Obama care? Yes? No? Why?

[klkwid]

First off, I am an administrator in a doctor's office.  Our business is to help people.  We do NOT want people to stay sick.  They do a good enough job of keeping themselves sick by smoking and eating all sorts of crap.  You guys are more than welcome to continue to put money in the pockets of people who make cheap vitamins and supplements and claim that they do all these miracle things to your body.  Have at it!  I take a LOT of offense to the post that says that we are in the business of keeping people sick because that is JUST NOT THE CASE!

As far as the "Obama Care" thing goes, I have seriously mixed feelings about it.  If it does provide healthcare for illegals, I don't like it-it sounds like it does to me.  What happens when you have all these illegals in the streets sick and dying, though?  They're going to go to the ERs and tax dollars are going to have to pay for it anyway!!  We have to DEPORT ILLEGALS NOW!!!!  How?  I don't have a good answer for that, but by allowing them to get basically free healthcare here is NOT helping the case.  Strict laws against hiring them would be a plus-or at least strict laws that are ENFORCED.  For the Americans, Obama's health care plan could be the basic fix for us for now, but I don't think it's going to work inthe long run.  Yes, we do need a fix now-we have to have some sort of insurance for everyone because people are going bankrupt from medical bills.  If the insurances would be forced to pay reasonable rates, we would be able to charge appropriately.  Right now we have to charge high to keep the insurances from cutting us more.  You want to know what's unfair??  The cardiologist I work for gets $300 to put in a pacemaker.  Yup-the insurances have decided that for 10+years of training, having to pay HUGE amounts to protect us against potentially unreasonably high malpractice claims (which we have none of EVER but we still have to pay about 30k per year in insurance against it becauase we do high risk things SUCH as pacemaker implantations), and having the actual ability to do an hour to 3 hour procedure depending on the ability of the heart to conduct the electricity based on where they put the leads in the actual heart muscle, it's worth a measly 300 bucks.  Is that fair?  If you really think so, go do it yourself.

[klkwid]

Oh-and I forgot to mention.  There's a new proposal that Medicare should cut procedures such as pacemaker implantation by another 30% next year.  You're going to lose all your cardiologists eventually-or else they're not going to accept Medicare anymore.  Yes, we are on a contract with them.  We can say that we don't accept their terms anymore and make the patients pay cash for procedures.  It wouldn't work for just one doctor to do it, but there is buzz around that the American College of Cardiology (look it up for more information) may recommend that its members stop accepting Medicare.  Once that happens, it'll be all downhill from there.  We want to work!!!  We don't want to lose our jobs just like the rest of America!!! 

Again, if you've never heard of the American College of Cardiology, chek out the initials after your cardiologist's name on their card.  If it says FACC, he or she is a member.  If it doesn't say that, I would reconsider who I'm seeing for cardiology needs.

[lynnc35]

I would like healthcare for everyone, but it has to be written into a good bill, with a good public option

[liljp617]

First off, I am an administrator in a doctor's office.  Our business is to help people.  We do NOT want people to stay sick.  They do a good enough job of keeping themselves sick by smoking and eating all sorts of crap.  You guys are more than welcome to continue to put money in the pockets of people who make cheap vitamins and supplements and claim that they do all these miracle things to your body.  Have at it!  I take a LOT of offense to the post that says that we are in the business of keeping people sick because that is JUST NOT THE CASE!

Doctors are in and out of the room in 5 minutes. They have to be with the current system.  They may not want people to be sick, but I've met few doctors who show a genuine interest in people getting better quickly.

Don't act like vitamin supplements don't improve health or support the immune system, please.

[JosephRomero]

Great discussion!  I am active duty military and I can give you a little insight to government run healthcare.  We have to use it everyday.  When we get sick, we are told who we see and when we'll see them.  We have no choice in the matter.  If we don't like what the doctor tells us, we can complain to a patient advocate, but other than that, we have no recourse.  We are not allowed to seek second opinions.  If a military doctor does something wrong, we are NOT allowed to sue them for malpractice.  Now, I have been active duty for 18 years, so I might be a little biased, but this is what I see as "government run healthcare".  
I HAVE however, been in a Japanese hospital.  I was stationed in Japan for 8 years.  These people are VERY effecient and VERY good at what they do.  The Japanese have an extremely strong work ethic, no matter what they are doing, from the flagman at road construction to the doctors at the hospitals.  I'm sure there are a ton of different things that we as an American society can learn from them and I'm positive that there certain aspects of their government that would not work in the U.S.
I've rambled, so let me close this.  I would love to have a choice in my health care.  In any way that I could.  Obama is not the worst President we've ever had.  They've all made their mistakes and did what they thought was best for the country.  Every President inherits the problems of the last President.  This is not the first time health care has come up and there will never be a solution to the health care problem that EVERYONE will agree with.  The government just has to listen to the people and try to peace together something that works for everyone IF they can.  Sometimes that might mean removing themselves from the problem all together!

 

[Cuppycake]

First off, I am an administrator in a doctor's office.  Our business is to help people.  We do NOT want people to stay sick.  They do a good enough job of keeping themselves sick by smoking and eating all sorts of crap.  You guys are more than welcome to continue to put money in the pockets of people who make cheap vitamins and supplements and claim that they do all these miracle things to your body.  Have at it!  I take a LOT of offense to the post that says that we are in the business of keeping people sick because that is JUST NOT THE CASE!

As far as the "Obama Care" thing goes, I have seriously mixed feelings about it.  If it does provide healthcare for illegals, I don't like it-it sounds like it does to me.  What happens when you have all these illegals in the streets sick and dying, though?  They're going to go to the ERs and tax dollars are going to have to pay for it anyway!!  We have to DEPORT ILLEGALS NOW!!!!  How?  I don't have a good answer for that, but by allowing them to get basically free healthcare here is NOT helping the case.  Strict laws against hiring them would be a plus-or at least strict laws that are ENFORCED.  For the Americans, Obama's health care plan could be the basic fix for us for now, but I don't think it's going to work inthe long run.  Yes, we do need a fix now-we have to have some sort of insurance for everyone because people are going bankrupt from medical bills.  If the insurances would be forced to pay reasonable rates, we would be able to charge appropriately.  Right now we have to charge high to keep the insurances from cutting us more.  You want to know what's unfair??  The cardiologist I work for gets $300 to put in a pacemaker.  Yup-the insurances have decided that for 10+years of training, having to pay HUGE amounts to protect us against potentially unreasonably high malpractice claims (which we have none of EVER but we still have to pay about 30k per year in insurance against it becauase we do high risk things SUCH as pacemaker implantations), and having the actual ability to do an hour to 3 hour procedure depending on the ability of the heart to conduct the electricity based on where they put the leads in the actual heart muscle, it's worth a measly 300 bucks.  Is that fair?  If you really think so, go do it yourself.

While I agree with you wholeheartedly about illegals need to be gone I can not sit here and see untruths said about the medical industry. I have lupus and have had it since I was 12 years old. I can honestly say to you that none of the countless doctors I have seen over the years has ever done anything of any help to me. They have fed me nothing but pills that made me worse! They barely spent any time with me and fed me painkillers which I refuse to take. For years they poked me with needles sent me to specialists and sent me home with pills but not a one of them ever said what I had. None of them cared. They only wanted my money and that is all.

[michealm1979]

Obamacare is a total joke, like i said on another post, socialized health care is not the way to go, look @ Canada, it is far worse than what we have now. They should just allow anyone who cant afford insurance the availability to get Medicaid or an equivalent, it would make things better, not worse, I mean come on we pay taxes, let us use our money we pay into the system for our benefit, not for someone to use to wage war for oil.