Are you an evolutionist or a creationist and why

[BJohnsonPP]

This is why sometimes, all I can do is make fun. It's impossible to have a discussion or debate with a brick wall. But of course, I'm the a-hole at that point

Don't let their insecurities stop you from discussing with the other people here who are actually interested in the topic!

Don't worry, never have, never will. 

[mythociate]

So you've seen STAR WARS & I've STAR WARS, therefore The Force must be the ultimate power in the universe :-?

Huh? No- I'd hope to think we both know it's a fictitious movie. ...

How do we KNOW it's fictitious? How do we KNOW George Lucas wasn't recounting the actual history of 'a galaxy far-far away'?

[BJohnsonPP]

So you've seen STAR WARS & I've STAR WARS, therefore The Force must be the ultimate power in the universe :-?

Huh? No- I'd hope to think we both know it's a fictitious movie. ...

How do we KNOW it's fictitious? How do we KNOW George Lucas wasn't recounting the actual history of 'a galaxy far-far away'?

If he stated this, he would have to provide evidence for it. He hasn't stated it, therefore there's no reason to even consider it. The burden of proof would fall on him since he's the one making that claim. Until he fulfills his burden, there's no reason to take it seriously.

I can see now, you're just going to start delving into solipsism which will lead to a pretty pointless conversation.

[mythociate]

So you've seen STAR WARS & I've STAR WARS, therefore The Force must be the ultimate power in the universe :-?

Huh? No- I'd hope to think we both know it's a fictitious movie. ...

How do we KNOW it's fictitious? How do we KNOW George Lucas wasn't recounting the actual history of 'a galaxy far-far away'?

If he stated this, he would have to provide evidence for it. He hasn't stated it, therefore there's no reason to even consider it. The burden of proof would fall on him since he's the one making that claim. Until he fulfills his burden, there's no reason to take it seriously.

I can see now, you're just going to start delving into solipsism which will lead to a pretty pointless conversation.

Solipsism ... :-P ... Soooooooooooooo-Lipz :-P ...

Maybe I am ... sounds fun ... Did George Lucas ever 'state' that it WAS fictitious?

[BJohnsonPP]

Solipsism ... :-P ... Soooooooooooooo-Lipz :-P ...

Maybe I am ... sounds fun ... Did George Lucas ever 'state' that it WAS fictitious?

Only if spinning around in circles is your idea of fun.

He wouldn't have to state that it's fictitious, he'd only have to state if it was not. If this were not the case, you'd have to put "not based on a true story" on most movies. Movies were created to put people's imaginations on display. So, the default would be "fictitious unless stated otherwise".

[mythociate]

He wouldn't have to state that it's fictitious, he'd only have to state if it was not. If this were not the case, you'd have to put "not based on a true story" on most movies. Movies were created to put people's imaginations on display. So, the default would be "fictitious unless stated otherwise".

Is this a 'law' written somewhere official?

[Falconer02]

Is this a 'law' written somewhere official?

In the realms of reality! It should be common sense. But I mean...if you're on shrooms...whateva!

[mythociate]

Is this a 'law' written somewhere official?

In the realms of reality! It should be common sense. But I mean...if you're on shrooms...whateva!

Hmm ... maybe the Shrooms-World is the real, & we're all just sharing in one boring dream! (Like in Christopher Nolan's INCEPTION), Hmm?

[BJohnsonPP]

Is this a 'law' written somewhere official?

In the realms of reality! It should be common sense. But I mean...if you're on shrooms...whateva!

Hmm ... maybe the Shrooms-World is the real, & we're all just sharing in one boring dream! (Like in Christopher Nolan's INCEPTION), Hmm?

Aaaand there's your solipsism. We're all just living in a dream because all that exists is our minds and yadda yadda...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solipsism

...like a dream, the solipsist's subconscious mind creates a world which the solipsist's conscious mind might not have chosen but has no control over changing.

This, like I said before, leads to a pointless conversation, because we still would have to adhere to the rules of the world we do exist in. So if we're trapped in the mind of just one person, a big red dog, or the interactions of several minds, all that matters is the rules of the world we do exist in no matter what that world is.

[mythociate]

Is this a 'law' written somewhere official?

In the realms of reality! It should be common sense. But I mean...if you're on shrooms...whateva!

Hmm ... maybe the Shrooms-World is the real, & we're all just sharing in one boring dream! (Like in Christopher Nolan's INCEPTION), Hmm?

Aaaand there's your solipsism. We're all just living in a dream because all that exists is our minds and yadda yadda...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solipsism

...like a dream, the solipsist's subconscious mind creates a world which the solipsist's conscious mind might not have chosen but has no control over changing.

This, like I said before, leads to a pointless conversation, because we still would have to adhere to the rules of the world we do exist in. So if we're trapped in the mind of just one person, a big red dog, or the interactions of several minds, all that matters is the rules of the world we do exist in no matter what that world is.

So ... is that created-ed or evolveded-ed?

[stretch1967]

Not sure

[mythociate]

Not sure

Well, "whom do ye serve?" What do they say you are?

[ro901]

I was brainwashed by my Christian family after being adopted from my Native American family at age 6. By the time I was 8, I had realized inside myself that
"something just didn't ring true" and I felt I was being lied to. The brainwashing has taken many years to undo. I still suffer from some of the effects but after
50 years of life here on this plane, I now feel certain that humans evolved or even were brought here by some other life form from some other planet. I do not
believe there is any god.

[mythociate]

I was brainwashed by my Christian family after being adopted from my Native American family at age 6. By the time I was 8, I had realized inside myself that
"something just didn't ring true" and I felt I was being lied to. The brainwashing has taken many years to undo. I still suffer from some of the effects but after
50 years of life here on this plane, I now feel certain that humans evolved or even were brought here by some other life form from some other planet. I do not
believe there is any god.

I agree that god(s) (who are supernatural people) are kind of 'blame-mules' for humans, ever since (Moses's storybook-character) Adam's "this woman you gave me"-nonsense.

god has been used as a blame-mule not just for people who 'don't want to feel guilty about hurt they do unto others,' but also for people who 'don't want to be "held responsible" for GOOD things they show people (like when Jesus told most of the people He healed NOT to tell others about the miracles He had done).'

[skinnygwenny]

I am an evolutionist because I believe in the laws of evolution.