Does Micheal Vick Deserve A Second Chance (YES)

[liljp617]

I don't really know what he did, everyone deserves a second chance.

No they don't.  Society must be protected from some individuals.

[remmrek]

yes...he paid his debt.

[abeyta87]

No, I don't think he should get a second chance. He knew what he was doing was wrong, but did it anyway. Celebrities make so much money especially in athletics. I think if they beak the law they should no longer be allowed to play. There are plenty of other people who won't break the law that can take there places. Just my opinion 

No, there are very few people who could rival the athleticism and abilities of a professional athlete.  There's a reason a VERY small minority of people who play sports their entire lives go on to professional leagues.

He broke the law; he did his time.  What more would you like?  His place in the NFL had nothing to do with his actions.

Just out of curiosity, do you even know what the official charges against him were?  Since the trials took place, I've gotten the impression that people who condemn him so harshly don't even know what he was officially convicted of.

Yes I know his official charges And even though you think that killing a dog is not murder I have to disagree with you. No matter that a dog can't stand there and talk english to you or debate you it is still a living thing. And living things should have rights too. And even though his dog fights had nothing to do with his NFL career he is supposed to be a role model. Yes he served his time, but the bottom line is he should have known not to do it in the first place. Yes there are a limited amount of people who have the ability to play pro football but there are many that can and have yet to be discovered I think any pro athlete should get one chance with the insane amount of money they make.

[liljp617]

No, I don't think he should get a second chance. He knew what he was doing was wrong, but did it anyway. Celebrities make so much money especially in athletics. I think if they beak the law they should no longer be allowed to play. There are plenty of other people who won't break the law that can take there places. Just my opinion 

No, there are very few people who could rival the athleticism and abilities of a professional athlete.  There's a reason a VERY small minority of people who play sports their entire lives go on to professional leagues.

He broke the law; he did his time.  What more would you like?  His place in the NFL had nothing to do with his actions.

Just out of curiosity, do you even know what the official charges against him were?  Since the trials took place, I've gotten the impression that people who condemn him so harshly don't even know what he was officially convicted of.

Yes I know his official charges And even though you think that killing a dog is not murder I have to disagree with you. No matter that a dog can't stand there and talk english to you or debate you it is still a living thing. And living things should have rights too. And even though his dog fights had nothing to do with his NFL career he is supposed to be a role model. Yes he served his time, but the bottom line is he should have known not to do it in the first place. Yes there are a limited amount of people who have the ability to play pro football but there are many that can and have yet to be discovered I think any pro athlete should get one chance with the insane amount of money they make.

What were the official charges?

I don't need a dog to speak English to me to know it's not murder.  We are dealing with the court of law, and thus use the legal definition of murder.

To put the definition that is used in the court of law into simple words:  The unlawful killing of another human being without justification or excuse.  Of course, it goes a bit more in depth than this, with different degrees of murder based on intention, malice, etc., but that is the general definition used.  Murder, in court systems in the US, does not apply to anything except humans.  There's no reason to discuss it under any definition without specifically referencing humans; it serves no purpose in this particular discussion to do so.

As I said earlier, I do not condone any animal cruelty or torture, nor am I justifying Vick's taking part in this.  I get sick and angry when I come across videos of animal cruelty in things like factory farms.  I agree animals should have rights as well.  Murder doesn't apply to them in the court of law, however.

He's not supposed to be a role model.  I'd be inclined to say his contract says nothing about being a role model to children.  Some members of society expect him to be a role model, that doesn't mean he's obligated.  He's supposed to entertain with his athletic abilities and win games for his team; in return, he receives a paycheck.  That about sums up his big responsibilities as an NFL player.

There are not "many" people who could have a career in the NFL.  Define many please.  If, by many, you mean an extremely, extremely small percentage of NCAA college players and "minor league" players...sure.  I don't think that's what you mean though and it's still a very small number of people capable.

[dodgers16]

 as long as Vick doesn't play for the Cowboys, I dont care if he comes back

[Cuppycake]

Of course Michael Vick deserves a second chance.  The courts  went overboard giving him a jail sentence of that length.  There are other so called human beings who do a lot worse and get 2nd and 3rd chances.

You have the child molesters living in your neighborhoods, walking free and breathing.

Wow, great point. But I guess the people who say he doesn't deserve the air he breathes don't think child molesters are that bad. 

Or perhaps people feel that the punishments across the board are too light. I certainly think that letting such people as Otty Sanchez live is a travesty. But you know good and !@#$ing well that B17(H will get off light....

[savenger4]

Yes

[dmnelson13]

(Yes) Everybody deserves a second chance.

[Bigzmatt]

 

[liljp617]

Deserving or not, he's been reinstated into the NFL.