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Re: Please explain Noah's Ark to me ...
« Reply #195 on: May 07, 2010, 07:48:40 am »
Now why do you talk such blasphemy? Have you ever read the bible? Have you ever picked it up? What are the first 3 words of the bible?

Let me point you to some scripture since you keep saying we are from dirt.

Genesis 3:19

"By the sweat of your brow you will eat your food until you return to the ground, since from it you were taken; for dust you are and to dust you will return."

STAR DUST ANYONE??

I think blasphemy tastes delicious in the morning.

And once again marieelissa you embarass yourself by being so quick to point fingers and not doing your own friggin' research, because don't you know by now you are going to be called out when you're WRONG?

"Then the LORD God formed man of dust from the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living being." - Genesis 2:7-8
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Re: Please explain Noah's Ark to me ...
« Reply #196 on: May 07, 2010, 08:28:54 am »
First of all, for those that beleive, they don't need any proof, and for those that do, you need to have all kinds of proof.  with that said, yes, there are many inconsistancies in the Bible.  But we must remember that it was written by mortal men, many generations after the events took place.  So the accuracies of every story could be questioned.  I do beleive there was a great flood, and a very good man, who hung on the cross, that part of the bible is consistant.

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Re: Please explain Noah's Ark to me ...
« Reply #197 on: May 07, 2010, 11:42:36 am »
First of all, for those that beleive, they don't need any proof, and for those that do, you need to have all kinds of proof.  with that said, yes, there are many inconsistancies in the Bible.  But we must remember that it was written by mortal men, many generations after the events took place.  So the accuracies of every story could be questioned.  I do beleive there was a great flood, and a very good man, who hung on the cross, that part of the bible is consistant.

You're right, those that don't believe...need proof. but...If you believe the Bible to be 'the word of God" and not just another book of "nice stories and fables" as some do, than proof is really not needed. You just accept it by faith. As far as Biblical Inconsistencies, it may seem inconsistent to you if you look at it from a human "logical" or "intellectual" position but as I mentioned on previous posts, the Bible is a book of Faith. You either believe it or you don't. It is not a book of logic or humanism. You cannot look at it from a "carnal" mindset. That's like saying you can "bind" a spirit with physical chains. It may have been written by mortal men, but men who were "divinely inspired" and guided by God as they wrote it. And as far as the timing as to exactly when they wrote it, scripture teaches that God is timeless. He could have inspired them to write it anytime. That's why Jesus said "I am the same yesterday, today and forever" He is the first and the last, the beginning and the end. And BTW...That "very good man" that hung on the cross, was God "in the flesh" and still is God today!...Jesus, who paid the price for my sin...and yours.  :angel12:
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Re: Please explain Noah's Ark to me ...
« Reply #198 on: May 07, 2010, 01:07:05 pm »
I believe that people take the Bible to literally.  I think they were stories gathered together to be a "moral compass".  I mean if you ask any person today if they believe that a shrub will talk to them, and if it is possible, a majority will tell you no.

I think that if you want to believe in God, He will be satisified if you believe in your way.  You don't have to believe the way man tells you to. Just my opinion, not disagreeing with anyone here...

I do believe in evolution, BTW, but who is to say that God didn't do that too? ;)
Well your right to a degree I'm a spiritual person but I dont believe in the noah's ark story verse its a parable mostly, but I do believe in god, and I mean no disrespect to those who believe in and fallow this story. :peace:

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Re: Please explain Noah's Ark to me ...
« Reply #199 on: May 07, 2010, 03:04:38 pm »
A story Christians stole from the Sumerians??

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Re: Please explain Noah's Ark to me ...
« Reply #200 on: May 08, 2010, 03:08:42 am »
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Re: Please explain Noah's Ark to me ...
« Reply #201 on: May 08, 2010, 03:10:29 am »
 :thumbsup:  Just listen to Bill Cosby's ... NOAH.... and he will explain it all.

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Re: Please explain Noah's Ark to me ...
« Reply #202 on: May 08, 2010, 06:09:46 am »
First of all, for those that beleive, they don't need any proof, and for those that do, you need to have all kinds of proof.  with that said, yes, there are many inconsistancies in the Bible.  But we must remember that it was written by mortal men, many generations after the events took place.  So the accuracies of every story could be questioned.  I do beleive there was a great flood, and a very good man, who hung on the cross, that part of the bible is consistant.

You're right, those that don't believe...need proof. but...If you believe the Bible to be 'the word of God" and not just another book of "nice stories and fables" as some do, than proof is really not needed. You just accept it by faith. As far as Biblical Inconsistencies, it may seem inconsistent to you if you look at it from a human "logical" or "intellectual" position but as I mentioned on previous posts, the Bible is a book of Faith. You either believe it or you don't. It is not a book of logic or humanism. You cannot look at it from a "carnal" mindset. That's like saying you can "bind" a spirit with physical chains. It may have been written by mortal men, but men who were "divinely inspired" and guided by God as they wrote it. And as far as the timing as to exactly when they wrote it, scripture teaches that God is timeless. He could have inspired them to write it anytime. That's why Jesus said "I am the same yesterday, today and forever" He is the first and the last, the beginning and the end. And BTW...That "very good man" that hung on the cross, was God "in the flesh" and still is God today!...Jesus, who paid the price for my sin...and yours.  :angel12:
So basically what you're saying is that you started from the point of the acceptance of faith you were raised around without critical analysis. So if you'd been born to a Muslim family in Egypt, you'd be equally certain of the message Prophet Muhammad received from the archangel Gabriel.

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Re: Please explain Noah's Ark to me ...
« Reply #203 on: May 08, 2010, 06:49:57 am »
So basically what you're saying is that you started from the point of the acceptance of faith you were raised around without critical analysis. So if you'd been born to a Muslim family in Egypt, you'd be equally certain of the message Prophet Muhammad received from the archangel Gabriel.

That's exactly right.   :thumbsup:
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Re: Please explain Noah's Ark to me ...
« Reply #204 on: May 08, 2010, 07:04:54 am »
So basically what you're saying is that you started from the point of the acceptance of faith you were raised around without critical analysis. So if you'd been born to a Muslim family in Egypt, you'd be equally certain of the message Prophet Muhammad received from the archangel Gabriel.

That's exactly right.   :thumbsup:
I'll second that and throw this in the mix. The Inuit Eskimos believe that the moon god, named Aningan, chased his brother, the sun, across the sky, and lives in a giant igloo in the sky. They have no belief in things such as 'Heaven' or 'Hell' either. So it follows that had you been born an Inuit....you can put that one together I believe.
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