Please Sign This Petition To Keep Tax Dollars From Funding Abortions (Murder)

[dcrotteau]

It's a woman's right to choose.  I also don't think you should put petitions on here.  Just my opinion.

[southernhorizons]

I would not get an abortion if faced with an unplanned pregnancy, but having said that, I don't judge those who choose to have an abortion. I'd rather they have the abortion and not bring another child that may end up on welfare and/or jail. The earth is already at maximum capacity and there will be no resources available by the time we are in the year 2050. If China and India consumed electricity, food, and various other resources the way Americans do, we will see a depletion of resources at an alarming rate. There are many ways to prevent pregnancy so it really is incomprehensible people still have unplanned pregnancies. It is utter irresponsibility to not take precautionary steps. I believe in the morning after pill and I hope the government provides it to women who cannot afford it because it's cheaper than supporting another human being. In response to the main topic of this post, my answer is the tax dollars that pay for the abortion are minimal compared to the tax dollars that will have to be used to support a child and the future children that child produces when it grows up and so forth and so on. People do foolish things. I have a vision that will never come to pass about a society in which the government requires a license to have sex in the same way you need one to drive. If you are caught, you pay the consequence (jail time and/or fine). Two types of licenses would be available one to have sex to procreate and another for sex for enjoyment. You can apply for one of the licenses at age 18. Sex under 18 would be illegal. Sex to procreate license would require a person to pass rigid psychological, financial, and physical evaluations to ensure they are fit to parent. If they fail, automatic sterilization if they want to have the sex for enjoyment license. Rapists and child molesters would get automatic death sentences if there is irrefutable evidence of the crimes (excessive victims with matching DNA evidence, video...etc) Those with just one conviction get life without the possibility of parole. In order to cut down costs, arrangements would be made with another country that would house them for a cheaper rate. Mexico comes to mind as a way to outsource correctional facilities. Victims of rape would be given a choice to either have an abortion or the state would support the child and the child's future education. Sterilizing those who have no business having children would reduce government costs and allow the state to subsidize the children conceived through rape. Victims of rape should never be denied the right to abort because they did not ask for that to happen to them. This population control through sterilization won't come to pass until we reach a critical level in population, then the government will have no choice. 

Population control is not at all compatible with a free country. You might want to consider moving to China or some other country that does that. As for an abortion being cheaper than supporting the kid for life afterwards, we shouldn't be supporting them through welfare either. Like I said, nowhere in the constitution is it stated that the role of government is to be a welfare agency. Taxing people to give that money to other people is legalized theft. If people can't afford to have kids, they should be doing something more constructive than sleeping together, like getting a job. I shouldn't have to curb my pleasures and slave away to support the consequences of other people's pleasures. I work hard for my living, and I don't relish having the government steal my hard-earned money that I worked for.

[kristalie]

 

As far as I've ever heard, abortions are paid for by the person getting them. Unless medically necessary, I don't think they ever would be covered by insurance.

[teamoahero]

when you decide to have a baby its your responsibility nomone will care s to what he/she is eating wearing or leaving. most pro- life just talk but they are never there to help those that strugle to support their family after the decision to have the kids. you have to start first with those that can't afford to support the family. education helps a big time. not just talk and match for life. talk and match for survival.

[clickers]

Live and let live!

[lrharting]

You know, if all this country had was a good health care system and educational system to inform people of how their bodies work then abortion, orphanages, child psychologists, cpa, all of this stuff wouldn't be needed.  If women were actually allowed to make choices on whether or not they wanted a baby and had access to prevention (let's face it condoms aren't 100% fool proof for anyone) and weren't made to feel like dirty sluts because they are on the pill or like freaks of nature because they don't want a baby then maybe this wouldn't be needed.  Do you have a petition for womens rights to reproductive health care that I could sign? I can get behind that with a clear conscience.

I'm not for abortion because I don't think it should be used as a form of contraception.  I think it's really an awful choice when there are better alternatives. But if a woman does have something happen, and really doesn't want a baby then she should be able to choose what she wants to do without being judged and making a hard decision for her even harder.

[Flackle]

Could we instead sign a petition banning the government from using tax payer money to murder living, breathing, fully-functioning human beings (both adults and children, soldiers and pedestrians alike)? Would that be at all possible? A huge portion of our taxes goes to war.

You're worried about babies that haven't even been born yet, while we are still killing living individuals and groups of people? Haven't you ever herd of the word prioritize.

[queenofnines]

Population control is not at all compatible with a free country. You might want to consider moving to China or some other country that does that.

It doesn't matter if you think it is "compatible" with a free country. Life is going to get very, very miserable for us all the more the world's population spirals out of control. The earth isn't this land of milk and honey with everlasting resources, and it is incredibly glib of you to act otherwise. Also, get your facts straight about China: only 35 percent of the population is subject to the policy you speak of, and couples CAN have more than one child if they pay for it. Why in the world would you think it's a bad idea to have population control on a country that has over a billion people?!

nowhere in the constitution is it stated that the role of government is to be a welfare agency. Taxing people to give that money to other people is legalized theft.

I agree with you somewhat there. I don't like how so much money goes to deadbeats that exploit the system. However, some form of these programs DOES need to exist; lots of good people fall on hard times and deserve temporary help.

If people can't afford to have kids, they should be doing something more constructive than sleeping together, like getting a job.

That's a pipe dream, as you eventually learn that so many humans are stupider than you can even conceive. At least with abortion, you're preventing a child being raised by an unfit parent and possibly turning into another burden on society when he or she grows up.

[queenofnines]

You know, if all this country had was a good health care system and educational system to inform people of how their bodies work then abortion, orphanages, child psychologists, cpa, all of this stuff wouldn't be needed.  If women were actually allowed to make choices on whether or not they wanted a baby and had access to prevention (let's face it condoms aren't 100% fool proof for anyone) and weren't made to feel like dirty sluts because they are on the pill or like freaks of nature because they don't want a baby then maybe this wouldn't be needed.  Do you have a petition for womens rights to reproductive health care that I could sign? I can get behind that with a clear conscience.

I'm not for abortion because I don't think it should be used as a form of contraception.  I think it's really an awful choice when there are better alternatives. But if a woman does have something happen, and really doesn't want a baby then she should be able to choose what she wants to do without being judged and making a hard decision for her even harder.

Brilliant post.

I haven't encountered "feeling like a dirty s l u t" all the years I was on the Pill, but I have been made to feel like a "freak of nature" for not wanting kids. I even had a doctor once ask if she could write me a prescription for prenatal vitamins...when I was there to REFILL my birth control prescription! I told her I didn't want kids, and she "knowingly" replied, "Oh, you will." Uggggggggghhhhh

I wanted to say, "B----, no I won't! And even if I did hit my head and have a sudden personality change causing me to want kids someday, it's still very rude of you to be all self righteous and assume that I'll follow the status quo. You don't know me at all!"

I've also had numerous doctors try to talk me out of getting an IUD. Using scare tactics and crap, like "If you WERE to get pregnant, it would be in your tubes and the we'd have to operate" or "It'll really, really hurt to insert and probably pierce your uterus since you've never had a mini-me come out of your hoo-ha."

[lrharting]

You know, if all this country had was a good health care system and educational system to inform people of how their bodies work then abortion, orphanages, child psychologists, cpa, all of this stuff wouldn't be needed.  If women were actually allowed to make choices on whether or not they wanted a baby and had access to prevention (let's face it condoms aren't 100% fool proof for anyone) and weren't made to feel like dirty sluts because they are on the pill or like freaks of nature because they don't want a baby then maybe this wouldn't be needed.  Do you have a petition for womens rights to reproductive health care that I could sign? I can get behind that with a clear conscience.

I'm not for abortion because I don't think it should be used as a form of contraception.  I think it's really an awful choice when there are better alternatives. But if a woman does have something happen, and really doesn't want a baby then she should be able to choose what she wants to do without being judged and making a hard decision for her even harder.

Brilliant post.

I haven't encountered "feeling like a dirty s l u t" all the years I was on the Pill, but I have been made to feel like a "freak of nature" for not wanting kids. I even had a doctor once ask if she could write me a prescription for prenatal vitamins...when I was there to REFILL my birth control prescription! I told her I didn't want kids, and she "knowingly" replied, "Oh, you will." Uggggggggghhhhh

I wanted to say, "B----, no I won't! And even if I did hit my head and have a sudden personality change causing me to want kids someday, it's still very rude of you to be all self righteous and assume that I'll follow the status quo. You don't know me at all!"

I've also had numerous doctors try to talk me out of getting an IUD. Using scare tactics and crap, like "If you WERE to get pregnant, it would be in your tubes and the we'd have to operate" or "It'll really, really hurt to insert and probably pierce your uterus since you've never had a mini-me come out of your hoo-ha."

Oh man that is wrong on so many levels.  Here you are trying to prevent something you KNOW you don't want and are being talked out of it by people who 'think' you'll change your mind.  "You don't know me."  Exactly.  I'd like to have a Dr. talk to me like that, I won't hold back.  And as far as the "You'll change your mind," bit, I thought maybe as I got older I would.  Here I am 15 days from being 31 and I still have yet to hear the proverbial 'biological clock' tick once.  When exactly was I going to change my mind again?

[Screwedupclick4life337]

I think if you don't  want a child let someone  that really  wants one to adopt  it

[lrharting]

I think if you don't  want a child let someone  that really  wants one to adopt  it

I don't think I would want to carry a child for 9 months and then give it up.  That's a lot of work and wear and tear on your body for something you don't even want in the first place.  I agree, it's definitely a better option than abortion, but that's just my preference really.

[southernhorizons]

Population control is not at all compatible with a free country. You might want to consider moving to China or some other country that does that.

It doesn't matter if you think it is "compatible" with a free country. Life is going to get very, very miserable for us all the more the world's population spirals out of control. The earth isn't this land of milk and honey with everlasting resources, and it is incredibly glib of you to act otherwise. Also, get your facts straight about China: only 35 percent of the population is subject to the policy you speak of, and couples CAN have more than one child if they pay for it. Why in the world would you think it's a bad idea to have population control on a country that has over a billion people?!

Why in the world would you want to live in a dictatorship where the government decides who gets to live? My facts are straight about China: it is a Communist country, and they do practice population control. I never said 100% of the population there did. Don't worry, Obama believes in population control, and his "science czar" is a prominent eugenicist, who has very similar plans to those of Hitler. So you'll be getting all the population control that you want, soon.

[tuscarorarain]

Sorry I havent rechecked this post. I usually just like to give the information I get in my emails from the sites I support. For those who say abortion is not murder you are wrong. It has been proven that an unborn child at any stage feels pain and that during most abortions the head is actually removed from the body. A human living being is killed. There is no way to excuse murder. I had a child named Ruby out of a bad situation is all I will say and I kept her and she is a tremendious blessing in my life. When I see her I do not see her biological dad. Instead I see her as the child of myself and my husband. In the cuase of the life of the mother I still say no. People know what they are doing when a child is conceived. There are no accidents when it comes to that. There is no excuse. I know a lot of people do abortions for different reasons and I do not parade around trying to hurt their feelings, but they have commited a horrible act. I choose to work with women in our society who have had abortions or are considering them to let them see what is actually happening. Go to youtube and watch videos of live abortions and you will see it for yourself. A heartbeat is present in the child and their is brain activity. All components of life exist. Causing that life to cease is murder. I do thank God that the spirit of these children go to Him. Using federal tax dollars is telling children its ok. Truth is not the majority of public opinion, but the difference between right and wrong.

[tuscarorarain]

Question??? You never posted on threads for gay marriage or for if your child is gay what would you do. I'm curious that you don't have a christian answer for that or you choose battles. God always said in the Bible beware of false prophets and people who disguise them self but are really the DEVIL. That last part I put in myself. I noticed a person who was so well spoken of words, then said I'm a product of a mental situation to a person who is now all about the Gov. is after you. I think  people disguise their agenda as to get their propaganda in. I think that is why a good guy is not here now because of people trying to benefit their cause. All he did was relate what was his opinion, same as others. SHAME.

My brother is a homosexual. I told him it was wrong, but that he has my shoulder to cry on whenever he needs it. We have a great relationship. What he does affects himself. He is doing this to his own life only. When a person has an abortion they are murdering another person. Its not their body. Its the life of another individual inside of them.