Gay Marriage

[PMZ908]

 gay marriage??  thats so gay

[cowgirlx]

Does anyone else think that this topic has ran it's course and has crossed over to boring?

[djdiggz]

there is no way someone is going to convince a gay person , a thief , a murderer , or even a straight person that is an adulterer, show them their wrong  ,because they will find everything /argument to say that what  they are doing is right.

why because the book (the bible) that has been here for thousand of years , that we actually live by but dont realize is not believed by many. (bible actually shows all these are wrong)

so this leaves us with the scientific part of things...................... and even this shows that it is wrong . you dont even have to know the deep biological aspect of things just the surface.  it goes beyond the laws of nature ...has said before.

but to back up the argument of the strong sexual connection between the same sex, it is believed that there is a chemical imbalance in these individuals,so it not entirely their fault.   

[liljp617]

there is no way someone is going to convince a gay person , a thief , a murderer , or even a straight person that is an adulterer, show them their wrong  ,because they will find everything /argument to say that what  they are doing is right.

Please, never again say anything on the topic if you're going to equate homosexuality with murder, stealing, or any other capital offense.  That's flat out ridiculous and if your neurons were moving, you'd realize that.

why because the book (the bible) that has been here for thousand of years , that we actually live by but dont realize is not believed by many. (bible actually shows all these are wrong)

There are 4.6 billion people in the world who do not uphold your book, obviously do not live by your book, do not care about your book, and certainly do not believe in your book.  Over 2/3 of the world does not care about your book.

so this leaves us with the scientific part of things...................... and even this shows that it is wrong . you dont even have to know the deep biological aspect of things just the surface.  it goes beyond the laws of nature ...has said before.

Practice of homosexuality has been documented in nature in 1,500 species, ranging from invertebrates to apes.

but to back up the argument of the strong sexual connection between the same sex, it is believed that there is a chemical imbalance in these individuals,so it not entirely their fault.

I have a hard time taking anything you say on anything related to science seriously given the blatant lack of research and obvious lack of critical thought on the subject.

[LittleDebbieG]

absolutely agree. My God is a loving God... don't know who all the haters are looking up to? I'll say it again - you don't have to like or agree with how other people live their lives, just - LIVE and let LIVE! You can go on hating and spend your time and energy doing so but, you have no right to impose your views on others or make them miserable. You so completely believe that your God is one of judgement, well then, leave the judging up to him!

A round of applause for you.

If we could read it in Hebrew I’m sure we would find many topics much easier to understand.

I can actually say that I have. T'was raised a Cashew (Catholic mother, Jewish Father).

The version I am more apt to quote is the New International Version. I've also read a study done on the Greek Version (which many later translations come from) of the Bible in terms of homosexuality. It was quite interesting.


But back to topic:

The Bible (and religion, in general) cannot be used as reasoning for laws. So, aside from religious reasons, is there really any reason why homosexuals cannot be as miserable as the rest of us married folk?

[viva05]

I really don't think it is right but, people have there own way of like an person I like mens not womens but, we live our life it don't really bother me my life is straight not gay so do what you what to do we all have to go to God for ourselfs so  that is it with me.

[discardedheart]

Those of us that believe in the bible will never feel that gay marriage is right, and those that don't believe will always think that it is okay.  There will never be an end to this conversation.

ahh, how true this is..

[liljp617]

No, it's blatantly false. 

There are a multitude of Christian churches, organizations, etc. that do not oppress homosexuality and do not oppose gay marriage.  Many of whom have marched alongside gay rights activists and have stated they would gladly marry a same sex couple.

On the other side, there are billions of people in the world who do not believe in the Bible (4.6 approximately), and I would venture to say a large percentage of them oppose homosexuality and/or gay marriage either for cultural reasons or other religious reasons.

The idea that one can't think rationally and in a modern sense on any issue simply because that person believes in a book of outdated principles and ideals is nonsense; many people do believe in the Bible and are perfectly content with homosexuality and gay marriage.  The idea that anyone who doesn't believe in the Bible automatically feels fine with homosexuality and gay marriage is also nonsense; many people don't believe in the Bible and do not support homosexuality or gay marriage.

[ducky74]

All for it.  If you love someone, why shouldn't you be able to marry them?

SO TRUE AND TOTALLY AGREE!!!

[discardedheart]

No, it's blatantly false. 

There are a multitude of Christian churches, organizations, etc. that do not oppress homosexuality and do not oppose gay marriage.  Many of whom have marched alongside gay rights activists and have stated they would gladly marry a same sex couple.

On the other side, there are billions of people in the world who do not believe in the Bible (4.6 approximately), and I would venture to say a large percentage of them oppose homosexuality and/or gay marriage either for cultural reasons or other religious reasons.

The idea that one can't think rationally and in a modern sense on any issue simply because that person believes in a book of outdated principles and ideals is nonsense; many people do believe in the Bible and are perfectly content with homosexuality and gay marriage.  The idea that anyone who doesn't believe in the Bible automatically feels fine with homosexuality and gay marriage is also nonsense; many people don't believe in the Bible and do not support homosexuality or gay marriage.

do you honestly think it does you ANY good to bother with yet another rant about how "irrational" and "illogical" my thinking and views are? get over it, man. i'm not trying to debate with you. quite frankly, i don't care what you have to say about it. i'm sure i'm not the only person you annoy.

have a nice evening

[PMZ908]

its so gay

[liljp617]

No, it's blatantly false. 

There are a multitude of Christian churches, organizations, etc. that do not oppress homosexuality and do not oppose gay marriage.  Many of whom have marched alongside gay rights activists and have stated they would gladly marry a same sex couple.

On the other side, there are billions of people in the world who do not believe in the Bible (4.6 approximately), and I would venture to say a large percentage of them oppose homosexuality and/or gay marriage either for cultural reasons or other religious reasons.

The idea that one can't think rationally and in a modern sense on any issue simply because that person believes in a book of outdated principles and ideals is nonsense; many people do believe in the Bible and are perfectly content with homosexuality and gay marriage.  The idea that anyone who doesn't believe in the Bible automatically feels fine with homosexuality and gay marriage is also nonsense; many people don't believe in the Bible and do not support homosexuality or gay marriage.

do you honestly think it does you ANY good to bother with yet another rant about how "irrational" and "illogical" my thinking and views are? get over it, man. i'm not trying to debate with you. quite frankly, i don't care what you have to say about it. i'm sure i'm not the only person you annoy.

have a nice evening

Have fun ignoring the rest of the post and the entire point of the post.  To be expected? Certainly.  Most of you all always hang on one word or one sentence if you can't find disagreement with the whole response.  It's called a red herring and strawman.

[mlbevins]

No, it's blatantly false. 

There are a multitude of Christian churches, organizations, etc. that do not oppress homosexuality and do not oppose gay marriage.  Many of whom have marched alongside gay rights activists and have stated they would gladly marry a same sex couple.

On the other side, there are billions of people in the world who do not believe in the Bible (4.6 approximately), and I would venture to say a large percentage of them oppose homosexuality and/or gay marriage either for cultural reasons or other religious reasons.

The idea that one can't think rationally and in a modern sense on any issue simply because that person believes in a book of outdated principles and ideals is nonsense; many people do believe in the Bible and are perfectly content with homosexuality and gay marriage.  The idea that anyone who doesn't believe in the Bible automatically feels fine with homosexuality and gay marriage is also nonsense; many people don't believe in the Bible and do not support homosexuality or gay marriage.

do you honestly think it does you ANY good to bother with yet another rant about how "irrational" and "illogical" my thinking and views are? get over it, man. i'm not trying to debate with you. quite frankly, i don't care what you have to say about it. i'm sure i'm not the only person you annoy.

have a nice evening

Have fun ignoring the rest of the post and the entire point of the post.  To be expected? Certainly.  Most of you all always hang on one word or one sentence if you can't find disagreement with the whole response.  It's called a red herring and strawman.

What is the point of adding anything else when you plainly do not care how we feel and believe.  You are never going to convence us that your veiws are correct.

[firefly001]

Aahh still at it I see, "a dog with a bone". Agree to disagree and let it rest. We all have opinions, and we have the right to have them and stand by them. There are more urgent matters to discuss in our present time other than gay marriage/relationships. So kiss and make up and lets move on. Okay? 

[liljp617]

No, it's blatantly false. 

There are a multitude of Christian churches, organizations, etc. that do not oppress homosexuality and do not oppose gay marriage.  Many of whom have marched alongside gay rights activists and have stated they would gladly marry a same sex couple.

On the other side, there are billions of people in the world who do not believe in the Bible (4.6 approximately), and I would venture to say a large percentage of them oppose homosexuality and/or gay marriage either for cultural reasons or other religious reasons.

The idea that one can't think rationally and in a modern sense on any issue simply because that person believes in a book of outdated principles and ideals is nonsense; many people do believe in the Bible and are perfectly content with homosexuality and gay marriage.  The idea that anyone who doesn't believe in the Bible automatically feels fine with homosexuality and gay marriage is also nonsense; many people don't believe in the Bible and do not support homosexuality or gay marriage.

do you honestly think it does you ANY good to bother with yet another rant about how "irrational" and "illogical" my thinking and views are? get over it, man. i'm not trying to debate with you. quite frankly, i don't care what you have to say about it. i'm sure i'm not the only person you annoy.

have a nice evening

Have fun ignoring the rest of the post and the entire point of the post.  To be expected? Certainly.  Most of you all always hang on one word or one sentence if you can't find disagreement with the whole response.  It's called a red herring and strawman.

What is the point of adding anything else when you plainly do not care how we feel and believe.  You are never going to convence us that your veiws are correct.

What was said was false, clearly.

This

Those of us that believe in the bible will never feel that gay marriage is right, and those that don't believe will always think that it is okay.  There will never be an end to this conversation.

is not true.  She said it was.

It is not true because there are very clear examples everywhere that it does not hold up in reality. 

You cannot get hung up on three or four words you dislike in an entire post and ignore everything.  That's precisely what she did.  Again, it's a red herring.


You're right, I don't care what you believe.  Believe whatever you wish...I don't care if somebody believes they're king of the world.  I don't care if a person is xenophobic, homophobic, racist, prejudice in any fashion, etc. (I'm not saying you are...).  That's all fine and dandy if that's how they wish to live their life. But don't bring it into public and expect not to get any backlash from people pointing out the inhumanity and lack of civility.  Private beliefs are not of interest to most people UNTIL that belief is used as reasoning and justification to bar rights and freedoms from others.  There's a line.  At that point, the line is crossed and it should and will be met with opposition.