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bobes915

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IRS Scandal
« on: May 14, 2013, 09:24:12 pm »
What is the best coverage/story that you have read/seen on the IRS Scandal?  I have only read a few articles from the whole political spectrum, but I was a little surprised by the piece on Politico about Washington turning on the president. 

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Re: IRS Scandal
« Reply #1 on: May 15, 2013, 11:54:29 am »
What is the best coverage/story that you have read/seen on the IRS Scandal?  I have only read a few articles from the whole political spectrum, but I was a little surprised by the piece on Politico about Washington turning on the president. 

I've read a lot of stories on this scandal.  I think the part I like BEST is how the main stream media is starting to wake up to the facts of ALL the scandals that are going on right now, and how they're figuring out that not even they are safe anymore.  That'll learn 'em, dearn 'em!

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Re: IRS Scandal
« Reply #2 on: May 15, 2013, 03:13:27 pm »
Just more of the democrats bs that has been going on. Maybe the mainstream media will wake up one of hese days go to reporting all the facts instead of just what they are told. All of the scandals are comming back to haunt someone.

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Re: IRS Scandal
« Reply #3 on: May 15, 2013, 07:18:23 pm »
I have no clue as to what it is all about. :confused1: :dontknow:

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Re: IRS Scandal
« Reply #4 on: May 16, 2013, 07:19:02 am »
I have no clue as to what it is all about. :confused1: :dontknow:

Basically it came out that the IRS was targeting conservative groups for special scrutiny during the last presidential election. Now there are going to be congressional hearings on the issue and President Obama is calling for those responsible to be fired. Already, the chief tax adviser at the IRS has been fired over the scandal. Here is an article from Reuters that talks about it:
http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/05/16/us-usa-obama-irs-statement-idUSBRE94E1EA20130516

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Re: IRS Scandal
« Reply #5 on: May 18, 2013, 09:06:49 pm »
I was saying this all IRS candles in the book the scandals that Obama has caused it shows that he is in and in lousy stupid president we've ever had.. If a bit Republican in the almost scandals between a written the embassy be run over and killing being killed when he could have stopped it but he was too busy being a politician Senate President. You should assent troops and a first upwardly bad under siege
point and now the IRS schedule who are targeting conservative groups to be audited and make them pay for it when it is just as corrupt liberals that he is listed in all the crap like his fellow people in Chicago against all the good welfare money and then changes and in booze and drugs and other things in the excellent and Mrs. Clinton's insistence for the embassy has Obama is she was in charge of the make or at the time should have been aware of what is going on but she was out Politicking with Obama trying to get him reelected She Could Love reelection next yearthe value of election  I don't trust Obama no more than I double crooked as a drunken sailor!
« Last Edit: May 18, 2013, 09:11:40 pm by bigedshult »

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Re: IRS Scandal
« Reply #6 on: May 19, 2013, 09:42:50 am »
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I was saying this all IRS candles in the book the scandals that Obama has caused it shows that he is in and in lousy stupid president we've ever had.. If a bit Republican in the almost scandals between a written the embassy be run over and killing being killed when he could have stopped it but he was too busy being a politician Senate President. You should assent troops and a first upwardly bad under siege
point and now the IRS schedule who are targeting conservative groups to be audited and make them pay for it when it is just as corrupt liberals that he is listed in all the crap like his fellow people in Chicago against all the good welfare money and then changes and in booze and drugs and other things in the excellent and Mrs. Clinton's insistence for the embassy has Obama is she was in charge of the make or at the time should have been aware of what is going on but she was out Politicking with Obama trying to get him reelected She Could Love reelection next yearthe value of election  I don't trust Obama no more than I double crooked as a drunken sailor!

Wow. Please proof read your sentences after you write your post.

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Re: IRS Scandal
« Reply #7 on: May 22, 2013, 08:34:50 am »
i don't get what is so wrong with the irs looking more closely  at groups whose main belief is they should not have to pay taxes. the government looks at terror groups who want to kill people, police look into gangs who want to commit crimes, there is nothing wrong with looking into any group who say if they could they would break the law. also how can anyone say this political when the woman who was in charge is a republican appointed by george bush. if your job is to enforce the law it is easier to do that by looking it the people who say they want to break it.
Learn from yesterday, live for today, hope for tomorrow. The important thing is not to stop questioning.-Albert Einstein

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Re: IRS Scandal
« Reply #8 on: May 22, 2013, 09:36:39 am »
i don't get what is so wrong with the irs looking more closely  at groups whose main belief is they should not have to pay taxes. the government looks at terror groups who want to kill people, police look into gangs who want to commit crimes, there is nothing wrong with looking into any group who say if they could they would break the law. also how can anyone say this political when the woman who was in charge is a republican appointed by george bush. if your job is to enforce the law it is easier to do that by looking it the people who say they want to break it.

This line of thinking scares me to death! Maybe this is due to lack of knowledge of just what has happened here. This is NOT a case of people trying to avoid paying taxes unduly. This is a case of the administration using the power of a government agency to persecute those groups and INDIVIDUALS they deem to be enemies. In this case denying the groups the exact same rights and privileges afforded to EVERYONE for the sole purpose of denying them the ability to exist as an effective organization. Further they have persecuted INDIVIDUALS that were/are deemed as enemies. At the same time those individuals and groups seen as friendly to the administration were basically being free passes to do the exact same things being denied.

Regardless of ones political views, this is just plain wrong, and criminal in intent and action. This cannot be tolerated in a free society. If you see nothing amiss here, imagine that this were being done by the politial powers that you do not care for, and the target of this evil was YOU!! This type of activity has been demonstrated through out history to be the first steps of tyranical governments.

This is not a minor matter, and in no way can be justified or defended. The damages done here already are horrendous. Some specualte that this may have effected the most recent election outcome, but that is really just speculation, however the fact that it is even possible that could be the case should chill you to the bones.

WE should all be afraid, very afraid.[color=red

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Re: IRS Scandal
« Reply #9 on: May 22, 2013, 08:58:54 pm »
i don't get what is so wrong with the irs looking more closely  at groups whose main belief is they should not have to pay taxes. the government looks at terror groups who want to kill people, police look into gangs who want to commit crimes, there is nothing wrong with looking into any group who say if they could they would break the law. also how can anyone say this political when the woman who was in charge is a republican appointed by george bush. if your job is to enforce the law it is easier to do that by looking it the people who say they want to break it.

This line of thinking scares me to death! Maybe this is due to lack of knowledge of just what has happened here. This is NOT a case of people trying to avoid paying taxes unduly. This is a case of the administration using the power of a government agency to persecute those groups and INDIVIDUALS they deem to be enemies. In this case denying the groups the exact same rights and privileges afforded to EVERYONE for the sole purpose of denying them the ability to exist as an effective organization. Further they have persecuted INDIVIDUALS that were/are deemed as enemies. At the same time those individuals and groups seen as friendly to the administration were basically being free passes to do the exact same things being denied.

Regardless of ones political views, this is just plain wrong, and criminal in intent and action. This cannot be tolerated in a free society. If you see nothing amiss here, imagine that this were being done by the politial powers that you do not care for, and the target of this evil was YOU!! This type of activity has been demonstrated through out history to be the first steps of tyranical governments.

This is not a minor matter, and in no way can be justified or defended. The damages done here already are horrendous. Some specualte that this may have effected the most recent election outcome, but that is really just speculation, however the fact that it is even possible that could be the case should chill you to the bones.

WE should all be afraid, very afraid.[color=red


i think you may have your tinfoil hat on a little to tight. i am more afraid of all these right-wing groups that are trying to sign up for tax exemption just so the can try buy the election or scare people away form voting. do you not care there are hundreds of these groups who all share the same address and we don't know who is funding them? your dislike the president is keep you from seeing is the groups themselves, not the one irs office that give their application a second look. that is the only thing anyone did wrong was to look at the application of rightwing groups a second time, no one was even denied. somewhere in a deep dark corner of hell joe mcarthy is just laughing his *bleep* off
Learn from yesterday, live for today, hope for tomorrow. The important thing is not to stop questioning.-Albert Einstein

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Re: IRS Scandal
« Reply #10 on: May 22, 2013, 09:20:05 pm »
If you check the facts of history, you might discover that although McArthy was very flawed in a lot of ways, he was RIGHT concerning his focus of communitsts becoming entrenched in our federal government.

I have no fear whatsoever of any group or groups organizing and being politically active. That includes them all from Black Panthers to white extremists like the KKK or extreme religious zealots of any stripe. It appears that you are to one that is concerned over people that don't share your thoughts having equal rights in freedom of speech! Just what scares you about that?

Again, if you bother to check the facts, the 'liberals' have been vastly more prolific in these 'groups' than any and all conservative factions have ever thought of being. From the labor unions to demanding US Govt. funding for their pet organizations (Planned Parenthood just to name one of the hundreds) and shaking down individual donors. You care to compare the money spent by George Soros to any ten of conservative donors, be my guest.

Take the time to read up on things, you will find that that there are many different IRS offices and 6 IDENTIFIED individuals in the IRS that most likely are at some point going to be prosecuted for criminal actions. And this investigation has just begun. There will be many more evil doers exposed almost certainly. Care to make a case that Ms. Lerner is just some innocent non-activist? Take a look at her employment history of being rewarded for doing just such activism.

I am not a Republican, nor a Democrat and it makes no difference what I am politically. My comments are in regard to abuse of power and corruption at the highest levels, and sanctioned to be there by duly elected officials and appointees thereof.

My tin hat fits just dandy, obviously far better thand the rose colored glasses and blinders you are adorned with. Geeeez, there is no argument here, just facts that you can accept, deny or ignore. I wish you the best.

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Re: IRS Scandal
« Reply #11 on: May 23, 2013, 11:23:30 am »
It doesn't matter who was being singled out. If this is seen as acceptable, then future administrations can single out who ever they wish.

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Re: IRS Scandal
« Reply #12 on: May 24, 2013, 02:29:12 pm »


i think you may have your tinfoil hat on a little to tight. i am more afraid of all these right-wing groups that are trying to sign up for tax exemption just so the can try buy the election or scare people away form voting. do you not care there are hundreds of these groups who all share the same address and we don't know who is funding them? your dislike the president is keep you from seeing is the groups themselves, not the one irs office that give their application a second look. that is the only thing anyone did wrong was to look at the application of rightwing groups a second time, no one was even denied. somewhere in a deep dark corner of hell joe mcarthy is just laughing his *bleep* off

And there is no problem with left-wing groups forming for the same reasons?

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Re: IRS Scandal
« Reply #13 on: May 24, 2013, 03:30:51 pm »
Everyday this thing grows in scope and scale. There is no one in the USA that is immune from this illegality. Those that think this is just 'innocent' or even good actions by the government are in for a rude awakening. There is NO excuse or justification for ANY administration to use and abuse the powers entrusted to them to quash or deny their political detractors.

It appears quite obvious that this is not the only case of the administrations abuse of power using federal agencies to quell the oppositon. The EPA in now in the crosshairs along with others.

I can't see even the most ardent administration apologist standing up for this criminal activity. If they want totalatarian govenrment, there are many nations that they can move to and leave the USA alone.

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Re: IRS Scandal
« Reply #14 on: May 24, 2013, 05:15:18 pm »
Informative. Thanks!

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