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aflyingmonkey

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Re: BAD tippers
« Reply #15 on: July 13, 2017, 11:21:30 am »
Should have "leaked" the statement online... anonymously of course.
Then the situation.  No greater pressure than the pressure of social media's SJW (social justice warriors)  -- they would have shamed him & started a gofund me for her.... been done in the past.

I think tips should be included/hidden in the price for the meals.  Tipping is absurd practice for food service. Most of the tips aren't even declared, least that has been what i've seen. 

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Re: BAD tippers
« Reply #16 on: July 13, 2017, 01:27:32 pm »

This could have all been avoided if they had just asked the customer instead of discussing it among themselves and leaving the one person it truly involved out of it all.


Except that in MOST cases (this is consistently true with my wife and I anyway) you leave your tip and then you depart the restaurant.  The customer is more often than not not around to ask, which is why my daughter instead asked the managers for their input/advice.


So here, the customer voluntarily took himself out of the discussion; he was not intentionally left out. ::)

Did she not see this before he left?  I may have misunderstood.  A lot of restaurants these days you give the wait staff your card and they go run the card and bring your card back to you.  If that were the case then she would have seen the 3 and two zeros before he ever left.  I would think when the card was run who ever done it would have noticed.  The way you said it when she saw the 3.00 or 300 or whatever she discussed it among the other employees instead of just asking him.  Something that large I would probably ask them to be sure.

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Re: BAD tippers
« Reply #17 on: July 13, 2017, 01:28:48 pm »

This could have all been avoided if they had just asked the customer instead of discussing it among themselves and leaving the one person it truly involved out of it all.


Except that in MOST cases (this is consistently true with my wife and I anyway) you leave your tip and then you depart the restaurant.  The customer is more often than not not around to ask, which is why my daughter instead asked the managers for their input/advice.


So here, the customer voluntarily took himself out of the discussion; he was not intentionally left out. ::)

I was going to make this point. I see it all the time, people fill in their receipts and walk away, a lot of times they never even see the server again.

How can this be?  How do you fill in the receipt and then never see an employee again?  They have to give you your card back.  You don't fill in the receipt and walk away and your card be ran later.

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Re: BAD tippers
« Reply #18 on: July 13, 2017, 01:31:07 pm »
The first thing the manger or owner should have done was call the credit company, they in turn would have called the man.  Then he should have come down to the restaurant and had the cc voided and repaid the correct amount with a tip for the young lady for being honest plus the  work of serving him.  So he was at fault but  so was the restaurant for not following through with it and checking with the man.  Yep things happen.
I agree. With so much fraud nowadays, companies, even restaurants, should be more aware, and call the credit card company with any suspicious or questionable transactions. They actually took a big chance, because what if it had been a stolen credit card, and the man purposely gave that large tip because he knew he was spending it fraudulently? not to mention, when he does a charge-back, the restaurant has to pay the $20 or whatever it is charge.

He used the card.  It was HIS card.  And HE signed the receipt.  So he could not say it was fraud.  I am thinking it was a mistake.  Except for the fact that he supposedly added the two numbers together to get a total of over 300.  Maybe he is just stupid. lol

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Re: BAD tippers
« Reply #19 on: July 13, 2017, 01:34:35 pm »
I do tip only if I have too.

I'm not sure I understand "I do tip only if I have too".  Are you saying you don't routinely tip your servers?   

I tip wait staff but it is based on service.  If I have to go look for them to get a refill on my drink or to get a to-go container or constantly flag down some one else and have them go look for my server or if they are rude or hateful they will not get a tip.  If they want a tip then they need to earn it.  Otherwise they can make min wage.  And the employer is required to make up the difference to make the employee make at least the federal min wage.

As for the comment in question - I would assume they mean more as if they go to a restaurant where you have servers then they tip.  But if they go to a store and they have the "tip" jar sitting there they do not put money in it.  These days everyone wants to be paid "extra" for doing the job they are already paid to do.  If you are a cashier then your employers pays you.  Do not expect me to give you an extra $2 for ringing up my items.

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Re: BAD tippers
« Reply #20 on: July 13, 2017, 01:39:34 pm »
Should have "leaked" the statement online... anonymously of course.
Then the situation.  No greater pressure than the pressure of social media's SJW (social justice warriors)  -- they would have shamed him & started a gofund me for her.... been done in the past.

I think tips should be included/hidden in the price for the meals.  Tipping is absurd practice for food service. Most of the tips aren't even declared, least that has been what i've seen. 

That is not the way to handle things.  You would not want that done to you.  And you nor anyone else has the right to "shame" him.  What if this were reversed.  What if the waitress in this situation had been the one who went out to eat and she had wrote 3.00 and the dot was missed and the total had been changed to make it look like 300 and she was being blasted all over social media?  Would you think that would be okay?

I actually am agreeing with the customer here.  He is correct.  You should pretty much know that you are not going to get a $300 tip on an order that is less than $30.  And they did see it before he left the store.  They run the transaction and they had to MANUALLY type in the tip amount.  So they DID KNOW that the tip was $300.  Maybe the restaurant needs to be blasted on social media.  Maybe they need to be shamed.  Shamed and blasted to the point that they have to close their doors and all the employees lose their jobs.

Social Media is not the way to handle things when you don't get your way.

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Re: BAD tippers
« Reply #21 on: July 13, 2017, 03:38:38 pm »

This could have all been avoided if they had just asked the customer instead of discussing it among themselves and leaving the one person it truly involved out of it all.


Except that in MOST cases (this is consistently true with my wife and I anyway) you leave your tip and then you depart the restaurant.  The customer is more often than not not around to ask, which is why my daughter instead asked the managers for their input/advice.


So here, the customer voluntarily took himself out of the discussion; he was not intentionally left out. ::)

I was going to make this point. I see it all the time, people fill in their receipts and walk away, a lot of times they never even see the server again.

How can this be?  How do you fill in the receipt and then never see an employee again?  They have to give you your card back.  You don't fill in the receipt and walk away and your card be ran later.

In my experience they usually bring you the check, take the card and only run it for the original amount. You add the tip when you're signing it and you leave that receipt on the table when you leave. I always have to wait for them to process the correct amount for a few days( taking off the original pending charge and doing the final amount with the tip.) to see how much money I actually have in my account.

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Re: BAD tippers
« Reply #22 on: July 13, 2017, 05:50:49 pm »
Shame on him.

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Re: BAD tippers
« Reply #23 on: July 13, 2017, 11:16:28 pm »
I am sorry that happened to your daughter. I work as a server so I completely get it. When I have something that I am unsure of I also ask other employees and managers because you never know. Your daughter did nothing wrong.

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Re: BAD tippers
« Reply #24 on: July 14, 2017, 05:32:25 am »
Most people sign the receipt and leave as this man did.  It's not her fault he can't count and it's really hard to write 300 instead of 28.  You can't tell who is an average Joe just by looking at them so she didn't know if he was well off or not.  Many waitresses confer with others in the  restaurant when they receive a large tip because it makes the news.  He was wrong for being irate because of his mistake.  She did nothing wrong but the restaurant should have helped out with the overpayment.

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Re: BAD tippers
« Reply #25 on: July 14, 2017, 05:53:23 am »
That is so weird!

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Re: BAD tippers
« Reply #26 on: July 14, 2017, 06:18:56 am »
Waiters pay depends more on their tips than the pay from employer.

Yeah, that's a real unfortunate situation...shouldn't have happened.

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Re: BAD tippers
« Reply #27 on: July 14, 2017, 07:06:04 am »
That guy had a lot of nerve.

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Re: BAD tippers
« Reply #28 on: July 14, 2017, 07:09:32 am »
The first thing the manger or owner should have done was call the credit company, they in turn would have called the man.  Then he should have come down to the restaurant and had the cc voided and repaid the correct amount with a tip for the young lady for being honest plus the  work of serving him.  So he was at fault but  so was the restaurant for not following through with it and checking with the man.  Yep things happen.

Why would they call the credit card company.  It is none of their business to call the credit card company.  And they knew it was over $300.  They all discussed it.  Well with every one but the customer.  The owner of the card.

All restaurants should have a policy where if the tip is over a certain amount they have to verbally confirm with the customer.  If the tip is several hundred or several thousand ask the customer "is this correct"?  The average joe is not going to leave a huge tip like that.

And IF this was all a mistake and he wrote 3 with two zeros and the dot was missed and he is not the one who added the total which normally the customer does not add the total the cashier does - then he has a right to be upset.  I would be too.  I would be beyond irate.

This could have all been avoided if they had just asked the customer instead of discussing it among themselves and leaving the one person it truly involved out of it all.
This.  Asking would have been the correct response, even if it meant running out to the parking lot. In all the cases of huge tips there is always some sort of note beside it.  Just a case on the local news of a member of New Kids On The Block leaving a thousand dollar tip on a $78 bill at a Waffle House and the note he made.

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Re: BAD tippers
« Reply #29 on: July 14, 2017, 07:23:43 am »
human error if it were my mistake i woud of asked for it back but given he lady a decent tip.

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