decision. I just think there are plenty of scratchers and toys and training methods that should be exhausted first and that declawing should be a last resort.
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Re: Declawing Cats
« Reply #31 on: December 02, 2018, 04:46:37 pm »
We had cats for years and they sure do a lot of damage that is for sure on your furniture. We still refused to declaw them though. :cat: :cat: :cat:

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Re: Declawing Cats
« Reply #32 on: December 02, 2018, 05:54:57 pm »
I would never do that to a cat. Their paws are never the same. They are always in pain, it is very cruel. I live n a rural area and ours go in and out as they want. I do have damage to my furniture and door frames, but it is my choice to have pets that have claws, not theirs.

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Re: Declawing Cats
« Reply #33 on: December 02, 2018, 07:17:34 pm »
I don't see anything wrong with declawing cats. When I was thinking of getting a cat, I was going to have it declawed. I don't see it any more wrong than get your pet spayed.

I'm going to try two more things and they don't work then he gets declawed. The citrus spray and the sofa cover. Oh I forgot, the carpet. I just got new carpet over a month ago. Leaning towards declawing. Thank for responding!
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Re: Declawing Cats
« Reply #34 on: December 03, 2018, 03:43:35 am »
I would never do that to a cat. Their paws are never the same. They are always in pain, it is very cruel. I live n a rural area and ours go in and out as they want. I do have damage to my furniture and door frames, but it is my choice to have pets that have claws, not theirs.

lol They are NOT always in pain.

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Re: Declawing Cats
« Reply #35 on: December 03, 2018, 04:39:33 am »
I think it depends on the cat. Wait and see if yours does claw furniture or people before running out to get him/her declawed. We had a big black male outdoor cat who caught mice and other small animals outside, but was just a soft loving cat inside. We left his claws on and he was always very careful around the children, even when they were babies, and he never clawed the furniture either. But outdoors he would get into terrible fights with other cats.

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Re: Declawing Cats
« Reply #36 on: December 03, 2018, 05:07:02 am »
I have had cats all my life and have only ever had 1 that got declawed. He lives inside and scratched me really bad by accident, my arm got infected because I have so many health problems I had to get him declawed or get rid of him. He does not go outside so he is fine

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Re: Declawing Cats
« Reply #37 on: December 03, 2018, 05:20:35 am »
We've had both cats with and without their front claws.  Clawing is a natural instinct for them, so you do need to protect or somehow teach them where they can.  If they go outdoor it is safer for them to have their claws.

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Re: Declawing Cats
« Reply #38 on: December 03, 2018, 01:13:04 pm »
Declawing cats is cruel. I have 3 cats and all 3 have their claws. I'm not gonna say they don't ever get into trouble -- they do -- but I can fix a chair that has scratch marks in it. I can't make a cat grow claws back.

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Re: Declawing Cats
« Reply #39 on: December 03, 2018, 05:08:54 pm »
I have a cat and had her front claws declawed because when I got her my daughter was younger and I didn't want her to get hurt.

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Re: Declawing Cats
« Reply #40 on: December 03, 2018, 08:08:39 pm »
i can live with claws

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Re: Declawing Cats
« Reply #41 on: December 04, 2018, 07:51:39 am »
I personally would never do it. I've had several cats over my lifetime. My cat as a child was an indoor/outdoor cat. The three cats I've had as an adult have all been strictly indoor. None were ever declawed and I do not personally believe in doing that.


I have a chair that my now deceased cat loved to scratch. It now makes me think of her whenever my hand brushes against the rough edge. My current cat often likes to scratch the carpet to get attention (because I usually yell at her to stop it when I catch her doing it).  If we leave a box of papers or laundry basket on the floor that it not a permanent furniture fixture, she tends to scratch the carpet around its edges... (maybe her way of telling us to clean up the mess)


But here's the bottom line: each pet owner has to make the decision him/herself.  I personally think it is a bad idea, but I don't condemn those who choose to do it. If someone asked my opinion in advance of making the decision, I would try to talk them out of it. But it is not my decision. If you choose to declaw, I disagree with your decision. Like many other issues, people are going to disagree, but that's what makes for healthy debate...
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Re: Declawing Cats
« Reply #42 on: December 04, 2018, 08:03:43 am »
I've never had any of my cats declawed because they were never happy being inside 24/7.  They needed their claws to protect themselves. Most of them used a cat scratch pole i had for them, butr I had one who loved my loveseat. The upholstery was more like a tweed or a tight woven material and it was old, so I didn't really care. None of them ever bothered my good furniture.

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Re: Declawing Cats
« Reply #43 on: December 04, 2018, 09:46:09 am »
I've had cats that were both declawed and not declawed. I never personally took a cat to be declawed. I'm surprised the subject brought out such differing views.

It's easier on humans if the cats are declawed, but I think it may just mean maintaining more discipline to make sure that non-declawed cats don't scratch on things they're not supposed to (like the cat I have right now). She has her own scratching post but occasionally will test the waters of disobedience and/or independence.

She stays indoors because we make her. When she occasionally manages to get outside, she doesn't seem to have any problem climbing, etc.


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Re: Declawing Cats
« Reply #44 on: December 04, 2018, 03:35:14 pm »
We have had two cats, sisters since 2000.  One will use scratching posts no problems, the other has ruined more furniture than I can count.  If I had it to do over I would have had them declawed when they were little but now they are too old or the one offender the other doesn't have a problem.  Back awhile I like you did some research and I just didn't know what t do because of the negative reviews.  I believe I could have a zillion cat scratching things and the bad cat would still scratch my furniture.

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