Are Athiests right or are they going to burn in hell with the rest of the sinner

[BMaston12]

I am a true believer in a force/forces that are clearly greater than all of us. I choose not to subscribe to a particular religious doctrine because I believe that God/Goddess is more powerful than man's finite comprehension of the universe and the true machinations of celestial bodies and the universe. I do not disagree with religion as a whole because usually at the core I personally find that there are fundamental differences but they all pretty much say the same thing. You have to honor God and be good to one another. I get it. I don't knock anyone;s belief system, but at the same time I hate to get brow-beaten into submission by an overbearing zealot who has no room for compromise or any respect for what I may believe. I simply refuse to believe that man has the answer. We'll all find out when we die though.

I think you are right about Man not having the answer. We will find out when we die. Some things we have to accept by faith. This does not go far to prove an argument. Actions speaklouderthan any words!
BMaston12

[hitch0403]

So i am supposed to honor the terrorists for slamming planes into a building cos they thought or believed Their god approved?

I was brought up a catholic.I loved Xmas.But i could never undersstand how a loving god could punish his creation in hellfire.Fortunately I found bible truths that showed thats BS!!You wanna woship a god that would do that be my guest.Its only Satans way of blinding many the truth about Jehovah.

There are NO compromises with Jehovah.God bless america is a bunch of BS too.The bible says God isnt partial

Like i said.....there are no compromises.There is truth acceptable to God and there isnt.

Jesus condemned the pharissees with good reason.They didnt accept him as the son of God coming in the seed spoke of thru out Old testament.They rejected him and killed him.Dont bring up Jewish traditions please.While the Israelites were Gods chosen people thru out Old testament that all changed with Jesus dying now.The law changed.And even tho they were favored in OT God still punished them when they disobeyed then too.

IT is very wise to examine your religeon.Stop deciding how Jehovah wants to be served or obeyed.You guys cant even refer to him as his name.Not too personable to someone we should love and as Jesus said used his name all the time to identify him as ONLY true God.

[hitch0403]

And yes i will condemn the catholic religeon.You walk in and see dead slabs of concrete and wood and many bow down to them.

Do you need a refresher course on how God feels about idols?

I wont bother getting into trinity or the soul blah blah......You wanna hold fast to that BS and claim to preach bible...well then pardon me for correction but...........

[hitch0403]

If you have love among yourselves and worship God with spirit and truth.This statement Jesus identifys as his true followers.

Catholics and Protestants killing each other durings wars and what other conflicts in the name of religeon have gone on?

Its EZ to see why many are turned off by relgeon cos of these conflicts.God gets blamed when HE actually has NOTHING to do with them.Mankind thru satans rules........

whole world lies in power of wicked one says bible.

[ancmetro]

   And Who is right?
           Who is wrong?
   Only GOD knows!

[debidoo]

Hmmn well there is a bible verse that says we should work out our own salvation.  I personally believe in God and Jesus but I don't force my beliefs on anyone and I don't want anyone forcing theirs on me.  I guess I have a live and let live philosophy regarding all aspects of life including spirituality.

[BK_Adores_Chase]

Linderlizzie.....all beliefs SHOULDNT BE HONORED!!!!

Did Jesus honor what the Pharisseess believed in?NOOO...he condemned them

Umm... Wrong... Although Jesus didn't honor some of the practices of the Pharisees, he still held to the Jewish beliefs and customs throughout his life. There is a big difference between honoring a belief structure and honoring people that are supposed to lead others in that belief... Even though I am disgusted by the child molestation done by some Catholic priests, it doesn't mean that I therefore also reject the beliefs of Catholicism.

Also there is a difference between believing something, honoring something, and condemning something. I can honor and treat anyone with dignity even if I don't completely believe in what they believe in. Jesus was known for for honoring those that others had called sinners... The story of the Good Samaritan is important in that by definition a Samaritan held beliefs that were different than a Judean's and yet it was the Samaritan that acted in the most God-like manner.

Finally, all of the stories that you presented as arguments against not honoring others beliefs are judgements that God made, not condemnations made by us against another, fellow human. Since none of us are God nor do we know what God's will is, how can we make judgements against someone else for not adhering to God's will, esp. as it pertains to a person's beliefs. Neither God nor Jesus said that the only "true" religion is Catholic, or Lutheran, or Jehovah's Witness and so we as fallible humans shouldn't attempt to make such concrete statements as to what is the "true" faith, and to dishonor and condemn all others as pagan.

Jesus didn't honor their beliefs and customs..?  He blatantly broke their customs.  The Jews believed that what they did would grant them a spot in heaven.. Jesus did not honor that belief because that belief was wrong.  He specifically healed a lame man on the Sabbath AKA worked on the Sabbath, a big no no in their book - in the book of Matthew He called the Pharisees hypocrites 6 or more times.  Their customs were countless and Jesus didn't care about any of them.  In John 4 when He talks to the Samaritan woman, Jews NEVER spoke to women (not even in their family) ESPECIALLY Samaritans, man or woman, because the Jews deemed them unclean and heaven forbid that they interact with them lest they become unclean, also.  I could go on and on..

[BK_Adores_Chase]

And you should reject the Catholic religion because it's a cult.  All religions are cults.  They are mans way of getting into heaven.  Catholics say good works get you into heaven - the Bible says good works are like a filthy rag to God - why would He let you exchange a filthy rag for heaven?  That makes no sense.

True Christians, AKA non-denomination Calvinists (not religious, not a religion, faith alone in Christ alone) know that there's NOTHING we can do to get into heaven.  Thus God gets the glory.  We love God for what He has done and because of our love for Him we want to do good works to show our love.

Catholics selfishly do good works, not for God, but for themselves so they make sure they can get to heaven - which, they aren't.

[BK_Adores_Chase]

And the Bible tells us that we ARE TO JUDGE professing believers who follow a false doctrine - to those who outright say, "I don't believe in God" we are not to judge them.

[inertia4]

Well now, I doubt anyone is right or wrong about after death. No one really knows for sure. I do believe that the universe is vast and that we most likely become part of the energy within the universe.

[pwvogt]

Don't mind a little quicksand once in a while 

There are many things that are likely beyond our comprehension.  For example, the universe is a whole is unknowable to us in its entirety.  Does that make the universe God?  As an atheist I am quite happy to accept that we are questing beings and that some answers may never be known.  I don't think we have to invent God to accept our nature.

[crisstar]

Who knows...

Atheists and those who are religious and/or believe in god won't know for sure til death becomes them. We can only speculate at best and no one has any solid answer one way or another.

It's not something I spend my time worrying about though...

[hitch0403]

For those that support the bible let me ask this question.....

Why do you think God wrote it and wanted mankind to have it?Obviously so mankind could learn and be taught etc.Why do you think he had prophets or send his son <Jesus> to us?Same answer right?

But we see christendom has many different interpetations of bible.They all cant be right....right?

So as i have said many times....Jesus is God or hes separate from Jehovah.The trinity exists or it doesnt.The soul dies ar death or it doesnt......and so on.....these sayings we will find out at death blah blah.....or as long as you believe blah blah..isnt what God wanted for mankind otherwise why even write the bible?

If people wanna think just to believe in Christ they will be saved and go to heaven i strongly suggest they use discernment and read bible over with one who teaches the true word of God.Not all do and your heart will make God understand how important HIS word is to you cos HE does see the make-up of us all.

With all the differences of opinions here lets face it......we all cant be right!!

Discernment!!

[hitch0403]

Debido...if you lived in the time of Noah and you told him as many did.....GET lost...dont force your beliefs on me....Guess what?

YOU died!!!

Just as today......bible says todays times are just like Noahs....a warning is being sounded this satanice system is going down and salvation is out there for those if they obey Gods word.

And in Revelation the warning is "Get outta Babylon the Great"...the religeous system  man and satan have built up.The writing is on the wall.

[JediJohnnie]

And you should reject the Catholic religion because it's a cult.  All religions are cults.  They are mans way of getting into heaven.  Catholics say good works get you into heaven - the Bible says good works are like a filthy rag to God - why would He let you exchange a filthy rag for heaven?  That makes no sense.

True Christians, AKA non-denomination Calvinists (not religious, not a religion, faith alone in Christ alone) know that there's NOTHING we can do to get into heaven.  Thus God gets the glory.  We love God for what He has done and because of our love for Him we want to do good works to show our love.

Catholics selfishly do good works, not for God, but for themselves so they make sure they can get to heaven - which, they aren't.

Being non-denominational myself,I agree that "religion" is man-made and Jesus did away with regulations,quite famously before the Pharisees. Catholicism is generally not regarded as a cult,though.Despite their emphasis on works/Mary/purgatory,etc,they don't pervert doctrine.They acknowledge  the Divinity of Christ.