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hitch0403

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Re: SCotUS Decision on Texas Abortion Regulations
« Reply #30 on: August 09, 2016, 12:39:20 pm »
Paints,JJ,myself or anyone else couldnt stop you from having an abortion just like we couldnt stop anyone from taking drugs.All we can do is present how God views the situation.

Then we all answer to him.

I know you will disgaree and say there will be manmade laws that treat woman like a criminal if she kills the baby.Well if you support bible <not sure if u do>then i think u know what eye for eye meant.Actually u might consider it getting off easy if u just got jailed....and if the woman then decides to use underground and dies from it she made a bad choice there.

God doesnt support a clean environment where the abortion is supposed to be done right!!ITs still murder!!

Truly amazing how much comes back to satan telling Eve independence from God is more beneficial and you wont die!!

The history of the human race speaks volumes for showing A&E made wrong decision!
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Re: SCotUS Decision on Texas Abortion Regulations
« Reply #31 on: August 11, 2016, 07:29:24 am »
Hitch, you're missing the point. 
The decision to abort or not is between a woman and her doctor. 

Your religion is irrelevant to her choice. 

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Re: SCotUS Decision on Texas Abortion Regulations
« Reply #32 on: August 11, 2016, 02:29:07 pm »
Paints,i support the bible.Of course i know that is irrelavant to the majority of the world.

Of course i hope that if a FC member was deciding to have an abortion and she saw how God felt about it from these posts it would help her to obey how HE views it!!

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Re: SCotUS Decision on Texas Abortion Regulations
« Reply #33 on: August 13, 2016, 02:38:10 pm »
Studies have shown that only 0.8% of abortions are done because of the health risks to the mother, while 98.3% are simply a personal choice. Yet, this is somehow made into a woman's health issue? It's a scapegoat.






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Re: SCotUS Decision on Texas Abortion Regulations
« Reply #34 on: August 14, 2016, 10:35:27 am »
Of course, it's a woman's health issue.  Men don't get pregnant. 



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Re: SCotUS Decision on Texas Abortion Regulations
« Reply #35 on: August 14, 2016, 12:13:04 pm »
Again, only 0.8% of abortions are because of risks to the health of the mother. That's the extent that it is a woman's health issue.

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Re: SCotUS Decision on Texas Abortion Regulations
« Reply #36 on: August 15, 2016, 01:00:38 am »
The laws against drug use apply to both sexes.
Prostitution laws criminalize women, while giving a wink and a nod to the men who use them.
Laws against public nudity apply to both sexes.

If your religious views tell you that abortion is murder, then don't have one.
But your right to practice your religion ends where mine begin.



So you're basically saying abortion can't be a crime, because only a woman can commit it?

We're talking about a human life here. A human life should not be treated like an inconvenience.  This is the 21st century. I'm sure there is more than enough birth control options open to you. Abortion on demand should not be one of them.

No, what I'm saying is it's not your business.

My body.  My choice. 

So if you want to commit murder, is that also none of my business because it's your choice? There's a logic that you're trying desperately to avoid. We're not in the Dark Ages here. As a "civilized" society we can't be so callus to the plight of the slaughter of millions that goes on at a daily basis. All for the sake of "convenience". 

If I want to commit murder of a living breathing soul, yes, you have the duty to stop me.
But to deny my right to the control of my own body is unacceptable.
My body does not belong to you.  It doesn't belong to the government, and it doesn't belong to the church.




You cannot use your body to commit murder and abortion is ostensibly legalized murder.   

Google JediJohnnie and May the Force be with you!

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Re: SCotUS Decision on Texas Abortion Regulations
« Reply #37 on: August 15, 2016, 05:31:03 am »
Again, only 0.8% of abortions are because of risks to the health of the mother. That's the extent that it is a woman's health issue.

Until men can get pregnant, it is a health issue that applies to women ONLY.

Her choice is not your business.  Her reasons are not so simple.

https://www.guttmacher.org/about/journals/psrh/2005/reasons-us-women-have-abortions-quantitative-and-qualitative-perspectives




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Re: SCotUS Decision on Texas Abortion Regulations
« Reply #38 on: August 15, 2016, 05:36:45 am »
The laws against drug use apply to both sexes.
Prostitution laws criminalize women, while giving a wink and a nod to the men who use them.
Laws against public nudity apply to both sexes.

If your religious views tell you that abortion is murder, then don't have one.
But your right to practice your religion ends where mine begin.



So you're basically saying abortion can't be a crime, because only a woman can commit it?

We're talking about a human life here. A human life should not be treated like an inconvenience.  This is the 21st century. I'm sure there is more than enough birth control options open to you. Abortion on demand should not be one of them.

No, what I'm saying is it's not your business.

My body.  My choice. 

So if you want to commit murder, is that also none of my business because it's your choice? There's a logic that you're trying desperately to avoid. We're not in the Dark Ages here. As a "civilized" society we can't be so callus to the plight of the slaughter of millions that goes on at a daily basis. All for the sake of "convenience". 

If I want to commit murder of a living breathing soul, yes, you have the duty to stop me.
But to deny my right to the control of my own body is unacceptable.
My body does not belong to you.  It doesn't belong to the government, and it doesn't belong to the church.




You cannot use your body to commit murder and abortion is ostensibly legalized murder.   

As I said, my body belongs to me.  My choice, as to what and how I use it.

62% of abortions are sought by religious women.  24% are Catholic. 
Clean out your own house first.

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Re: SCotUS Decision on Texas Abortion Regulations
« Reply #39 on: August 15, 2016, 02:31:44 pm »
Again, only 0.8% of abortions are because of risks to the health of the mother. That's the extent that it is a woman's health issue.

Until men can get pregnant, it is a health issue that applies to women ONLY.

Her choice is not your business.  Her reasons are not so simple.

https://www.guttmacher.org/about/journals/psrh/2005/reasons-us-women-have-abortions-quantitative-and-qualitative-perspectives


Not really relevant that men can't pregnant and it wouldn't be a men's health issue either if that were the case.

Using less than 1% of abortions to justify all abortions is the flaw in logic. Especially since most pro-life people don't oppose abortions when there is risk to mothers health. In contrast, 100% of abortions affect the health of the baby. Woman give many reasons for abortions, but the overwhelming majority of them boil down to a baby being an inconvenience in their life.

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Re: SCotUS Decision on Texas Abortion Regulations
« Reply #40 on: August 15, 2016, 05:03:52 pm »
The consensual sex whether married or not i dont even wanna address.They both reaped what they sowed.They should follow Gods rules its murder.

I feel for the woman who has been raped.As i stated earlier i can understand her feeling i dont wanna have that monsters baby.She has to remember the child can grow up to be president and please God.And many wanna adopt!

I dont buy how many per-cent might be religeous.Gays are getting married in all relgeons.There is NO regard at all for Gods word.Jesus said in last days many would say they were religeous and prove false to its power.

Maybe users of steriods can have that same feeling.My body ill do what i want.Now they get suspended for it.Proven fact drugs kill.And they are cheaters.

Sometimes you suffer to do the right thing.As in the case would we let our child go thru a painful operation to correct something?

Yes i agree with Hawkeye.....its the inconvenience the baby would bring.
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Re: SCotUS Decision on Texas Abortion Regulations
« Reply #41 on: August 16, 2016, 08:42:39 am »
Again, only 0.8% of abortions are because of risks to the health of the mother. That's the extent that it is a woman's health issue.

Until men can get pregnant, it is a health issue that applies to women ONLY.

Her choice is not your business.  Her reasons are not so simple.

https://www.guttmacher.org/about/journals/psrh/2005/reasons-us-women-have-abortions-quantitative-and-qualitative-perspectives


Not really relevant that men can't pregnant and it wouldn't be a men's health issue either if that were the case.

Using less than 1% of abortions to justify all abortions is the flaw in logic. Especially since most pro-life people don't oppose abortions when there is risk to mothers health. In contrast, 100% of abortions affect the health of the baby. Woman give many reasons for abortions, but the overwhelming majority of them boil down to a baby being an inconvenience in their life.


I agree.
It's inconvenient to have a child to feed when you can't feed yourself.
It's inconvenient to have a child when you're homeless, living in your car.
It's inconvenient to have a child when you're fleeing from a man that beats you.
It's inconvenient to have a child when you're raped, and have to drop out of college.  While you're rapist not only continues his education, but the state gives him visitation rights to the child.
It's inconvenient to die in childbirth, but what the heck-women do it every day.

It is a woman's right to determine the course of her own life.  Without justifying her choices to anyone else.
Because when it's all said and done, she is the one who will bear the burden of her choice.

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Re: SCotUS Decision on Texas Abortion Regulations
« Reply #42 on: August 16, 2016, 08:51:51 am »
The consensual sex whether married or not i dont even wanna address.They both reaped what they sowed.They should follow Gods rules its murder.

I feel for the woman who has been raped.As i stated earlier i can understand her feeling i dont wanna have that monsters baby.She has to remember the child can grow up to be president and please God.And many wanna adopt!

I dont buy how many per-cent might be religeous.Gays are getting married in all relgeons.There is NO regard at all for Gods word.Jesus said in last days many would say they were religeous and prove false to its power.

Maybe users of steriods can have that same feeling.My body ill do what i want.Now they get suspended for it.Proven fact drugs kill.And they are cheaters.

Sometimes you suffer to do the right thing.As in the case would we let our child go thru a painful operation to correct something?

Yes i agree with Hawkeye.....its the inconvenience the baby would bring.

The percentages of religious women having abortions are found here: https://www.guttmacher.org/united-states/abortion/demographics

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Re: SCotUS Decision on Texas Abortion Regulations
« Reply #43 on: August 16, 2016, 10:03:44 am »
Paints....what do you mean by religeous woman?Woman who just believe in God?Or someone who lives by HIS word?

If it was the the latter,i can assure you the % of abortions wouldnt be that high!!

Lip service doesnt cut it.Faith without works is dead.


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Re: SCotUS Decision on Texas Abortion Regulations
« Reply #44 on: August 16, 2016, 01:38:03 pm »
Again, only 0.8% of abortions are because of risks to the health of the mother. That's the extent that it is a woman's health issue.

Until men can get pregnant, it is a health issue that applies to women ONLY.

Her choice is not your business.  Her reasons are not so simple.

https://www.guttmacher.org/about/journals/psrh/2005/reasons-us-women-have-abortions-quantitative-and-qualitative-perspectives


Not really relevant that men can't pregnant and it wouldn't be a men's health issue either if that were the case.

Using less than 1% of abortions to justify all abortions is the flaw in logic. Especially since most pro-life people don't oppose abortions when there is risk to mothers health. In contrast, 100% of abortions affect the health of the baby. Woman give many reasons for abortions, but the overwhelming majority of them boil down to a baby being an inconvenience in their life.


I agree.
It's inconvenient to have a child to feed when you can't feed yourself.
It's inconvenient to have a child when you're homeless, living in your car.
It's inconvenient to have a child when you're fleeing from a man that beats you.
It's inconvenient to have a child when you're raped, and have to drop out of college.  While you're rapist not only continues his education, but the state gives him visitation rights to the child.
It's inconvenient to die in childbirth, but what the heck-women do it every day.

It is a woman's right to determine the course of her own life.  Without justifying her choices to anyone else.
Because when it's all said and done, she is the one who will bear the burden of her choice.

There's a baby that will bear the burden of that choice, but it isn't the only choice available.
You can choose abstinence.
You can choose to use protection or any methods of birth control readily available to prevent pregnancy.
You can choose to put the baby up for adoption. There are 36 couples waiting to adopt for every one baby put up for adoption.

Yes, woman die in childbirth. Health risks to the mother account for 0.8% of all abortions. This the fourth time I've acknowledged that. Cases of rape account for 0.3% of abortions. Various other reasons including incest, mental health of the woman, and health of the baby account for 0.6%. That leaves 98.3% of abortions occur when there are (a) two consenting partners, (b) healthy mother
and (c) healthy baby. Given that there are couples out there that would love to raise your child if you choose not do, how is killing the baby even an option? For as much progress as society has made, we are behind the times in this area.

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