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Demons or Mental illess
« on: October 13, 2017, 09:02:47 pm »
Before I never used to believe in demons but reading and hearing about what some people do to other people is just demonic and sick.  You can claim someone can be mentally ill but I do believe some are really possessed by demons.

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Re: Demons or Mental illess
« Reply #1 on: October 14, 2017, 10:07:33 am »
Well if you support the bible then you know they exist.Didnt Jesus expel them from people?Doesnt the influence of the occult exist in music,movies and violence in the world?

Go look at a picture of Adam Lanza before he blew away 26 people a few yrs ago at the school in Ct.The look on his face is a look of evil possession.

I dont rule out someone could be mentally disturbed too from imperfection or maybe a lifelong disease taking drugs.But the bible is clear Satan and rebellious angels <demons>exist and have influenced this world.

You can also read in Genesis right before the flood how angels then were able to materialize human bodies and have sex with all the good-looking woman and they created the Nephilim...giants that were wicked in that day.
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Re: Demons or Mental illess
« Reply #2 on: October 14, 2017, 12:39:20 pm »
i believe some people are just born to be mean and cruel --its a sad sad thing

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Re: Demons or Mental illess
« Reply #3 on: October 15, 2017, 02:46:17 am »
Mental illness, drug induced or just plain horrible human being. Their are some man made drugs like bath salts that can make a person can crazy and do sick things to themselves & others.

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Re: Demons or Mental illess
« Reply #4 on: October 15, 2017, 06:25:54 am »
A lot of evil in our world today

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Re: Demons or Mental illess
« Reply #5 on: October 15, 2017, 07:32:59 am »
it can be both

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Re: Demons or Mental illess
« Reply #6 on: October 18, 2017, 01:24:35 pm »
Well if you support the bible then you know they exist.Didnt Jesus expel them from people?Doesnt the influence of the occult exist in music,movies and violence in the world?

Go look at a picture of Adam Lanza before he blew away 26 people a few yrs ago at the school in Ct.The look on his face is a look of evil possession.

I dont rule out someone could be mentally disturbed too from imperfection or maybe a lifelong disease taking drugs.But the bible is clear Satan and rebellious angels <demons>exist and have influenced this world.

You can also read in Genesis right before the flood how angels then were able to materialize human bodies and have sex with all the good-looking woman and they created the Nephilim...giants that were wicked in that day.

Again, file it under "Told you before" but Demons did not have sex with women. They do not have bodies of flesh and do not have the wherewithal to procreate.


But, yes, demons are quite real. Something you see regularly in the bible is the demon possessed killing themselves.(Judas, the herd of pigs, the possessed boy's father told Jesus the demon tries to kill his son by fire & water,etc)   So when I see nutjobs end up killing themselves after their atrocity has been committed, I tend to think Demon possession may  have been behind it.

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Re: Demons or Mental illess
« Reply #7 on: October 18, 2017, 02:26:13 pm »

    You shall know them by their actions...results.
    Crazy things they do to themselves and terrible things to others.
    Inferno exists in this world...and some choose that lifestyle.
    Unless they repent and change their ways and actions they are doomed.

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Re: Demons or Mental illess
« Reply #8 on: October 18, 2017, 03:39:20 pm »
Well if you support the bible then you know they exist.Didnt Jesus expel them from people?Doesnt the influence of the occult exist in music,movies and violence in the world?

Go look at a picture of Adam Lanza before he blew away 26 people a few yrs ago at the school in Ct.The look on his face is a look of evil possession.

I dont rule out someone could be mentally disturbed too from imperfection or maybe a lifelong disease taking drugs.But the bible is clear Satan and rebellious angels <demons>exist and have influenced this world.

You can also read in Genesis right before the flood how angels then were able to materialize human bodies and have sex with all the good-looking woman and they created the Nephilim...giants that were wicked in that day.

Again, file it under "Told you before" but Demons did not have sex with women. They do not have bodies of flesh and do not have the wherewithal to procreate.


But, yes, demons are quite real. Something you see regularly in the bible is the demon possessed killing themselves.(Judas, the herd of pigs, the possessed boy's father told Jesus the demon tries to kill his son by fire & water,etc)   So when I see nutjobs end up killing themselves after their atrocity has been committed, I tend to think Demon possession may  have been behind it.
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And the angels who did not keep their positions of authority but abandoned their proper dwelling--these he has kept in darkness, bound with everlasting chains for judgment on the great Day.Jude 1:6

File it under...why did i even bother to tell you.

Nephilim
The Nephilim /ˈnɛfɨˌlɪm/ נָפִיל, Naphíl or Naphil) were offspring of the "sons of God" and the "daughters of men" before the Deluge according to Genesis 6:4; the name is also used in reference to giants who inhabited Canaan at the time of the Israelite conquest of Canaan according to Numbers 13:33.

<yawn>its pretty cut and dry what happened here.But you keep holding fast to your Babylonish beliefs and dont heed the warning given by God to NOT share in her sins.

https://www.jw.org/en/bible-teachings/questions/babylon-the-great/
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Re: Demons or Mental illess
« Reply #9 on: October 18, 2017, 06:39:17 pm »
Well if you support the bible then you know they exist.Didnt Jesus expel them from people?Doesnt the influence of the occult exist in music,movies and violence in the world?

Go look at a picture of Adam Lanza before he blew away 26 people a few yrs ago at the school in Ct.The look on his face is a look of evil possession.

I dont rule out someone could be mentally disturbed too from imperfection or maybe a lifelong disease taking drugs.But the bible is clear Satan and rebellious angels <demons>exist and have influenced this world.

You can also read in Genesis right before the flood how angels then were able to materialize human bodies and have sex with all the good-looking woman and they created the Nephilim...giants that were wicked in that day.

Again, file it under "Told you before" but Demons did not have sex with women. They do not have bodies of flesh and do not have the wherewithal to procreate.


But, yes, demons are quite real. Something you see regularly in the bible is the demon possessed killing themselves.(Judas, the herd of pigs, the possessed boy's father told Jesus the demon tries to kill his son by fire & water,etc)   So when I see nutjobs end up killing themselves after their atrocity has been committed, I tend to think Demon possession may  have been behind it.
New International Version
And the angels who did not keep their positions of authority but abandoned their proper dwelling--these he has kept in darkness, bound with everlasting chains for judgment on the great Day.Jude 1:6

File it under...why did i even bother to tell you.

Nephilim
The Nephilim /ˈnɛfɨˌlɪm/ נָפִיל, Naphíl or Naphil) were offspring of the "sons of God" and the "daughters of men" before the Deluge according to Genesis 6:4; the name is also used in reference to giants who inhabited Canaan at the time of the Israelite conquest of Canaan according to Numbers 13:33.

<yawn>its pretty cut and dry what happened here.But you keep holding fast to your Babylonish beliefs and dont heed the warning given by God to NOT share in her sins.

https://www.jw.org/en/bible-teachings/questions/babylon-the-great/

And the angels who did not keep their positions of authority but abandoned their proper dwelling--these he has kept in darkness, bound with everlasting chains for judgment on the great Day.Jude 1:6

Nowhere in this verse does it -even REMOTELY state- that demons took the prerogative of human flesh. You are reading into the text something that clearly wasn't stated. Some angels sided with Satan and for this, God punished them. Saying it's cut & dry is an understatement. to get any other interpretation from that verse would take a herculean effort.

Knowing what we do, "Sons of God" meant the Godly line of Seth, whose offspring were obedient to God, unlike Cain, whose decedents are the "daughters of men". Of course, I too was taught this fairy tale that demons could have sex with women & produce giants, but I actually went beyond what was spoon fed to me by unreputable sources and did a little something called STUDY. I urge you again not to take what the Watchtower tells you as fact. Use some common sense and stop being led by the nose by a known cult.

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Re: Demons or Mental illess
« Reply #10 on: October 18, 2017, 07:37:26 pm »
When your Babylonish religeon fulfuills Math 24:14 give me a heads up.

And not to mention Psalms 83:18....try using it sometime.God likes to know we know HIS name.

Or obeys Jesus command to commemorate Passover instead of your other babylonish teaching NOT found in bible.

Need i go on?

Actually i will.Your theory JJ on angels NOT taking on fleshly bodies is again proven wrong using bible.Abraham entertained angels that were described as men and Sodomites even inquired to who they were for unnatural purpose.That shows right there that obedient angels <nevertheless>angels were able in that time to take on fleshly bodies.Go read Genesis 19:5 and see the Sodomites wanting to have sex with angels bearing resemblance of men to Lot.

Of course im sure you will come up with some silly Babylonish explanation...LOL!

Even tho just about everyone here could care less of this biblical teaching,you in your own way JJ help the witness come to life.If i can impersonate a Geicho commericial,even a caveman can understand this.I dont think the Sodomites saw spirits...they saw spirits taking on fleshly bodies.

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« Reply #11 on: October 18, 2017, 07:49:01 pm »
Mental illness is already not taken seriously enough without people trying to say their possessed with demons.  Mental illness is real and craziness like this will further prevent it being taken seriously enough for more widespread diagnosis , treatment and awareness

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Re: Demons or Mental illess
« Reply #12 on: October 18, 2017, 07:59:42 pm »
demons or evil definitely exists in the world today

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Re: Demons or Mental illess
« Reply #13 on: October 18, 2017, 08:53:00 pm »
Mental illness is already not taken seriously enough without people trying to say their possessed with demons.  Mental illness is real and craziness like this will further prevent it being taken seriously enough for more widespread diagnosis , treatment and awareness
Do u need a reminder?
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We know that we are children of God, and that the whole world is under the control of the evil one.1John 5:19

As i said in an earlier post i am aware man himself thru imperfection and bad habits can contribute as well.But my perception here is many under estimate the power of Satan and rebellious angels.The ol seeing is believing line eh?Well if u support bible then u know Satan and his hordes are real.You cant just believe part of it.Friendship with this world is enmity with God says the bible.With good reason.Cos HE has nothing to do with the garbage that goes on,but yet many blame him too.

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« Reply #14 on: October 19, 2017, 03:14:29 pm »
Mental illness is already not taken seriously enough without people trying to say their possessed with demons.  Mental illness is real and craziness like this will further prevent it being taken seriously enough for more widespread diagnosis , treatment and awareness
Do u need a reminder?
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We know that we are children of God, and that the whole world is under the control of the evil one.1John 5:19

As i said in an earlier post i am aware man himself thru imperfection and bad habits can contribute as well.But my perception here is many under estimate the power of Satan and rebellious angels.The ol seeing is believing line eh?Well if u support bible then u know Satan and his hordes are real.You cant just believe part of it.Friendship with this world is enmity with God says the bible.With good reason.Cos HE has nothing to do with the garbage that goes on,but yet many blame him too.


Maybe you need a reminder of realities of life . People claiming that everything is because of demons is what has caused people to be killed because of exorcisms being preformed on people that had very real physical and mental conditions that should have been treated by medical professionals and not religion

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