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Re: Gorilla killed at the zoo
« Reply #45 on: June 02, 2016, 08:18:28 am »
Blame nobody.  When we visit theme parks, zoos and other man made entertainment mixing wild, speed, instinct etc... we as humans know there is risk involved.  What happened was an accident.  And with the way our world is heading more senseless accidents are going to happen.  As parents we are responsible for our children.  How many parents have had accidents with there own children.. not involving Gorillas - we feel guilty.  Or on the flip side someone get's hurt in our home.  We feel bad.  Lessons learned.  1. The viewing area where the child was able to get through needs immediate attention. 2. Adults all need to be aware of our surroundings.

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« Reply #46 on: June 02, 2016, 02:19:27 pm »
i never lost my kids not once not ever. so i think the parents should be fined,however my daughter is the opposite, she has lost her kids, so she thinks the mom should be forgiven.  honestly tho how can parents lose their children to me thats just neglectful.your children should always come first and be first in your mind no matter what you are doing.

Never had a kid run off and you had to yell at him/her to get back here? I doubt it. The mother turned to her other child who was crying and in seconds the kid took off. It happens. Normally the kid runs to look at something and nothing happens. This kid just happened to jump in a gorilla enclosure.

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« Reply #47 on: June 02, 2016, 02:36:29 pm »
Blame nobody.  When we visit theme parks, zoos and other man made entertainment mixing wild, speed, instinct etc... we as humans know there is risk involved.  What happened was an accident.  And with the way our world is heading more senseless accidents are going to happen.  As parents we are responsible for our children.  How many parents have had accidents with there own children.. not involving Gorillas - we feel guilty.  Or on the flip side someone get's hurt in our home.  We feel bad.  Lessons learned.  1. The viewing area where the child was able to get through needs immediate attention. 2. Adults all need to be aware of our surroundings.

So are you saying that if the mother wasn't on the phone and watching her child instead this wouldn't have happened?

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« Reply #48 on: June 02, 2016, 02:54:11 pm »
Blame nobody.  When we visit theme parks, zoos and other man made entertainment mixing wild, speed, instinct etc... we as humans know there is risk involved.  What happened was an accident.  And with the way our world is heading more senseless accidents are going to happen.  As parents we are responsible for our children.  How many parents have had accidents with there own children.. not involving Gorillas - we feel guilty.  Or on the flip side someone get's hurt in our home.  We feel bad.  Lessons learned.  1. The viewing area where the child was able to get through needs immediate attention. 2. Adults all need to be aware of our surroundings.

So are you saying that if the mother wasn't on the phone and watching her child instead this wouldn't have happened?

She wasn't on her phone when the kid fell in. Why do you keep bringing up something that didn't have anything to do with what happened?

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« Reply #49 on: June 02, 2016, 03:17:48 pm »
Blame could go both ways, but I think the parent should have made sure the child knew that being with an animal at the zoo is dangerous, and had a better watch over the child!
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« Reply #50 on: June 02, 2016, 03:25:19 pm »
Blame nobody.  When we visit theme parks, zoos and other man made entertainment mixing wild, speed, instinct etc... we as humans know there is risk involved.  What happened was an accident.  And with the way our world is heading more senseless accidents are going to happen.  As parents we are responsible for our children.  How many parents have had accidents with there own children.. not involving Gorillas - we feel guilty.  Or on the flip side someone get's hurt in our home.  We feel bad.  Lessons learned.  1. The viewing area where the child was able to get through needs immediate attention. 2. Adults all need to be aware of our surroundings.

So are you saying that if the mother wasn't on the phone and watching her child instead this wouldn't have happened?

She wasn't on her phone when the kid fell in. Why do you keep bringing up something that didn't have anything to do with what happened?

I heard she was on her phone for 42 minutes, and you're sure it didn't happen?....and the kid kept telling his mother what he was going to go in there but it fell on deaf ears, or maybe because she was on the phone and not paying attention to her son.....that is why!!

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« Reply #51 on: June 02, 2016, 04:26:49 pm »
Blame nobody.  When we visit theme parks, zoos and other man made entertainment mixing wild, speed, instinct etc... we as humans know there is risk involved.  What happened was an accident.  And with the way our world is heading more senseless accidents are going to happen.  As parents we are responsible for our children.  How many parents have had accidents with there own children.. not involving Gorillas - we feel guilty.  Or on the flip side someone get's hurt in our home.  We feel bad.  Lessons learned.  1. The viewing area where the child was able to get through needs immediate attention. 2. Adults all need to be aware of our surroundings.

So are you saying that if the mother wasn't on the phone and watching her child instead this wouldn't have happened?

She wasn't on her phone when the kid fell in. Why do you keep bringing up something that didn't have anything to do with what happened?

I heard she was on her phone for 42 minutes, and you're sure it didn't happen?....and the kid kept telling his mother what he was going to go in there but it fell on deaf ears, or maybe because she was on the phone and not paying attention to her son.....that is why!!

The witnesses said she turned to her other child and within seconds the little boy took off. It only takes a split second

Ever been around kids? Happens all the time. Should the parents in this article be arrested as well?
http://www.ijreview.com/2016/06/619390-parents-in-front-of-a-gorilla-enclosure-reveal-what-they-think-about-the-toddler-who-fell-over-one/
“We put one kid down and turn to the other one, and they’re gone. We’ve actually spent the majority of the day chasing our kids and not looking at the animals."

"Another mom actually ran off to chase her own daughter before giving us her name, but explains that if it were her own child, she wouldn’t just sit on the sidelines"

All of this is quite common. I think most parents can relate with those comments from the parents above. What isn't common is the kid jumping into gorilla enclosure to play with them. The kids actions are the only difference in the stories, not the parents. The lynch mob to blame the parents has lost all perspective.

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« Reply #52 on: June 02, 2016, 04:36:23 pm »
Blame nobody.  When we visit theme parks, zoos and other man made entertainment mixing wild, speed, instinct etc... we as humans know there is risk involved.  What happened was an accident.  And with the way our world is heading more senseless accidents are going to happen.  As parents we are responsible for our children.  How many parents have had accidents with there own children.. not involving Gorillas - we feel guilty.  Or on the flip side someone get's hurt in our home.  We feel bad.  Lessons learned.  1. The viewing area where the child was able to get through needs immediate attention. 2. Adults all need to be aware of our surroundings.

So are you saying that if the mother wasn't on the phone and watching her child instead this wouldn't have happened?

She wasn't on her phone when the kid fell in. Why do you keep bringing up something that didn't have anything to do with what happened?

I heard she was on her phone for 42 minutes, and you're sure it didn't happen?....and the kid kept telling his mother what he was going to go in there but it fell on deaf ears, or maybe because she was on the phone and not paying attention to her son.....that is why!!

The witnesses said she turned to her other child and within seconds the little boy took off. It only takes a split second

Ever been around kids? Happens all the time. Should the parents in this article be arrested as well?
http://www.ijreview.com/2016/06/619390-parents-in-front-of-a-gorilla-enclosure-reveal-what-they-think-about-the-toddler-who-fell-over-one/
“We put one kid down and turn to the other one, and they’re gone. We’ve actually spent the majority of the day chasing our kids and not looking at the animals."

"Another mom actually ran off to chase her own daughter before giving us her name, but explains that if it were her own child, she wouldn’t just sit on the sidelines"

All of this is quite common. I think most parents can relate with those comments from the parents above. What isn't common is the kid jumping into gorilla enclosure to play with them. The kids actions are the only difference in the stories, not the parents. The lynch mob to blame the parents has lost all perspective.


Sorry but my kids always stood by me and I made sure of that. Now my Grandkids stay with me as well...I STILL blame the parent, keep an eye on your kids at all times and stay off the phone...period...NOTHING should be more important than your children when you are out and about.

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« Reply #53 on: June 02, 2016, 04:52:45 pm »
Blame nobody.  When we visit theme parks, zoos and other man made entertainment mixing wild, speed, instinct etc... we as humans know there is risk involved.  What happened was an accident.  And with the way our world is heading more senseless accidents are going to happen.  As parents we are responsible for our children.  How many parents have had accidents with there own children.. not involving Gorillas - we feel guilty.  Or on the flip side someone get's hurt in our home.  We feel bad.  Lessons learned.  1. The viewing area where the child was able to get through needs immediate attention. 2. Adults all need to be aware of our surroundings.

So are you saying that if the mother wasn't on the phone and watching her child instead this wouldn't have happened?

She wasn't on her phone when the kid fell in. Why do you keep bringing up something that didn't have anything to do with what happened?

I heard she was on her phone for 42 minutes, and you're sure it didn't happen?....and the kid kept telling his mother what he was going to go in there but it fell on deaf ears, or maybe because she was on the phone and not paying attention to her son.....that is why!!

The witnesses said she turned to her other child and within seconds the little boy took off. It only takes a split second

Ever been around kids? Happens all the time. Should the parents in this article be arrested as well?
http://www.ijreview.com/2016/06/619390-parents-in-front-of-a-gorilla-enclosure-reveal-what-they-think-about-the-toddler-who-fell-over-one/
“We put one kid down and turn to the other one, and they’re gone. We’ve actually spent the majority of the day chasing our kids and not looking at the animals."

"Another mom actually ran off to chase her own daughter before giving us her name, but explains that if it were her own child, she wouldn’t just sit on the sidelines"

All of this is quite common. I think most parents can relate with those comments from the parents above. What isn't common is the kid jumping into gorilla enclosure to play with them. The kids actions are the only difference in the stories, not the parents. The lynch mob to blame the parents has lost all perspective.


Sorry but my kids always stood by me and I made sure of that. Now my Grandkids stay with me as well...I STILL blame the parent, keep an eye on your kids at all times and stay off the phone...period...NOTHING should be more important than your children when you are out and about.

Well your the exception. Give yourself a medal.

Still, are you going charge the parent whose kid run's off just to look at an exhibit? Or runs back to a sandbox? If needing to blame someone helps you sleep at night, so be it.

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« Reply #54 on: June 02, 2016, 05:05:56 pm »
Blame nobody.  When we visit theme parks, zoos and other man made entertainment mixing wild, speed, instinct etc... we as humans know there is risk involved.  What happened was an accident.  And with the way our world is heading more senseless accidents are going to happen.  As parents we are responsible for our children.  How many parents have had accidents with there own children.. not involving Gorillas - we feel guilty.  Or on the flip side someone get's hurt in our home.  We feel bad.  Lessons learned.  1. The viewing area where the child was able to get through needs immediate attention. 2. Adults all need to be aware of our surroundings.

So are you saying that if the mother wasn't on the phone and watching her child instead this wouldn't have happened?

She wasn't on her phone when the kid fell in. Why do you keep bringing up something that didn't have anything to do with what happened?

I heard she was on her phone for 42 minutes, and you're sure it didn't happen?....and the kid kept telling his mother what he was going to go in there but it fell on deaf ears, or maybe because she was on the phone and not paying attention to her son.....that is why!!

The witnesses said she turned to her other child and within seconds the little boy took off. It only takes a split second

Ever been around kids? Happens all the time. Should the parents in this article be arrested as well?
http://www.ijreview.com/2016/06/619390-parents-in-front-of-a-gorilla-enclosure-reveal-what-they-think-about-the-toddler-who-fell-over-one/
“We put one kid down and turn to the other one, and they’re gone. We’ve actually spent the majority of the day chasing our kids and not looking at the animals."

"Another mom actually ran off to chase her own daughter before giving us her name, but explains that if it were her own child, she wouldn’t just sit on the sidelines"

All of this is quite common. I think most parents can relate with those comments from the parents above. What isn't common is the kid jumping into gorilla enclosure to play with them. The kids actions are the only difference in the stories, not the parents. The lynch mob to blame the parents has lost all perspective.


Sorry but my kids always stood by me and I made sure of that. Now my Grandkids stay with me as well...I STILL blame the parent, keep an eye on your kids at all times and stay off the phone...period...NOTHING should be more important than your children when you are out and about.

Well your the exception. Give yourself a medal.

Still, are you going charge the parent whose kid run's off just to look at an exhibit? Or runs back to a sandbox? If needing to blame someone helps you sleep at night, so be it.

No I sleep fine at night regardless. how many kids have to die before you blame a parent? luckily that didn't happen in this case.

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« Reply #55 on: June 02, 2016, 05:18:09 pm »
Blame nobody.  When we visit theme parks, zoos and other man made entertainment mixing wild, speed, instinct etc... we as humans know there is risk involved.  What happened was an accident.  And with the way our world is heading more senseless accidents are going to happen.  As parents we are responsible for our children.  How many parents have had accidents with there own children.. not involving Gorillas - we feel guilty.  Or on the flip side someone get's hurt in our home.  We feel bad.  Lessons learned.  1. The viewing area where the child was able to get through needs immediate attention. 2. Adults all need to be aware of our surroundings.

So are you saying that if the mother wasn't on the phone and watching her child instead this wouldn't have happened?

She wasn't on her phone when the kid fell in. Why do you keep bringing up something that didn't have anything to do with what happened?

I heard she was on her phone for 42 minutes, and you're sure it didn't happen?....and the kid kept telling his mother what he was going to go in there but it fell on deaf ears, or maybe because she was on the phone and not paying attention to her son.....that is why!!

The witnesses said she turned to her other child and within seconds the little boy took off. It only takes a split second

Ever been around kids? Happens all the time. Should the parents in this article be arrested as well?
http://www.ijreview.com/2016/06/619390-parents-in-front-of-a-gorilla-enclosure-reveal-what-they-think-about-the-toddler-who-fell-over-one/
“We put one kid down and turn to the other one, and they’re gone. We’ve actually spent the majority of the day chasing our kids and not looking at the animals."

"Another mom actually ran off to chase her own daughter before giving us her name, but explains that if it were her own child, she wouldn’t just sit on the sidelines"

All of this is quite common. I think most parents can relate with those comments from the parents above. What isn't common is the kid jumping into gorilla enclosure to play with them. The kids actions are the only difference in the stories, not the parents. The lynch mob to blame the parents has lost all perspective.


Sorry but my kids always stood by me and I made sure of that. Now my Grandkids stay with me as well...I STILL blame the parent, keep an eye on your kids at all times and stay off the phone...period...NOTHING should be more important than your children when you are out and about.

Well your the exception. Give yourself a medal.

Still, are you going charge the parent whose kid run's off just to look at an exhibit? Or runs back to a sandbox? If needing to blame someone helps you sleep at night, so be it.

No I sleep fine at night regardless. how many kids have to die before you blame a parent? luckily that didn't happen in this case.

Seriously? It was a tragedy. How many kids have to do die? Seriously? Is there an epidemic of kids jumping into gorilla enclosures? This was a freak accident.
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« Reply #56 on: June 02, 2016, 05:24:44 pm »
Blame nobody.  When we visit theme parks, zoos and other man made entertainment mixing wild, speed, instinct etc... we as humans know there is risk involved.  What happened was an accident.  And with the way our world is heading more senseless accidents are going to happen.  As parents we are responsible for our children.  How many parents have had accidents with there own children.. not involving Gorillas - we feel guilty.  Or on the flip side someone get's hurt in our home.  We feel bad.  Lessons learned.  1. The viewing area where the child was able to get through needs immediate attention. 2. Adults all need to be aware of our surroundings.

So are you saying that if the mother wasn't on the phone and watching her child instead this wouldn't have happened?

She wasn't on her phone when the kid fell in. Why do you keep bringing up something that didn't have anything to do with what happened?

I heard she was on her phone for 42 minutes, and you're sure it didn't happen?....and the kid kept telling his mother what he was going to go in there but it fell on deaf ears, or maybe because she was on the phone and not paying attention to her son.....that is why!!

The witnesses said she turned to her other child and within seconds the little boy took off. It only takes a split second

Ever been around kids? Happens all the time. Should the parents in this article be arrested as well?
http://www.ijreview.com/2016/06/619390-parents-in-front-of-a-gorilla-enclosure-reveal-what-they-think-about-the-toddler-who-fell-over-one/
“We put one kid down and turn to the other one, and they’re gone. We’ve actually spent the majority of the day chasing our kids and not looking at the animals."

"Another mom actually ran off to chase her own daughter before giving us her name, but explains that if it were her own child, she wouldn’t just sit on the sidelines"

All of this is quite common. I think most parents can relate with those comments from the parents above. What isn't common is the kid jumping into gorilla enclosure to play with them. The kids actions are the only difference in the stories, not the parents. The lynch mob to blame the parents has lost all perspective.


Sorry but my kids always stood by me and I made sure of that. Now my Grandkids stay with me as well...I STILL blame the parent, keep an eye on your kids at all times and stay off the phone...period...NOTHING should be more important than your children when you are out and about.

Well your the exception. Give yourself a medal.

Still, are you going charge the parent whose kid run's off just to look at an exhibit? Or runs back to a sandbox? If needing to blame someone helps you sleep at night, so be it.

No I sleep fine at night regardless. how many kids have to die before you blame a parent? luckily that didn't happen in this case.

Seriously? It was a tragedy. How many kids have to do die? Seriously? Is there an epidemic of kids jumping into gorilla enclosures? This was a freak accident.


OMG I'm speaking of in general. It doesn't have to be a gorilla, it could be in traffic if the parent isn't watching their kids....I don't believe I even had to explain this!!

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« Reply #57 on: June 02, 2016, 05:29:17 pm »
Both are at fault, the parents should have been watching the kid but that shouldn't have been able to happen even if the kid wasn't being watched.

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« Reply #58 on: June 02, 2016, 05:33:51 pm »
Blame nobody.  When we visit theme parks, zoos and other man made entertainment mixing wild, speed, instinct etc... we as humans know there is risk involved.  What happened was an accident.  And with the way our world is heading more senseless accidents are going to happen.  As parents we are responsible for our children.  How many parents have had accidents with there own children.. not involving Gorillas - we feel guilty.  Or on the flip side someone get's hurt in our home.  We feel bad.  Lessons learned.  1. The viewing area where the child was able to get through needs immediate attention. 2. Adults all need to be aware of our surroundings.

So are you saying that if the mother wasn't on the phone and watching her child instead this wouldn't have happened?

She wasn't on her phone when the kid fell in. Why do you keep bringing up something that didn't have anything to do with what happened?

I heard she was on her phone for 42 minutes, and you're sure it didn't happen?....and the kid kept telling his mother what he was going to go in there but it fell on deaf ears, or maybe because she was on the phone and not paying attention to her son.....that is why!!

The witnesses said she turned to her other child and within seconds the little boy took off. It only takes a split second

Ever been around kids? Happens all the time. Should the parents in this article be arrested as well?
http://www.ijreview.com/2016/06/619390-parents-in-front-of-a-gorilla-enclosure-reveal-what-they-think-about-the-toddler-who-fell-over-one/
“We put one kid down and turn to the other one, and they’re gone. We’ve actually spent the majority of the day chasing our kids and not looking at the animals."

"Another mom actually ran off to chase her own daughter before giving us her name, but explains that if it were her own child, she wouldn’t just sit on the sidelines"

All of this is quite common. I think most parents can relate with those comments from the parents above. What isn't common is the kid jumping into gorilla enclosure to play with them. The kids actions are the only difference in the stories, not the parents. The lynch mob to blame the parents has lost all perspective.


Sorry but my kids always stood by me and I made sure of that. Now my Grandkids stay with me as well...I STILL blame the parent, keep an eye on your kids at all times and stay off the phone...period...NOTHING should be more important than your children when you are out and about.

Well your the exception. Give yourself a medal.

Still, are you going charge the parent whose kid run's off just to look at an exhibit? Or runs back to a sandbox? If needing to blame someone helps you sleep at night, so be it.

No I sleep fine at night regardless. how many kids have to die before you blame a parent? luckily that didn't happen in this case.

Seriously? It was a tragedy. How many kids have to do die? Seriously? Is there an epidemic of kids jumping into gorilla enclosures? This was a freak accident.


OMG I'm speaking of in general. It doesn't have to be a gorilla, it could be in traffic if the parent isn't watching their kids....I don't believe I even had to explain this!!

There's nothing "in general" about this. It was a freak accident. I don't blame for parents for this. So, in this ONE instance, I didn't blame the parents. You were making the assumption that I never blame the parents. Not sure what basis you have for that? I'll judge any circumstance by the facts individually.

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« Reply #59 on: June 02, 2016, 05:39:05 pm »
Blame nobody.  When we visit theme parks, zoos and other man made entertainment mixing wild, speed, instinct etc... we as humans know there is risk involved.  What happened was an accident.  And with the way our world is heading more senseless accidents are going to happen.  As parents we are responsible for our children.  How many parents have had accidents with there own children.. not involving Gorillas - we feel guilty.  Or on the flip side someone get's hurt in our home.  We feel bad.  Lessons learned.  1. The viewing area where the child was able to get through needs immediate attention. 2. Adults all need to be aware of our surroundings.

So are you saying that if the mother wasn't on the phone and watching her child instead this wouldn't have happened?

She wasn't on her phone when the kid fell in. Why do you keep bringing up something that didn't have anything to do with what happened?

I heard she was on her phone for 42 minutes, and you're sure it didn't happen?....and the kid kept telling his mother what he was going to go in there but it fell on deaf ears, or maybe because she was on the phone and not paying attention to her son.....that is why!!

The witnesses said she turned to her other child and within seconds the little boy took off. It only takes a split second

Ever been around kids? Happens all the time. Should the parents in this article be arrested as well?
http://www.ijreview.com/2016/06/619390-parents-in-front-of-a-gorilla-enclosure-reveal-what-they-think-about-the-toddler-who-fell-over-one/
“We put one kid down and turn to the other one, and they’re gone. We’ve actually spent the majority of the day chasing our kids and not looking at the animals."

"Another mom actually ran off to chase her own daughter before giving us her name, but explains that if it were her own child, she wouldn’t just sit on the sidelines"

All of this is quite common. I think most parents can relate with those comments from the parents above. What isn't common is the kid jumping into gorilla enclosure to play with them. The kids actions are the only difference in the stories, not the parents. The lynch mob to blame the parents has lost all perspective.


Sorry but my kids always stood by me and I made sure of that. Now my Grandkids stay with me as well...I STILL blame the parent, keep an eye on your kids at all times and stay off the phone...period...NOTHING should be more important than your children when you are out and about.

Well your the exception. Give yourself a medal.

Still, are you going charge the parent whose kid run's off just to look at an exhibit? Or runs back to a sandbox? If needing to blame someone helps you sleep at night, so be it.

No I sleep fine at night regardless. how many kids have to die before you blame a parent? luckily that didn't happen in this case.

Seriously? It was a tragedy. How many kids have to do die? Seriously? Is there an epidemic of kids jumping into gorilla enclosures? This was a freak accident.


OMG I'm speaking of in general. It doesn't have to be a gorilla, it could be in traffic if the parent isn't watching their kids....I don't believe I even had to explain this!!

There's nothing "in general" about this. It was a freak accident. I don't blame for parents for this. So, in this ONE instance, I didn't blame the parents. You were making the assumption that I never blame the parents. Not sure what basis you have for that? I'll judge any circumstance by the facts individually.

Ok it was the zoo's fault, they should of had a higher enclosure  around the gorilla area for the STUPID parents who don't watch their kids...happy now..have a good night.

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