Gay Marriage

[kellz6ug]

I'm all for people having the right to right to choose their life decisions. However, I personally do not believe in gay marriage or relationships. I am a christian and gay relations goes against my religious beliefs. Some people try to twist the Bible into saying what they want it to but the bottom line according to the Bible is gay relations are wrong and looked down upon. So again, people have the right to make their own choices but with those choices they have to deal with consequences either here or after death.

[Glenda782]

I might be stepping out of line because i am a christian i do not believe in gays or gay marriages  God does love everyone but he did not intend for us to marry the same sex. that is why he created Adam and Eve and you are not suppose to judge i don't stand in any ones way if they believe that but i read the bible and it tells me that it is wrong so i can't believe in it.

[ecominvest]

Marriage should be between a man and a woman. Period.

[mhykee1986]

marriage is for two people who want to spend the rest of their lives together out of love.  if it means same sex marriage, so be it.  it's their happiness and their lives.

[bitcasso]

Some people say that they were born gay.  So they want us to believe that as a species some of us have developed into a type of creature that would guarantee its own extinction, as same sex couples cant reproduce.  Nature doesnt work this way, it evolves to ensure its survival.  So in my opinion we should treat it as a disease and be looking for the cure for it.

[viva05]

AM Straight, but people do what they want to do but again God made male and female not male and male or female and female but male and female only.

[liljp617]

Some people say that they were born gay.  So they want us to believe that as a species some of us have developed into a type of creature that would guarantee its own extinction, as same sex couples cant reproduce.  Nature doesnt work this way, it evolves to ensure its survival.  So in my opinion we should treat it as a disease and be looking for the cure for it.

Nature does not have a mind nor end product it's trying to reach.  Evolution does not have a mind nor end product it's trying to reach.  Mutations in DNA do not occur to ensure survival; in fact the overwhelming majority of mutations are harmful or are not necessarily beneficial at all (cystic fibrosis, autism, Huntington's, sickle cell disease to someone who is no longer living in malaria infested regions, and so on).

Even so, you assume nature isn't working as it should...

Not to say I'm an avid proponent of this overall view but let's throw it out just because:

The human population is clearly oversized and it hinders our survival and existence in numerous ways.  We've seen our carrying capacity and stepped miles and miles beyond it through our ability to manipulate and advance technologically.  Our overpopulation leads directly to starvation, poverty, death, destruction, etc. on a daily basis.  Perhaps our species has developed in order to combat this and stop the rise in population/having offspring.


Regardless, even if it's not a genetic predisposition, sexual orientation is not some point decision or choice.  There are dozens upon dozens of factors that go into determining sexual orientation from the very first day of that person's life.  I personally didn't wake up one day and decide to be attracted to females and I can't imagine any man/woman waking up one day and deciding, "hey, I'm going to be attracted to males/females and join one of the most despised, discriminated groups throughout history and in the present."

[liljp617]

I'm all for people having the right to right to choose their life decisions. However, I personally do not believe in gay marriage or relationships. I am a christian and gay relations goes against my religious beliefs. Some people try to twist the Bible into saying what they want it to but the bottom line according to the Bible is gay relations are wrong and looked down upon. So again, people have the right to make their own choices but with those choices they have to deal with consequences either here or after death.

I've asked a few people with your same views in this thread so I'll just repeat my earlier question(s):

If you feel the judgment of homosexuality found in the Bible holds infallible truths and that you must adhere to those Biblical statements made on homosexuality, why don't you avidly uphold any number of other statements made in the Bible? Such as (and again, repeating what I said earlier):

1)  Stone disobedient children
2)  If a man rapes a woman, the man must pay the woman's father 50 silver pieces and then marry the woman because he violated her (and thus, the victim must marry her attacker)
3)  Slavery is no big deal
4)  A woman who is not a virgin on her wedding night should be stoned
5)  Eating shellfish is an abomination
6)  Wearing wool-blended clothing is wrong
7)  Deport any male and female who have sex while the female is on her period

The list literally goes on and on...

I can only assume you don't support stoning children of any kind, slavery, etc.  Why do you feel fine going against the "word of God" on these moral issues, but feel it is 100% wrong to go against the moral statements made on homosexuality?  What makes the seven things (and it could easily be more) listed above any less infallible than the statements made on homosexuality in the Bible?

[liljp617]

Marriage should be between a man and a woman. Period.

Thank you.  Your deep critical thought into the subject is astounding on many levels.  You must be a scholar of some nature?

[jester2dr]

Marriage should be between a man and a woman. Period.

Thank you.  Your deep critical thought into the subject is astounding on many levels.  You must be a scholar of some nature?

sniff..... snifff...... snifffffff........ yep that's sarcasm i smell!!!!!


and from liljp..... who would of thought......... 

[liljp617]

Sorry, I don't have respect for someone who writes one sentence that adds absolutely nothing to the discussion...especially on a forum made precisely for discussion.  If you want your opinion to be taken seriously, add a little substance and use those little neurons that are firing constantly to put a bit of thought into the subject.  Otherwise, your opinion is baseless and could be said by a 1st grader.

[jester2dr]

Sorry, I don't have respect for someone who writes one sentence that adds absolutely nothing to the discussion...especially on a forum made precisely for discussion.  If you want your opinion to be taken seriously, add a little substance and use those little neurons that are firing constantly to put a bit of thought into the subject.  Otherwise, your opinion is baseless and could be said by a 1st grader.

i know... you seem to be very passionate about this subject....... and have spent alot of time frustrated with others.... 

[rks1229_2008]

  :male:This isn't 1940, it's 2009 and that means that everyone should have the right to be just as miserable as those who are straight.  I guess my point is if they're happy and in love who gives a crap.  They should get to be together too.

[klkwid]

I'm all for equal rights for gay couples-I think that's perfectly fine.  Using the term "marriage", though, isn't appropriate.  I don't think it's that big of a deal!  What's the matter with using the term "civil union"?  Or anything else-anything by marriage!!  I'm sick of having to cater to everyone else's feelings because they want to change things.  What about the conservative people's feelings?

[liljp617]

I'm all for equal rights for gay couples-I think that's perfectly fine.  Using the term "marriage", though, isn't appropriate.  I don't think it's that big of a deal!  What's the matter with using the term "civil union"?  Or anything else-anything by marriage!!  I'm sick of having to cater to everyone else's feelings because they want to change things.  What about the conservative people's feelings?

I believe we're celebrating the 55th anniversary of Brown v. Board of Education.  I don't think it's a big deal for marriage to be a universal word having no relation to gender...is that view as legitimate as you not thinking it's a big deal to use a different term?

There's another big deal, however.  And that big deal is that many people who oppose same sex marriages oppose any form of union that promotes anything except the "traditional family model."  They oppose homosexuality and they oppose any promotion of homosexuality.

You're not catering to everyone's feelings at the moment, either.  The people who are being barred from the liberty of getting married are the one's catering to people's feelings...discriminatory, oppressive feelings at that.