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potluck6

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Are you an evolutionist or a creationist and why
« on: November 11, 2013, 08:27:50 pm »
Watching Steven Meyers a creationist and he makes some good points about DNA having to be thought of and not just random chance.I also like some things that Richard Dawkins has said he's a big evolutionist.Got his book the Blind Watch Maker it's confusing have to try reading it harder like with no distractions .

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Re: Are you an evolutionist or a creationist and why
« Reply #1 on: November 12, 2013, 10:17:06 am »
Evolutionist = a scientist who explains modern biology through natural means, rigorous testing, and evidences. This term is able to improve it's viewpoint on the subject if it is proven wrong.

Creationist = a fundamental religious person who must tie all modern science through ancient mythology and supernatural unproven claims, w/o rigorous testing or evidences. Though the term is seemingly scientific, it is not actual science. This term ignores the contrary evidences and will crumble if proven wrong (or attempt to jerry-rig itself into the evidence to make it seem true).

I'm an evolutionist because I'm not a delusional fundamentalist.

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Re: Are you an evolutionist or a creationist and why
« Reply #2 on: November 13, 2013, 11:31:39 am »
Evolutionist = a scientist who explains modern biology through natural means, rigorous testing, and evidences. This term is able to improve it's viewpoint on the subject if it is proven wrong.

Creationist = a fundamental religious person who must tie all modern science through ancient mythology and supernatural unproven claims, w/o rigorous testing or evidences. Though the term is seemingly scientific, it is not actual science. This term ignores the contrary evidences and will crumble if proven wrong (or attempt to jerry-rig itself into the evidence to make it seem true).

I'm an evolutionist because I'm not a delusional fundamentalist.

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Re: Are you an evolutionist or a creationist and why
« Reply #3 on: November 13, 2013, 03:43:14 pm »
I believe the bible is Gods word to mankind and explains and answers all of the questions.I do not believe in evolution.

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Re: Are you an evolutionist or a creationist and why
« Reply #4 on: November 14, 2013, 10:43:40 am »
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I believe the bible is Gods word to mankind and explains and answers all of the questions.I do not believe in evolution.

Does it? The Genesis flood- Where did all that water come from? And where did it go? Water falling that fast and for that period of time would have killed all surface life on earth through carbon monoxide emissions pretty quickly. Can you logically explain how this event happened w/o all the elementary problems in the way?
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Re: Are you an evolutionist or a creationist and why
« Reply #5 on: November 14, 2013, 01:04:04 pm »
Hi Falconer2....with faith you can move a mountain.

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Re: Are you an evolutionist or a creationist and why
« Reply #6 on: November 15, 2013, 01:39:53 am »
I'm certainly a creationist.There can be no doubt that a creation must have a creator.Anything as complex and wondrous as life and eternity and the human soul could not be a function of random chance.Common sense alone dictates that something cannot come from nothing.

It takes less faith to see the Creator behind the creation,than to believe we're all a product of evolution.A process that is neither provable or sensible. 

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Re: Are you an evolutionist or a creationist and why
« Reply #7 on: November 15, 2013, 09:39:51 pm »
I believe in God and Jesus Christ.  I guess that makes me a creationist.
To my knowledge the scientist have not been able to create life, not even an omeba.

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Re: Are you an evolutionist or a creationist and why
« Reply #8 on: November 28, 2013, 09:14:20 pm »
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Hi Falconer2....with faith you can move a mountain.

Plate tectonics can move mountains! Faith? Nope.

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It takes less faith to see the Creator behind the creation,than to believe we're all a product of evolution.A process that is neither provable or sensible. 

Evolution has a vast amount of evidence, and has been proven to happen. Here's some examples-
http://listverse.com/2011/11/19/8-examples-of-evolution-in-action/

There's a reason they're teaching it at younger ages now. Every day there's something new found in the fossil record! It explains a lot of the education of an individual when one puts mythical stories and mysticism in front of reality and honest research.
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Re: Are you an evolutionist or a creationist and why
« Reply #9 on: November 29, 2013, 08:14:00 am »
A vreationist. I love to create things. I also like to solve things. I guess i watch too many cop, er storoes etc.

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Re: Are you an evolutionist or a creationist and why
« Reply #10 on: November 29, 2013, 03:24:39 pm »
I'm a little bit of both. I believe the stories in the bible are based in truth, if filled with a lot of poetic license. Most of the people who lived at the time of those stories didn't know that there were other continents, or that the world is round for that matter. A major flood of the local area would seem like the world was ending to them.There is a thread of child like innocence in the way the stories and tales are written that speaks towards the lack of knowledge that has come to light since the stories were written. I also believe in the evolution of species. There is tangible proof of how old the earth and extinct animals are. DNA can show the sequencing of species back to the origins. Who's to say God didn't start with dinos millions of years ago, and put in place the process of evolution for species to follow. Modern humans are approaching several ten thousand years old, the people who lived through the time of the bible are just a  thousand years old. Where is the time in between the first humans to the biblical humans counted?Where does that put the  dinos, ect. that were here millions of years ago? This can not just be dismissed.

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Re: Are you an evolutionist or a creationist and why
« Reply #11 on: November 30, 2013, 09:14:31 pm »
Alpha Centauri is a visible star 50 light yrs away right?Now a light year is 186000 miles per sec correct?So if we are able to see the light from AC the creative days in Genesis certainly were QUITE LONG!!

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Re: Are you an evolutionist or a creationist and why
« Reply #12 on: December 01, 2013, 06:40:50 am »
Evolution has evidence to support it, creationism doesn't. If you have to appeal to faith and not evidence, you've already lost the argument.

If you say "creation must have a creator" and don't immediately see the flaw in that "argument", you're not fit to even be a part of the discussion. It's called begging the question. You're assuming your conclusion in your argument. If I start with the unsubstantiated belief that we're the product of aliens, well, I can say: "Alien offspring must have alien predecessors, therefore aliens must exist".

Stop. Start all over. Get a clue. 

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Re: Are you an evolutionist or a creationist and why
« Reply #13 on: December 01, 2013, 08:19:59 pm »
Nothing can come from nothing.It's a mathematical impossibility.You might want to take your own advice.

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Re: Are you an evolutionist or a creationist and why
« Reply #14 on: December 01, 2013, 09:28:08 pm »
I don't believe in the bible and I don't really believe we evolved from apes so I guess I'm not sure what to believe.

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