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falcon9

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Re: VOTE for Mitt Romney!!
« Reply #15 on: October 26, 2012, 01:58:47 am »
One was the Born Alive infant bill.  From what I gather the bills were about occasions where a fetus would survive an induced labor abortion.  Obama's position was that if a doctor believed that the fetus was viable, save it, otherwise kill it or leave it to die.  That was the law that was already in place.  Bills that that came up on abortion that he voted against included language that he felt was too broad.  Pro-life activists make it out like Obama is for infanticide, which would be career suicide for a politician. 

I see, so not quite as it was mis-characterized in the post challenged.  That was disingenuous of that poster; thank you for clarifying the actual situation.
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« Reply #16 on: October 26, 2012, 02:03:38 am »
Thank you! Thank you! I'll be here all night!
Yes I do believe you have done a good job with feedback. As some would say "you nailed that sucker." I always loved that metaphor, LOL  :thumbsup:

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« Reply #17 on: October 26, 2012, 05:42:57 pm »
So many times people just say. "well I like Obama because he supports abortion and gay marriage." He did pass the bill three times that supported killing babies after they where born healthy and alive. This bill says that after a baby is born you lock him or her in a closet and let him or her starve to death and cry until he or she passes away. 

Name the exact bill by number which says this.  If you cannot, you're an outright liar.

Yes, please name your source.

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Re: VOTE for Mitt Romney!!
« Reply #18 on: October 26, 2012, 05:46:11 pm »
So many times people just say. "well I like Obama because he supports abortion and gay marriage." He did pass the bill three times that supported killing babies after they where born healthy and alive. This bill says that after a baby is born you lock him or her in a closet and let him or her starve to death and cry until he or she passes away.  

Yes, please name your source.

The reference was apparently to an Illinois state bill, (not federal legislation), a 2003 state bill, SB 1082, sought to define the term "born-alive infant" as any infant, even one born as the result of an unsuccessful abortion, that shows vital signs separate from its mother. The bill would have established that infants thus defined were humans with legal rights. It never made it to the floor; it was voted down by the Health and Human Services Committee.
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Re: VOTE for Mitt Romney!!
« Reply #19 on: October 26, 2012, 05:47:48 pm »
He doesn't have the back bone to lead us. He's an elites.

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« Reply #20 on: October 26, 2012, 05:49:40 pm »
Thanks Falcon9 for that great feedback.

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« Reply #21 on: October 26, 2012, 05:50:31 pm »
Thanks Falcon9 for that great feedback.

Yep.
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« Reply #22 on: October 27, 2012, 01:44:16 pm »


A lot is being said in the media about Mitt Romney not being "likable"
 
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No scandals or skeletons in his closet.

(How boring is that?)






Check out how Mitt Romney lied, under oath, in a divorce proceeding to help his friend (the founder of STAPLES) cheat his cancer stricken, ex wife out of money. He deliberately undervalued Staples stock in his sworn testimony and within a few weeks after testifying that the stock was worthless and failing, he and his friend sold their stock holdings to Goldman Sachs and made millions while the ailing ex wife walked away with 1/10 of what the stock was really worth.  So thanks to Mitt Romney, she was left with no money and no insurance.  This is the information that Atty. Gloria Allred is trying to get out to the general public,  especially women, but the ex wife was slapped with a gag order that Atty. Allred cant get lifted, so the national news can't report it.  You can only read about it on news feeds like The Huffington Post, etc.

Maybe there are other skeletons under gag orders too!.....hence, no skeletons!


Can you tell us the date of that publication so we can look up the information you have just given? Thanks a lot.
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Re: VOTE for Mitt Romney!!
« Reply #23 on: October 27, 2012, 02:00:26 pm »
This in the world of learning about your candidate, we call research. Key words and such. Look it up and be informed. To answer it was just in the news of the web so dates are recent. :thumbsup:
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Re: VOTE for Mitt Romney!!
« Reply #24 on: October 27, 2012, 05:31:20 pm »


Check out how Mitt Romney lied, under oath, in a divorce proceeding to help his friend (the founder of STAPLES) cheat his cancer stricken, ex wife out of money. He deliberately undervalued Staples stock in his sworn testimony and within a few weeks after testifying that the stock was worthless and failing, he and his friend sold their stock holdings to Goldman Sachs and made millions while the ailing ex wife walked away with 1/10 of what the stock was really worth.  So thanks to Mitt Romney, she was left with no money and no insurance.  This is the information that Atty. Gloria Allred is trying to get out to the general public,  especially women, but the ex wife was slapped with a gag order that Atty. Allred cant get lifted, so the national news can't report it.  You can only read about it on news feeds like The Huffington Post, etc.

Maybe there are other skeletons under gag orders too!.....hence, no skeletons!


Not only is that inaccurate, it's not even close to the actual story. In 1991, Romney testified about the valuation placed on Staples four years prior during the original divorce settlement in 1987. The claim that Romney devalued the stock is obviously not true as he did not testify on the stock’s value back in 1987. The actual court transcripts from 1991 show that Romney did not perjure himself, nor did he lie or provide shelter for anyone.

The reality of the situation is that the ex-wife made a bad decision by selling most her shares of the stock before the company went public in 1989. Even at that, she still made $592,150 on the sale of the stock, while her remaining shares were still worth $1.8 million after the IPO. Tough to say she was left with no money. 

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Re: VOTE for Mitt Romney!!
« Reply #25 on: October 27, 2012, 07:14:01 pm »
Vote for Mitt!  YOU MUST BE CRAZY!! No want to see anyone SS card or Birth records, we know President Obama is a US citizen no other President had to show or prove that they are an america citizen, IS IT BECAUSE HE IS HALF BLACK??  Come on people!!!!

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Re: VOTE for Mitt Romney!!
« Reply #26 on: October 27, 2012, 07:48:24 pm »
i WILL NOT be voting for romney 100% obama

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Re: VOTE for Mitt Romney!!
« Reply #27 on: October 28, 2012, 10:58:56 am »


A lot is being said in the media about Mitt Romney not being "likable"
 
3.

No scandals or skeletons in his closet.

(How boring is that?)






Check out how Mitt Romney lied, under oath, in a divorce proceeding to help his friend (the founder of STAPLES) cheat his cancer stricken, ex wife out of money. He deliberately undervalued Staples stock in his sworn testimony and within a few weeks after testifying that the stock was worthless and failing, he and his friend sold their stock holdings to Goldman Sachs and made millions while the ailing ex wife walked away with 1/10 of what the stock was really worth.  So thanks to Mitt Romney, she was left with no money and no insurance.  This is the information that Atty. Gloria Allred is trying to get out to the general public,  especially women, but the ex wife was slapped with a gag order that Atty. Allred cant get lifted, so the national news can't report it.  You can only read about it on news feeds like The Huffington Post, etc.

Maybe there are other skeletons under gag orders too!.....hence, no skeletons!


Can you tell us the date of that publication so we can look up the information you have just given? Thanks a lot.


To my knowledge, the documents have not as yet been published.  Court proceedings went on last Thursday Oct. 25 to have the documents unsealed and the gag order lifted off of Maureen Stemberg, the ex wife.  I have been following the story at examiner.com and huffingtonpost.com. Just do a search for this subject dated Oct. 24,25 and you can follow the development.  On Oct. 25, the court granted the request to have the documents unsealed but would not grant the gag order to be lifted and Atty. Allred stated that without the ex wife being granted her request to tell her story, the documents by themselves would not mean much to the general public. When the documents are released to be published I'm sure they will appear in the Boston Globe, they actually initiated the inquiry, then you can decide for yourself and not be swayed by people who want Romney elected no matter what his true character is.  I have a hard time believing that being the astute businessman Romney is suppose to be, he testifies under oath that a Bain Capital company stock, which he knew very well and as successful and huge as Staples became, was a completely worthless flop just four years earlier. By the way....his company, Bain Capital, made millions backing Staples and bragged about it during the Republican convention!

TMZ reported on 10-25:

 
"The ex-wife of one of Mitt Romney's closest advisers says Mitt lied on the witness stand in her divorce about a key asset -- the value of Staples, the company her husband founded -- and as a result she was grossly shortchanged in the property settlement ... this according to an author who helped the ex-wife write her story.

Sadi Ranson says she reviewed the transcripts of the divorce between Staples founder Tom Stemberg and his wife Maureen during the collaboration on the book.  Ranson tells TMZ ... she reviewed boxes and boxes of transcripts and claims Romney testified the Staples stock was a pipe dream because the company was not successful -- something Maureen says was flat-out untrue."

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Re: VOTE for Mitt Romney!!
« Reply #28 on: October 29, 2012, 11:28:15 am »
Gracious, statesmanlike aura.

Looks like every central casting's #1 choice for Commander-in-Chief.

Have you SEEN the weirdo smirk he makes whenever anyone else is talking?! It creeps me out!!

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No scandals or skeletons in his closet.

What about the women in his binders...  :-X

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Can't speak in a fake, southern, "black preacher voice"
when necessary.

Technically, Obama is like an Oreo (half black/half white). And everybody likes Oreos.  ;D That's just the way the cookie crumbles. Surely since he's still half-black, Obama will be able to slamdunk his way into some milk and secure the win.

>> See, I can make nonsensical racist remarks, too! <<

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Represents an America of "yesterday",
where people believed in God, went to Church, didn't screw around,
worked hard, and became a SUCCESS!

1. People still believe in god...unfortunately.
2. People still go to church.
3. People have always "screwed around"; back then it was simply less acceptable to be out with it.
4. People still work hard and/or becomes successes.
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Re: VOTE for Mitt Romney!!
« Reply #29 on: October 30, 2012, 02:46:50 pm »
Vote for Mitt!  YOU MUST BE CRAZY!! No want to see anyone SS card or Birth records, we know President Obama is a US citizen no other President had to show or prove that they are an america citizen, IS IT BECAUSE HE IS HALF BLACK??  Come on people!!!!

You can't be serious with this "racist" rant.  I don't like his WHITE half, either.  As a WHOLE person, I don't look at his COLOR at all.  What I see before me on a daily basis is his TOTAL DISREGARD for this country AND it's LEGAL CITIZENS.  I guess it's true what everyone says... "When there's no other card left to play, just play that race card!"

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