Forums becoming unbelievable

[falcon9]

It has been my observation Flackle that you do not  

Nice try at at 'divide & conquer' but, I'm betting "Flackle" is more intelligent than your 'faint praise' gives them cfredit for.  Are you truly that desparate to attempt such a desparation tactic?  Such tactics haven't worked for several religious adherents so far ....

List of xtian-instigated calling-out threads locked/removed by Admin/moderators:

"THE FINAL SOLUTION TO F9‏"
"Re: Kohler: Original posters' thread titles are being changed w/in threads"
"This would be hell for me"
"okay falcon9 I buddy I gotta ask"
"pray for Falcon9"
"Sorry,but i have to ask this"
"already in love=)"
"trollings people on the internet..."
"Hey Falcon"

[jcribb16]

... making false claims (lies) ...

I'm already aware of what you xtians do as those false claims and lies are archived.

List of xtian-instigated calling-out threads locked/removed by Admin/moderators:

"THE FINAL SOLUTION TO F9‏"
"Re: Kohler: Original posters' thread titles are being changed w/in threads"
"This would be hell for me"
"okay falcon9 I buddy I gotta ask"
"pray for Falcon9"
"Sorry,but i have to ask this"
"already in love=)"
"trollings people on the internet..."
"Hey Falcon"

I did none of those, so stop changing the subject around and taking your accountability away from your own words I am challenging you on.  

Plus, you get away with no "call out" threads, because you do all of your "call outs" against Christians right within their own threads.  Then you gloat when people get fed up and frustrated, and get threads locked because they did call you out.  

You provoke and then sit back and wait for the trouble to happen.  You are an agitator, towards only believers, and enjoy trying to get them to respond in such a way as to get them in trouble - yet you are the provoker.  

You can deny until you're blue in the face - everyone you provoke knows the truth - and you just relish and enjoy the attention.  All it does it make you look all the more forlorn, unhappy, and dis-satisfied enough to take it out on believers because you can't stand that they are allowed to post "religious" threads in this forum.  

You might want to use your military discipline and grow up, and find some threads that make you all "fuzzy happy" inside.  Oh, wait!  That's right you don't like to be told or suggested what to do (even though you do it) and have outright said you will not obey "fundies."  Fine, whatever, but I'll leave the words there because I'm not in the mood to go back and delete them out.  

Just to note something here - All of this is really just giving you the attention you so crave and need - especially since you WILL have to write the last word, to your advantage, I might add.  So have at and enjoy - we know you will definitely enjoy berating this post, as well.  Poor guy...

[remediagirl]

[debidoo]

  Personally, I am on fusioncash to make money to help my family and I sure wouldn't let some trauma drama on the forums cheat me out of $3 per month.  I find that the ignore option allows me to enjoy the forum posting and eliminates the upsetment of reading someone else's  lol well anyway best of luck to all those members who have joined the ignore club which reduces the number of people bothered by some people who seem to thrive on bothering others. 

[jcribb16]

A majority of the posts from people bashing other people about their beliefs are done for the sole purpose of making people mad and causing an uproar.  That is why I strongly suggest using the IGNORE button.  These people seem to spend an inordinate amount of time looking for places they can pontificate about the agenda they are pushing.  If we truly ignore them, they will have no way to distribute their hate.  It will probably drive them crazy.  CHIRP

This is absolutely 100% wrong. The debate over religion is a very important one, and one that should be expressed more often. I am not here to purposefully make religious adherents mad. I am here to refute their opinions by expressing my own. If they can be allowed to share their ideas, then I should be allowed to share my dissenting one. What you are proposing is that people ignore that which they do not agree with, then as a result the entire idea of expanding your horizons and growing as a human being are thrown out the window.

If we where to follow your philosophy, we would all be stuck in our own little world and no problems of this world would be solved.

What many are trying to say is that religion (like you stated) is indeed important to discuss and/or debate about.  No one has an issue with that.  

The issue has to do with a certain poster that refuses to be tolerant enough to rationally discuss anything religious, because he deems faith in God "irrational" and "delusional," as well as anything said from believers to be "specious," "blind faith," "no evidence," and I could keep going on.

 No one can discuss anything reasonably nor rationally with someone like that.  At least you give points about things, and I've disagreed with you on some, but you still show the attempt of trying to discuss things without constantly throwing those listed words above back in the believer's face, refusing to accept anything offered from them to talk about.  

That's the concerning issue and also includes him following believers in multiple threads, saying the same things over and over, with facetiousness.  Thank you for wanting to try and discuss things - it's very much appreciated and shows your maturity at knowing that while we are on opposite ends of this "religion discussion," everyone has the right to believe or dis-believe, and actually talk about it as a discussion.  

[falcon9]

... I am challenging you on.  

Since you so often dodge challenges to your specious religious beliefs, yours are being ignored as I choose or, refuted as I choose.

Plus, you get away with no "call out" threads, because you do all of your "call outs" against Christians right within their own threads.  

False.  Obviously, you don't understand what a "calling-out" thread, (as defined by FC staff, not me), consists of.  I have posted no such threads in violation of FC policy whereas several xtians have posted over nine such threads.

You provoke

False.  I've responded to INITIALLY-posted propagandistic religious agitating posts prior made prior to my replies, (which is what makes the xtian propaganda posts the provocations, not the responses).

You are an agitator ...

False.  I've responded to INITIALLY-posted propagandistic religious agitating posts prior made prior to my replies, (which is what makes the xtian propaganda posts the provocations, not the responses).

You can deny until you're ...

I've no need to deny archived evidence which contradicts your specious contentions which you spew on a constant basis.

[jcribb16]

It has been my observation Flackle that you do not  

Nice try at at 'divide & conquer' but, I'm betting "Flackle" is more intelligent than your 'faint praise' gives them cfredit for.  Are you truly that desparate to attempt such a desparation tactic?  Such tactics haven't worked for several religious adherents so far ....

List of xtian-instigated calling-out threads locked/removed by Admin/moderators:

"THE FINAL SOLUTION TO F9‏"
"Re: Kohler: Original posters' thread titles are being changed w/in threads"
"This would be hell for me"
"okay falcon9 I buddy I gotta ask"
"pray for Falcon9"
"Sorry,but i have to ask this"
"already in love=)"
"trollings people on the internet..."
"Hey Falcon"

Oh, stop whining.  He's receiving attention that is complimentary because he does try to listen and challenge, and so you are going to try and influence him to your way of acting?  Poor guy...

[jcribb16]

I don't know where you are finding all of these pics, but I like several of them!  Great quotes with them, too. 

[falcon9]

The issue has to do with a certain poster that refuses to be tolerant enough to rationally discuss anything religious ...

A review of my posts which definitely do rationally challenge irrational suspersitions refutes your false assertion.

No one can discuss anything reasonably nor rationally with someone like that.

Religious adherents have presented no reasonable/rational arguments to support their faith-based contentions after such were requested.  They simply huck-up more specious, (sans evidence), faith-based irrationalities.  Those aren't reasonable or rational on the religious adherents' part.
 

That's the concerning issue and also includes him following believers in multiple threads, saying the same things over and over ...

This is due to the religious adherents starting multiple threads, reposting and requoting the same old religious propaganda and then expecting a different dissenting response.  That's not rational or reasonable either.

[jcribb16]

... I am challenging you on.  

Since you so often dodge challenges to your specious religious beliefs, yours are being ignored as I choose or, refuted as I choose.

Plus, you get away with no "call out" threads, because you do all of your "call outs" against Christians right within their own threads.  

False.  Obviously, you don't understand what a "calling-out" thread, (as defined by FC staff, not me), consists of.  I have posted no such threads in violation of FC policy whereas several xtians have posted over nine such threads.[/color][/b][/i][/u]

You provoke

False.  I've responded to INITIALLY-posted propagandistic religious agitating posts prior made prior to my replies, (which is what makes the xtian propaganda posts the provocations, not the responses).

You are an agitator ...

False.  I've responded to INITIALLY-posted propagandistic religious agitating posts prior made prior to my replies, (which is what makes the xtian propaganda posts the provocations, not the responses).

You can deny until you're ...

I've no need to deny archived evidence which contradicts your specious contentions which you spew on a constant basis.

IN RED ABOVE:  You have a difficult time reading responses sometimes.  I SAID YOU DO NOT DO CALLING OUT THREADS BECAUSE YOU CALL OUT WITHIN THE THREADS BY PROVOKING RESPONSES.  So of course, that's why you haven't had any locked - YOU DIDN'T POST THEM.  I SAID THAT, FALCON9, GO BACK AND READ IT.  You are a piece of work with trying to twist words around.  Guess you couldn't come up with anything better to say, since you know I was right, and so you have to go and try your wee little best to make it look like I didn't say what I did say.  READ POSTS CAREFULLY!!!!!

P.S.  I KNOW EXACTLY WHAT CALLING OUT THREADS ARE, SMART ALEC.

[falcon9]

You have a difficult time reading responses sometimes.  I SAID YOU DO NOT DO CALLING OUT THREADS

Yes, I read your false accusation, (lie), and refuted it in the same post.

BECAUSE YOU CALL OUT WITHIN THE THREADS BY PROVOKING RESPONSES. 

I don't "call-out" within threads either; that's your skewed misconstrued misperception which is rejected on the basis of lack of valid evidcence and your inherent bias.

P.S.  I KNOW EXACTLY WHAT CALLING OUT THREADS ARE, SMART ALEC.

Apparently not if you're conflating a thread title with post content.

List of xtian-instigated calling-out threads locked/removed by Admin/moderators:

"THE FINAL SOLUTION TO F9‏"
"Re: Kohler: Original posters' thread titles are being changed w/in threads"
"This would be hell for me"
"okay falcon9 I buddy I gotta ask"
"pray for Falcon9"
"Sorry,but i have to ask this"
"already in love=)"
"trollings people on the internet..."
"Hey Falcon"

[jcribb16]

You have a difficult time reading responses sometimes.  I SAID YOU DO NOT DO CALLING OUT THREADS

Yes, I read your false accusation, (lie), and refuted it in the same post.

BECAUSE YOU CALL OUT WITHIN THE THREADS BY PROVOKING RESPONSES. 

I don't "call-out" within threads either; that's your skewed misconstrued misperception which is rejected on the basis of lack of valid evidcence and your inherent bias.

P.S.  I KNOW EXACTLY WHAT CALLING OUT THREADS ARE, SMART ALEC.

Apparently not if you're conflating a thread title with post content.

List of xtian-instigated calling-out threads locked/removed by Admin/moderators:

"THE FINAL SOLUTION TO F9‏"
"Re: Kohler: Original posters' thread titles are being changed w/in threads"
"This would be hell for me"
"okay falcon9 I buddy I gotta ask"
"pray for Falcon9"
"Sorry,but i have to ask this"
"already in love=)"
"trollings people on the internet..."
"Hey Falcon"

You are absolutely ridiculous, and can't even stick with your own words, and read my words correctly, without turning and twisting the meanings of them all around.  One good thing about that, is how the posters see what you are doing, too, including the fact everything is archived (LIKE YOU ALWAYS ENJOY BRINGING UP.)  I am not wasting any more effort with you tonight - it's not worth the immaturity you are spouting out.  Enjoy twisting your own words and contexts around so you can debate yourself.  That ought to be interesting, entertaining, and boring, all in one.   

[falcon9]

immaturity  

Your admission is unnecessary, given that your posts are archived and that aspect of them was previously-known.

[skrogman]

Well, I have sat now and carefully (and, yes, prayerfully) read through this post and very greatly appreciate the support.  It is hard to deal with this at such a spiritual time of the year.  I do not see Christmas without Christ.  I should not have to have any reason to doubt or appologize for that which I know from the very core of my being to be true and real.  At this time, I believe a good majority of us are here to buff up a little extra Christmas money and thirty simple posts should be helpful and not hurtful.  I have decided to follow the advice of posters above and do my thirty and enjoy good threads, and then unfortunately maybe then just be done for the month. 

But again, I appreciate the support but did not mean to start the drama all over again.

I have said in the past that I like coming into the forums for many reasons including that the senior members are awesome at sharing the great offers, Kohler's promos, etc.  I need and enjoy that.

Thanks again, guys for food for thought...I feel better about the situation...thanks so much to jcribb, jedijohnny, remediagirl, and all of you wonderful people.  I'll be talkin' to ya soon.

    

[falcon9]

I do not see Christmas without Christ.  

The two were unrelated since the former began with pagan winter solstice rites, (until being 'stolen' by xtians to subsume it as they've done with other cultural practices throughout history).  The latter is the specious cult source of a religious mythology which has no 'basis' other than blind faith, (being bereft of evidence to support the numerous supernatural claims made by the superstition's followers).  Of course, it is as much anyone's option to hold such superstitious religious beliefs as not to.  There is no inherent 'right' to unopposed superstitious religious belief if the 'believer' propagandizes it publically.