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Johnnybucks

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Re: who likes obama?
« Reply #45 on: July 31, 2009, 12:27:13 am »
Obama Accomplishments:

Trying to pass a national energy tax.

Funding embryonic stem cell research.

A terrible healthcare plan.

A stimulus full of pork and has failed to save jobs. ( i.e. millions for  road signs with fancy logo )

Redoing recovery.gov for 18 million.

Making 100 million look like a lot of money in a budget cut.

Repealing the Bush tax cuts.

Breaking 250k no tax promise.

just off the top of my head.


Democrats blocked reform and were responsible for the collapse of the mortgage industry.

Lesser of the two evils. McCain obviously or Obama if your a Socialist.

The GOP has excellent candidates lined up so far for Senate elections in 2010 so expect a comeback.

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« Reply #46 on: July 31, 2009, 01:12:34 am »
Democrats blocked reform and were responsible for the collapse of the mortgage industry.
No they didn't. The reform the Republicans wanted had nothing to do with security swaps.
This sounds like a list of talking points from Glen Beck.
Facts might be nice.

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The GOP has excellent candidates lined up so far for Senate elections in 2010 so expect a comeback.
lol
Expect +1 seat in the senate, and +7 in the house. Gross? +70 dems in congress +18 in senate.
Blunt and Boehner are killing the party.

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Re: who likes obama?
« Reply #47 on: July 31, 2009, 05:16:55 am »
I think that that Obama received a country that is in deep need of help.  We as a country have need to bail out of this mess me are in.  Corporate greed is as I see it one of the main reasons we are where we are today. 

I really thought that Obama might make some good changes for our country that really could use it.  However since he has been in office all I have noticed is trillions of dollars being spent on pet projects and companies that file for bankrupcy.  The bailout was a joke.  Obama is a huge dissappointment in my opinion.

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Re: who likes obama?
« Reply #48 on: July 31, 2009, 05:43:12 am »
Things should be questioned, debated, discussed...I don't see the point in having the mental capacity to do such things if we're going to promote the idea of not using such capacities.

Unfortunately, most human beings do NOT have the capacity to debate things they feel passionately about without criticizing and insulting others and just being hateful in general. I am on Fusion Cash to make some extra money for my family -- not to be insulted because I didn't vote for Obama.

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« Reply #49 on: July 31, 2009, 07:54:07 am »
I didnt vote for him BUT.. Like my momma always said, Im gonna hide in the bushes and watch. He should put his hand over heart for the pledge. But we never like everything about a person, so we shall see. I dont have health care...so that might be nice.

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Re: who likes obama?
« Reply #50 on: July 31, 2009, 08:13:26 am »
I have to give him credit for trying to pass a healthcare plan for all americans.  AHe's put more effort and thought than any other president so far.  The unemployment issue is something else.  he needs to work a little more on that.
do u really like this so called change i mean almost half the world is poor now because of this wonderful change ... whats ur input?
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Re: who likes obama?
« Reply #51 on: July 31, 2009, 09:35:45 am »
i have to say, i do like President Obama. like any other person, i do not agree with everything he says, but overall i know he was the best man for the job.

you must not know anything about Dr. Ron Paul  :sad1: Obama is merely a Puppet they are using to achieve power..

In that case, every President is a puppet.  And to a certain degree, I agree with you...the Presidential seat, thankfully, has only so much power and is strongly influenced by numerous lobbying groups.  That's not the whole story of course.  The President has tons of responsibilities that only he/she can decide upon.  Let's have a short list:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/President_of_the_United_States#Powers_and_duties

Things should be questioned, debated, discussed...I don't see the point in having the mental capacity to do such things if we're going to promote the idea of not using such capacities.

Unfortunately, most human beings do NOT have the capacity to debate things they feel passionately about without criticizing and insulting others and just being hateful in general. I am on Fusion Cash to make some extra money for my family -- not to be insulted because I didn't vote for Obama.

Who insulted you?

If you don't want to discuss the topic, I don't see much point in clicking on the thread...knowing full and well that it was going to be about Obama and going to involve political debate.  If you're here to make money, that's great; you're not obliged to jump into threads you're not interested in.  Some people are capable of discussing this topic calmly and some even happen to enjoy discussing the topic...why shouldn't they?  Just because you say nobody will ever be in agreement?  Nonsense.
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Re: who likes obama?
« Reply #52 on: July 31, 2009, 02:36:43 pm »
ugh..no disrespect obama just sucks. i really do believe he won the election because it was more of a racial thing
rather dan anything. i think he is making really bad decisions for the country and we should kick him out he has spent enough
time in office to prove that he is not a "PATRIOTIC" person neither does he care about our AMERICA. i love politics they keep me entertained. :P
but then again..it was the peoples vote who made him win. we might have to suffer big consequences..i never had and never will be his follower
to me he seeks popularity. and wanted to make history..not help the people! and i think u cannot change the fact
that there will always be RICH PEOPLE MIDDLE CLASS AND POOR.

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Re: who likes obama?
« Reply #53 on: July 31, 2009, 02:47:00 pm »
I like him!!! Hes good for the country...its going to take a long time to undo what Bush did to this country!!! Change will happen!!!

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Re: who likes obama?
« Reply #54 on: July 31, 2009, 09:03:24 pm »
i think he is making really bad decisions for the country and we should kick him out he has spent enough time in office to prove that he is not a "PATRIOTIC" person neither does he care about our AMERICA

People keep saying this, I keep asking for specific examples, and nobody ever replies.  Should I bother asking you for specific examples?  Six to seven months is enough to prove the President of the United States does not care about the nation?  Really?

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Re: who likes obama?
« Reply #55 on: July 31, 2009, 09:29:30 pm »
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Obama Accomplishments:

Trying to pass a national energy tax.

Funding embryonic stem cell research.

A terrible healthcare plan.

A stimulus full of pork and has failed to save jobs. ( i.e. millions for  road signs with fancy logo )

Redoing recovery.gov for 18 million.

Making 100 million look like a lot of money in a budget cut.

Repealing the Bush tax cuts.

Breaking 250k no tax promise.

just off the top of my head.


Democrats blocked reform and were responsible for the collapse of the mortgage industry.

Lesser of the two evils. McCain obviously or Obama if your a Socialist.

The GOP has excellent candidates lined up so far for Senate elections in 2010 so expect a comeback.


I dont beleive in voting for the lesser of two evils, that's the only thing keeping us in this mess of crappy leadership, people voting for the douches who screw them. In a way they get what they deserve, Ill still vote for the person who I think is most fit for the job and has our interests at heart. :) and that would have been Ron Paul! If people actually werent just mindless idiots in mass and waiting for the television to tell them who to vote for without even reading a single document on the candidate, we wouldnt be in such a bad mess... well actually with all the voting fraud, computerized voting and biased polls I guess maybe it still wouldnt matter if your vote is never counted.



you must not know anything about Dr. Ron Paul  :sad1: Obama is merely a Puppet they are using to achieve power..
By whom do you mean "they"?

those who really are in power, such as corporate "sponsors" and other lobbyist aswell as individuals with more political power than the President(s) could ever have...

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People keep saying this, I keep asking for specific examples, and nobody ever replies.  Should I bother asking you for specific examples?  Six to seven months is enough to prove the President of the United States does not care about the nation?  Really?

Marijuana is still illegal and that alone could help end the energy crisis and stimulate the economy to an almost unpredictable amount... the change.org site voted the legalization of marijuana as number 1,2 and 3 most important topic... forcing them to roll it into one category xD haha...yet he still doesnt even really take the topic on unless to parrot the establishment and NOT wanting to legalize... and this is only ONE example of how the voice of the people does not get noticed by him, and he does not do whats best for the country, more whats best for the corporation...

...Also when you are president and have a choice, it doesnt mean its really yours to make with all the lobbying and pressure, this makes the president make DIFFERENT decisions that are not in the best interest of the country but instead the lobbyist. Its a lot like saying "anyone can be president!" Technically its true, but the reality is not the case.. not only do you need a ton of money, but you need to know the right people and get the right lobbyist. No honest man makes it to the president of the USA, that;s now what they are looking for in this job position.

 

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Re: who likes obama?
« Reply #56 on: July 31, 2009, 10:24:21 pm »
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People keep saying this, I keep asking for specific examples, and nobody ever replies.  Should I bother asking you for specific examples?  Six to seven months is enough to prove the President of the United States does not care about the nation?  Really?

Marijuana is still illegal and that alone could help end the energy crisis and stimulate the economy to an almost unpredictable amount... the change.org site voted the legalization of marijuana as number 1,2 and 3 most important topic... forcing them to roll it into one category xD haha...yet he still doesnt even really take the topic on unless to parrot the establishment and NOT wanting to legalize... and this is only ONE example of how the voice of the people does not get noticed by him, and he does not do whats best for the country, more whats best for the corporation...

...Also when you are president and have a choice, it doesnt mean its really yours to make with all the lobbying and pressure, this makes the president make DIFFERENT decisions that are not in the best interest of the country but instead the lobbyist. Its a lot like saying "anyone can be president!" Technically its true, but the reality is not the case.. not only do you need a ton of money, but you need to know the right people and get the right lobbyist. No honest man makes it to the president of the USA, that;s now what they are looking for in this job position.

Do you think Obama could legitimately come out in a press conference and start a serious proposal of legalizing marijuana without people throwing tomatoes at him (not to be taken literally)?  I don't.  It's something that should be dealt with in Congress, and there are currently many people in Congress pushing for legalization.  Unfortunately you have pharmacy companies lobbying constantly with many corrupt politicians in their pockets.  It's not something Obama can even legitimately touch without having people go crazy.  That issue is one more cut out for Congress; he would get crucified by the propaganda-spreading idiots if he even opened his mouth about it and started seriously campaigning for it.

Anyway, I really don't know how that example makes him "unpatriotic" and means he "doesn't care about the nation."

You did the same thing as a number of other people.  You said "he does not do what's best for the country."  What doesn't he do, that he could, as President, legitimately take on?  Legalizing marijuana was dealt with, what other specific examples are there.

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Re: who likes obama?
« Reply #57 on: July 31, 2009, 10:47:32 pm »
so youre basically saying Obama is not doing whats right because people will go crazy? Who are these people? haha. the corporations thats who... the majority of the people would support it, and those who didnt, would just *bleep* about it like everyone else.. the point is, Does Obama do whats best for the people? or does he do whats best for his corporate image and financial backers?  He even spoke in support for legalization years ago... now he actually says he WOULDNT support it, so he is not just leaving it to Congress, he is saying loud and clear "I do not support it" which is much worse... If Congress is too corrupt, this is also something Obama should deal with, should be asking the question... why isnt Congress listenig to the people they represent? why not even a vote? It;s obvious, Obama is supporting the agenda that has been here for decades, and not legalizing Marijuana is a big part of it... if he were to work with a campain group and the media and they were to use the propaganda machine to promote the use of hemp as fuel, clothing, food, packaging, medicine etc. They could easily sell it to the mass public who basically buys anything the media tells them or their favorite television star supports. (couple PSA's?).  Marijuana was not dealt with haha, but also reducing taxes, increasing minimum wages, and here are some big ones,... restoring the constitution and repealing the patriot act and military commissions report... honestly if you want to know, just go to any of the big issues that he promises to deal with and see how they are being fixed... I dont know about you but I know more people getting pay cuts and losing benefits, or even their jobs or homes, than I see getting new jobs... Basically all we have is a great speaker who tries to say what everyone wants to hear without saying or doing anything substantial... the entire economy needs  a revamp, the fed needs to be audited to get clean books etc. So many things I could go on for days..

The main thing is the mass population is herded like sheep not to abuse the analogy which is used all the time, and whatever the government and media machine want to sell the public, for the most part they will go along with... or ignore and just *bleep* about it as they always do with the government.. they will do what they want... start a war in IRAQ when nobody wants it? mass marketting and selling of a war goes on and they just do it... still majority dont want the war, but it takes place and the only thing the government worries about is some bad polls for the president and a couple small protests they are sure to report in a very bad light... The same would go if they wanted to sell Marijuana as a new fuel, economy booster, and actually problem solver of ENDLESS things... but they wont, because who owns them... Obama is just another employee and nothing more, he does as he is told, and yes he can make some decisions, but those will be guided by his lobbyists, the consequences of who he is effecting who may effect him in turn, and then maybe as a final after thought, what is best for the average citizen? haha but our welfare has very little impact on his decision, its mostly "what does this look like to the people? maybe we can change the vocabulary and turn a bailout into a stimulous! that sounds better... and torture is bad, so lets keep up the "pressure"" haha its all a political game of lying and screwing over the masses so the few can benefit and become more powerful in all areas including economically.

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Re: who likes obama?
« Reply #58 on: August 01, 2009, 12:36:56 am »
I love President Obama. I think he's doing the best under the circumstances.

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« Reply #59 on: August 01, 2009, 01:12:21 am »
Our country is a mess because of decisions made long before Obama ran for President. Is it Obama's fault that Wall Street made so many risky investments? Last I heard, Obama wasn't the CEO of Goldman Sachs or AIG. Did Obama cause the housing crisis? It was George Bush and his creatures who encouraged Americans to pay for homes they couldn't afford with subprime mortgages. Alphonso Jackson, his Assistant Secretary of HUD, traveled the country giving speeches about how subprime mortgages were a wonderful vehicle to get people who previously couldn't afford to be homeowners. My husband heard one of those speeches 7 or 8 years ago and couldn't believe how ridiculous and  dangerous this policy was. And now here we are, it's August, 2009 and many of the same irresponsible fools who took Mr. Jackson's advice are whining about "the Obama recession."

 Finally, we have a president who has the intelligence, guts, and good moral character to get this country back on track to its former glory, and all these  big babies can do is pick at him because, in their child-like lizard brains, he should have magically "fixed" within his first 100 days of office all the problems THEY helped to cause . Grow the f*** up!!!!!!!

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